New York Knicks - 2018 Draft

Broadway · Dec 20, 2017

mafra said:
Oklahoma Sooners freshman Trae Young tied the NCAA Division I record with 22 assists Tuesday night and became the first player in two decades to register at least 20 points and 20 assists in the same game.

Young's 22 assists tied a single-game record, shared by Syracuse's Sherman Douglas (1989), Southern's Avery Johnson (1988) and Charleston Southern's Tony Fairley (1987).

At 6-foot-2 and 180 pounds, Young is the Division I leader in points (28.5 PPG) and assists (10.2 APG).

Young has four games with at least 20 points and 10 assists this season, as many as anyone had in D-I last season. He also scored or assisted on 72 percent of Oklahoma's offense against Northwestern State, and he was responsible for more points than the Demons scored (68) as a team.

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Good point, Broadway, on ORL failing to develop guys. Add KOQ to that list.... Herz should join our euro-centric roster where he can blossom.

Orlando is truly disgusting here on some never will we see this again levels. In the past 7yrs they've had these players on their team when they were young/younger.

Victor Oladipo
Tobias Harris
Mo Harkless
Dewayne Dedmon
E'Twaun Moore
Kyle O'Quinn
J.J. Redick
Ryan Anderson
Marcin Gortat
Shabazz Napier

I'd argue the collection of players above are better than the current roster

But instead put all their eggs in the Fournier basket. Not that he's a bad player but when you have 2 prospects in Hezonja and Isaac who are languishing to nonexistence and you've simultaneously started benched/started benched Payton and Vucevic and only recently started featuring Aaron Gordon after he got Dunk publicity you know this franchise is all kinds of wrongs and wronger. Another major reason their former GM should've been fired and judging by what I'm witnessing at present the current one should be sweating bullets too, 1st yr on the job.

This is a modern day American tragedy. No one knows who their best player is. I'd gladly take Hezonja if they're trying to feature him, shouldn't take much to get a deal done.

mafra · Dec 20, 2017

Broadway said:
Orlando is truly disgusting here on some never will we see this again levels. In the past 7yrs they've had these players on their team when they were young/younger.

Victor Oladipo
Tobias Harris
Mo Harkless
Dewayne Dedmon
E'Twaun Moore
Kyle O'Quinn
J.J. Redick
Ryan Anderson
Marcin Gortat
Shabazz Napier

I'd argue the collection of players above are better than the current roster

But instead put all their eggs in the Fournier basket. Not that he's a bad player but when you have 2 prospects in Hezonja and Isaac who are languishing to nonexistence and you've simultaneously started benched/started benched Payton and Vucevic and only recently started featuring Aaron Gordon after he got Dunk publicity you know this franchise is all kinds of wrongs and wronger. Another major reason their former GM should've been fired and judging by what I'm witnessing at present the current one should be sweating bullets too, 1st yr on the job.

This is a modern day American tragedy. No one knows who their best player is. I'd gladly take Hezonja if they're trying to feature him, shouldn't take much to get a deal done.

I wonder what the price tag would be? WHG for Herz?

tiger0330 · Dec 20, 2017

Broadway said:
Orlando is truly disgusting here on some never will we see this again levels. In the past 7yrs they've had these players on their team when they were young/younger.

Victor Oladipo
Tobias Harris
Mo Harkless
Dewayne Dedmon
E'Twaun Moore
Kyle O'Quinn
J.J. Redick
Ryan Anderson
Marcin Gortat
Shabazz Napier

I'd argue the collection of players above are better than the current roster

But instead put all their eggs in the Fournier basket. Not that he's a bad player but when you have 2 prospects in Hezonja and Isaac who are languishing to nonexistence and you've simultaneously started benched/started benched Payton and Vucevic and only recently started featuring Aaron Gordon after he got Dunk publicity you know this franchise is all kinds of wrongs and wronger. Another major reason their former GM should've been fired and judging by what I'm witnessing at present the current one should be sweating bullets too, 1st yr on the job.

