Game Thread: New York Knicks @ Cleveland Cavaliers 7:00 10/29/2017 [Game #5]

rady

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Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, OHMSG7:00 PM EST


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Injury Report

New York KnicksCleveland Cavaliers
Joakim Noah - NBA Suspension (OUT)Isaiah Thomas - Sore right hip (OUT)
-Derrick Rose - Left ankle sprain )QUEST)
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Game Preview

CLEVELAND -- The Cleveland Cavaliers aren't concerned by their slow start and porous defense.

The New York Knicks are thrilled to be headed to Cleveland having won their first game.

The Cavs (3-3) haven't lost to New York since Oct. 30, 2014 -- LeBron James' first game back with the franchise that drafted him -- a span that covers 10 games.

But Cleveland shouldn't get too comfortable by the sight of the Knicks, who visit Quicken Loans Arena on Sunday night. The Cavs had their 17-game winning streak over the Orlando Magic snapped last week on a night where some really ugly bad habits surfaced and haven't gone away since.

The Cavs were blown out Saturday by the New Orleans Pelicans 123-101 for their third loss in four games. All four opponents have scored at least 112 points in that stretch, bombing the Cavs with 3s and burned them in transition.

Coinciding with all of this has been the absence of point guard Derrick Rose, who's been out with a sprained left ankle. Rose is not a great defender, but with him out coach Tyronn Lue has had to jumble his lineup, which led to miscommunication and missed assignments on defense that weren't there when Rose was playing and the Cavs won their first two games.

"A lot of this, if we're missing 3s and missing shots offensively and turning the basketball over, then we can't get back in transition," Lue said in New Orleans. "So, better offense helps with our defense. Because if we're scoring, then we can get back and get set. We just gotta be better.

"Teams are, I seen (New Orleans coach) Alvin Gentry telling 'em run, run, run, play with pace. We've gotta be able to get back, get matched and try to play the same speed that everybody else is playing with."

The Pelicans shot 53.3 percent and drained 13 3-pointers. The Cavs are allowing the most 3s in the NBA.

Rose was supposed to play Saturday but missed his fourth straight game because of a sprained ankle that's still sore. Lue didn't know if Rose would play against the Knicks, his former team.

The Cavs are also without point guard Isaiah Thomas, who's supposed to be out until January with a hip injury. James has played point guard with Rose out.
"We're out two starting point guards, so, I'm not overlooking what's going on," James said.

The Knicks (1-3) pounded one of the teams that have beaten the Cavs and rained 3s upon them during this ugly stretch when they beat the Brooklyn Nets 107-86 on Friday.

Whereas Cleveland is struggling because injuries at the point guard position, New York was thrilled with the play of rookie Frank Ntilikina, who contributed nine points with five assists off the Knicks' bench in his Madison Square Garden debut.

"For a young kid, 19 years old, you don't see that bright-eyed 'oh my gosh, I'm in the Garden,' " Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek said. "He just plays. He's got the great feel for the game. He knows what to do. He's not rushed. He just takes his time."

Ntilikina is 6-5. He's averaging only 4.5 points for the season, but he's a reason for excitement for the Knicks as they attempt a rebuild. Kristaps Porzingis is their top player, averaging 26.5 points and 7.8 boards in his second season.

"It was important to get the first one and especially at home," Porzingis said. "It's one more game. Now we've seen what we're capable of when we play good defense, when we play tough -- we know what we're capable of.

"Brooklyn was averaging 120 points coming into this game and we kept them to 87. So that just shows with defense we're going to be able to win games."

(cbssports.com via STATS)
 

and1

Rotation player
nice thread!
cavs haven't been looking so good lately. they're going to throw everything they got at us.
if we play the kind of defense we played against the nets, this could be a winnable game.
let's get it!
 

mafra

Legend
CLE playing poorly; they played (and lost) last night.

With our history of struggles vs LJ & CLE.... this is sort of a swing game. 2-3 vs 1-4.

Would be nice to see KP finally show up bs Cavs and for Frank Nitty to have another good showing. Maybe Timmy busts out.

Let's hope we see some defensive effort.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Great info Game-Thread Rady .... I dont see Lebron losing 3 in row in regular season .. unless Horn turn into Spurs coach Pop over night.
 

tiger0330

Legend
Thanks for taking time out of your w/e Rady to make this game thread. I would sorely love to see them break that 3 year drought of wins against the Cavs and judging by their record this season this is the Knicks best chance esp catching them on a back to back and them missing Kyrie, IT and DRose. Horn should go with the same lineups and rotations that won the game Fri. KP needs to step up and better that 11ppg avg against the Cavs last season and if Timmy can wake up we have an even better chance. Lets go Knicks.
 

tiger0330

Legend
DRose starting. Makes it a little tougher, I like our chances better when Lebron is the primary ball handler. Rose gives them 2 PGs on the floor.
 
DRose starting. Makes it a little tougher, I like our chances better when Lebron is the primary ball handler. Rose gives them 2 PGs on the floor.

Rose is averaging 1.5 assists in the 2 games he has been healthy enough to play this year. His role as a PG is in name only.
 

tiger0330

Legend
Mills and Perry not playing, they at least have seats in Quicken but unlike Phil they are earning their paychecks traveling with the team.
 

dk7th

Benchwarmer
Jack to Hardway semi-break alley-oop. That may get Hardaway going. Big time play by Jack. We are seeing good basketball!! Also notice all the segments talking about defense during the broadcast?? Love this.
 
KP proving that Thompson cannot guard him. Cavs will likely have to make a defensive adjustment or it?s another likely 30 point game for KP.
 
Ntilikina has knocked the ball away from DWade 3 times, but has yet to get the steal. THJ starting to get it going.
 
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