This is a modern day American tragedy. No one knows who their best player is. I'd gladly take Hezonja if they're trying to feature him, shouldn't take much to get a deal done.

How much do you think Scott Perry was involved with this train wreck? Funny that Mills and Perry talk about developing a winning culture but Skiles complained about just that when he quit.

Broadway · Dec 20, 2017

tiger0330 said:
How much do you think Scott Perry was involved with this train wreck? Funny that Mills and Perry talk about developing a winning culture but Skiles complained about just that when he quit.

He deserves lots of blame(Rob the majority) because as you state when Skiles quit one of the things that leaked...he was being told who to play from above(mgmt). Like seriously the nerve of them. I've spoke on Orlando several times on this forum not glowingly and this won't change for a while.

This is a franchise who once again in review...

Traded Tobias Harris for Brandon Jennings and Illyasova...Skiles was tired of the young pieces not working and this is the trade they rocked with?

Traded Victor Oladipo, Illaysova, and draft rights to Sabonis(lol) for Ibaka and then flipped Ibaka for Terrence Ross and 2017 pick(25th which was traded for future OKC assets in 2020 a best case scenario of 21st and 31st picks because of protections<-------(all done less than a yr)

I believe Perry was there for most of it...hired by Kings in April 2017 with exception to when the 25th pick was traded which was on draft night in June(he was doing work for Kings then)

This completes my investigation

mafra · Dec 30, 2017

What a game today... Fla St at Duke. Total back and forth.... Bagley and Duvall were insane. At one point, Fla St was 16-25 from downtown. Duke wins 100-93, only bc Seminoles went cold final 3 minutes. Best game of the year so far (in college).

Broadway · Dec 30, 2017

mafra said:
What a game today... Fla St at Duke. Total back and forth.... Bagley and Duvall were insane. At one point, Fla St was 16-25 from downtown. Duke wins 100-93, only bc Seminoles went cold final 3 minutes. Best game of the year so far (in college).

I missed this...sounds like you enjoyed yourself watching it. I also missed Butler knocking off Villanova.

mafra · Dec 31, 2017

Broadway said:
I missed this...sounds like you enjoyed yourself watching it. I also missed Butler knocking off Villanova.

Butler kept making their shots, bolstered by their home crowd. ?Nova made a run to start second half and whittled 20 point lead to 8..:: but Butler kept scoring.

UNC barely survived at home vs Wake. A great afternoon of hoops culminating in a sweet NYK win.

Broadway · Dec 31, 2017

mafra said:
Butler kept making their shots, bolstered by their home crowd. ‘Nova made a run to start second half and whittled 20 point lead to 8..:: but Butler kept scoring.

UNC barely survived at home vs Wake. A great afternoon of hoops culminating in a sweet NYK win.

Yeah college definitely delivered. Ayton went absolutely "Beast Mode" something like 23/19 and then there's this kid who's absolutely unguardable in every sense.

This is like Steph Curry on steroids...good luck Knicks

mafra · Dec 31, 2017

This kid from Oklahoma could be player of the year and the top pick. Awesome!

Broadway · Dec 31, 2017

mafra said:
This kid from Oklahoma could be player of the year and the top pick. Awesome!

I didn't look at the boxscore but he had 39/14...goodness gracious.. Could've shot a little better overall but 6-14 from 3 and attempting 18fta suggest he's more than a handful.

tiger0330 · Jan 1, 2018

mafra said:
This kid from Oklahoma could be player of the year and the top pick. Awesome!

It'll be Bagley at Number 1 in the draft, head and shoulders better than any player on the floor in that FLA State game on both sides. Freak athlete that is able to mistime his jump going up for a RB but go up again and still snag the RB. Quick twitch muscles and pogo springs in his legs and can shoot the 3, he'll be better than DJ and AD.

Broadway · Jan 1, 2018

tiger0330 said:
It'll be Bagley at Number 1 in the draft, head and shoulders better than any player on the floor in that FLA State game on both sides. Freak athlete that is able to mistime his jump going up for a RB but go up again and still snag the RB. Quick twitch muscles and pogo springs in his legs and can shoot the 3, he'll be better than DJ and AD.

I don't think it's as clear cut anymore hence NBADraft.net has Ayton #1 and Trae #3(he wasn't in the top 30 to start the season I don't believe). I'm not saying Bagley isn't a deserved consensus #1 but the gap has closed immensely.

There are 6 prospects who IMO have stud status written all over them and we may not have a chance at none of them

tiger0330 · Jan 1, 2018

Broadway said:
I don't think it's as clear cut anymore hence NBADraft.net has Ayton #1 and Trae #3(he wasn't in the top 30 to start the season I don't believe). I'm not saying Bagley isn't a deserved consensus #1 but the gap has closed immensely.

There are 6 prospects who IMO have stud status written all over them and we may not have a chance at none of them

Very close between Ayton and Bagley, one thing about Ayton is he looks like he's unbreakable, tremendous body built to stand an 82 game schedule along with playing 30 plus minutes. If you were to pick a guy that wouldn't get injured, he'd be my guy.

paris401 · Jan 2, 2018

Broadway said:
There are 6 prospects who IMO have stud status written all over them and we may not have a chance at none of them

yep... the way its looking is we mite sneak into the playoffs as the 8th seed, and face boston/cavs/rap's...wash... whomever... we will be one and done... this should be a tanking season for us... we need a stud, and doubt we will be the #1 landing spot for any free agents...

Broadway · Jan 4, 2018

Trae Young does it again even Stpeh Curry is giving this kid props publicly and said enjoys watching him play.

Dropped 27/9/10 on in state rival Oklahoma State. Trae Young only wants to be compared to Trae Young. IMO what separates him from Curry is the fact he actually distributes the basketball like Kidd unlike Curry. His vision and court awareness of teammates is uncanny. So impressive

Oh and then there's this kid(Markus Howard) who dropped 52 on Providence 42 of them in the 2nd half. Such gigantic games from guys so small of stature

RunningJumper · Jan 4, 2018

None of these guys are Beasley.

Broadway · Jan 6, 2018

Does he reel you back in fellas?

tiger0330 · Jan 8, 2018

Have to be impressed with the year Doncic is having in Europe playing in the Spanish League, the best league outside ot the NBA. Scouts are going to be impressed with an 18 yr old putting up these kind of numbers. He's back as the top pick in the ESPN Insider mock.

EuroLeague Rankings: Doncic

	Avg.	Rank
PPG	20.9	1
PER	29.4	1
Points/40	29.4	1
Win shares	21.6	1
FTA/40	9.5	3
Usage	31.1	3
RPG	6.1	6
assts/40	5.9	18

ESPN Insider top 100

Draft rankings: Top 100

Player	Pos	Team	Age	Height	Wingspan
1. Luka Doncic	PG	Real Madrid	18.8	6-8	N/A
2. Deandre Ayton	C	Arizona	19.4	7-0	7-5
3. Marvin Bagley III	PF/C	Duke	18.8	6-11	7-0?
4. Mohamed Bamba	C	Texas	19.6	7-0	7-9
5. Michael Porter Jr.	SF/PF	Missouri	19.5	6-10	7-0
6. Collin Sexton	PG	Alabama	18.9	6-2	6-7
7. Trae Young	PG	Oklahoma	19.2	6-2	6-4
8. Miles Bridges	SF/PF	Michigan St	19.7	6-6	7-7
9. Jaren Jackson Jr.	PF/C	Michigan St	18.3	6-10	7-4
10. Kevin Knox	SF/PF	Kentucky	18.3	6-9	7-0
11. Mikal Bridges	SF	Villanova	21.3	6-7	7-1?
12. Robert Williams	PF/C	Texas A&M	20.2	6-9	7-5?
13. Dzanan Musa	SF	Cedevita	18.6	6-9	6-8?
14. Bruce Brown	SG	Miami FL	21.3	6-3	6-8?
15. Lonnie Walker IV	SG	Miami FL	19.0	6-4	6-10?
16. Wendell Carter Jr.	C	Duke	18.7	6-10	7-3
17. Trevon Duval	PG	Duke	19.4	6-3	6-3?
18. Troy Brown	SG	Oregon	18.4	6-7	6-8
19. Anfernee Simons	SG	Team Breakdown	18.5	6-4	6-7
20. Hamidou Diallo	SG	Kentucky	19.4	6-5	7-0
21. Mitchell Robinson	C	N/A	19.7	6-11	7-4
22. Shake Milton	PG/SG	SMU	21.2	6-6	7-0
23. De'Anthony Melton	PG/SG	USC	19.6	6-3	6-8
24. Grayson Allen	SG	Duke	22.2	6-4	6-6?
25. Brandon McCoy	C	UNLV	19.5	6-11	7-1?
26. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander	PG/SG	Kentucky	19.4	6-6	7-0
27. Khyri Thomas	SG	Creighton	21.6	6-3	N/A
28. Jarrey Foster	SG	SMU	21.0	6-6	N/A
29. Jalen Hudson	SG	Florida	21.6	6-5	N/A
30. Nickeil Alexander-Walker	PG	Virginia Tech	19.3	6-5	6-9
31. Chimezie Metu	PF/C	USC	20.7	6-10	6-10?
32. Marko Simonovic	PF/C	Siena	18.2	7-0	N/A
33. Justin Jackson	SF/PF	Maryland	20.8	6-7	7-3
34. Daniel Gafford	PF/C	Arkansas	19.2	6-11	7-2
35. Austin Wiley	C	Auburn	18.9	6-11	7-5
36. Rodions Kurucs	SF/PF	Barcelona 2	19.9	6-10	N/A
37. Aaron Holiday	PG	UCLA	21.2	6-1	6-6
38. Chandler Hutchison	SG	Boise St	21.6	6-7	N/A
39. Goga Bitadze	C	Mega Bemax	18.4	6-11	7-2
40. Tyus Battle	SG/SF	Syracuse	20.2	6-7	6-8
41. O'Shae Brissett	PF	Syracuse	19.5	6-9	6-11
42. Devonte' Graham	PG	Kansas	22.8	6-2	N/A
43. Landry Shamet	PG	Wichita St	20.8	6-4	N/A
44. Nick Richards	C	Kentucky	20.0	6-11	7-5
45. PJ Washington	PF	Kentucky	19.3	6-8	7-3
46. Jarred Vanderbilt	SF	Kentucky	18.7	6-8	7-1
47. Brian Bowen	SF	N/A	19.2	6-7	6-9
48. Arnoldas Kulboka	SF	Capo D'Orlando	19.9	6-10	6-11
49. Bonzie Colson	PF	Notre Dame	21.9	6-5	6-11?
50. Jevon Carter	PG	West Virginia	22.3	6-2	6-3
51. Kevin Hervey	SF	Texas Arlington	21.4	6-7	N/A
52. Isaac Bonga	SF	Frankfurt	18.1	6-9	7-0
53. Alize Johnson	PF	Missouri St	21.6	6-9	N/A
54. Rawle Alkins	SG	Arizona	20.1	6-5	6-9
55. Allonzo Trier	SG	Arizona	21.9	6-5	6-7
56. Lagerald Vick	SF	Kansas	20.9	6-5	N/A
57. Aleksa Radanov	SG	FMP	19.9	6-8	N/A
58. Tony Carr	PG	Penn St	20.2	6-3	6-8
59. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk	SG	Kansas	20.5	6-8	6-5
60. Ethan Happ	PF/C	Wisconsin	21.6	6-10	N/A
61. Vince Edwards	SF	Purdue	21.7	6-8	7-0
62. Jacob Evans	SF	Cincinnati	20.5	6-6	N/A
63. Terence Davis	SG	Mississippi	20.6	6-4	N/A
64. Tryggvi Hlinason	C	Valencia	20.1	7-1	N/A
65. Keita Bates-Diop	SF	Ohio St	21.9	6-7	N/A
66. Jalen Brunson	PG	Villanova	21.3	6-2	6-3?
67. Abdoulaye N'doye	PG	Cholet	19.8	6-7	7-2
68. Tadas Sedekerskis	SF	Kedainiai	19.9	6-10	6-9?
69. Andrew Jones	PG/SG	Texas	20.0	6-4	6-6?
70. Ray Spalding	PF	Louisville	20.8	6-10	7-1
71. V.J. King	SF	Louisville	20.9	6-7	6-9?
72. Donta Hall	PF/C	Alabama	20.4	6-9	7-4
73. Rui Hachimura	PF	Gonzaga	19.9	6-8	N/A
74. Moritz Wagner	C	Michigan	20.6	6-11	7-0
75. DJ Hogg	SF/PF	Texas A&M	21.3	6-9	6-10?
76. Isaac Haas	C	Purdue	22.2	7-2	7-4
77. Matisse Thybulle	SG	Washington	20.8	6-5	N/A
78. Jordan Murphy	PF	Minnesota	20.8	6-6	N/A
79. Kostja Mushidi	SG	Mega Bemax	19.5	6-5	7-1
80. Karim Jallow	SF	Bayern Muenchen	20.7	6-7	6-8
81. Vasilis Charalampopoulos	PF	PAOK	20.9	6-9	N/A
82. Malik Pope	SF	San Diego St	21.4	6-10	7-2
83. John Konchar	SG	IPFW	21.8	6-6	N/A
84. Tyler Hall	SG	Montana St	20.7	6-4	N/A
85. Bryant Crawford	PG	Wake Forest	20.7	6-3	6-7
86. D'Marcus Simonds	PG/SG	Georgia St	20.2	6-3	N/A
87. Aric Holman	PF/C	Mississippi St.	20.4	6-10	N/A
88. Josh Okogie	SG	Georgia Tech	19.3	6-4	7-0
89. Amine Noua	PF	Villeurbanne	20.9	6-8	N/A
90. Xabi Lopez-Arostegui	SF	Joventut	20.6	6-8	N/A
91. Maximo Fjellerup	SF/PF	Bahia Blanca	20.1	6-7	N/A
92. Elie Okobo	PG	Pau-Orthez	20.1	6-3	N/A
93. Vanja Marinkovic	SG	Partizan	20.9	6-7	6-7
94. Dakota Mathias	SG	Purdue	22.4	6-4	N/A
95. Jeffrey Carroll	SF	Oklahoma St	23.1	6-6	6-6?
96. Omer Yurtseven	C	N.C. State	19.5	7-0	7-1
97. Donte Grantham	SF	Clemson	22.7	6-8	N/A
98. Viny Okouo	C	Malaga	20.7	7-2	N/A
99. Milik Yarbrough	SG/SF	Illinois St	22.1	6-6	N/A
100. Theo Pinson	SF	North Carolina	22.1	6-6	6-11

KNICKS MOB · Jan 8, 2018

^^^ I don't really follow college ball but were gonna need one of those top 15 small forwards/power forwards on our team. That'll complete our starting line up, then we can focus on building the perfect bench

mafra · Jan 10, 2018

The Ringer?s latest mock has NYK selecting 13th. The draft?s no-man?s land.

Shooting guard, Oregon, freshman (6-foot-7, 215 pounds, 18 years old).

Chau: Oregon?s been disappointing early in conference play, but freshman Troy Brown has looked good over the past month, averaging 12.9 points (on 45.7 percent shooting, 39.3 from 3), 8.0 rebounds, 3.5 assists, and 1.4 steals per game since December began.

A lot of Brown?s pros and cons overlap with the Knicks? point guard of the future in Frank Ntilikina: Brown is a smart, jack-of-all-trades type of 3-and-D guard with good creative instincts but a noticeable lack of high-end athleticism. Ntilikina was one of the youngest players in the 2017 draft, and Brown will be one of the youngest in this year?s?and the best thing you could say about either of them is how mature their games are. Loading up on interchangeable players who play a fundamentally sound brand of basketball isn?t the worst way to build up a franchise led by a unicorn.

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