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    Toronto Raptors Game Thread: New York Knicks @ Toronto Raptors 7:30 11/17/2017 [Game #15]





    (8-6) -- (9-5)

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    Air Canada Centre, Toronto, ON MSG 7:30 PM EST


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    Injury Report

    New York Knicks Toronto Raptors
    Joakim Noah - NBA Suspension (OUT) Norman Powell - Right Hip Pointer (DOUBT)
    Ron Baker - Sprained left shoulder (OUT) Delon Wright - Right Shoulder (TBD)
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    TORONTO -- The New York Knicks and the Toronto Raptors will meet for the first time this season on Friday night, each coming off uplifting, comeback victories on Wednesday.

    The Knicks (8-6) defeated the Utah Jazz 106-101 after trailing by as many as 12 points in the third quarter. It was the third time in eight days, the Knicks rallied from a double-digit deficit to win and they are 7-3 in their last 10 games after dropping their first three games.

    The Raptors (9-5) trailed the New Orleans Jazz by 14 points in the first quarter before coming back for a 125-116 victory after defeating the Houston Rockets on Tuesday to go 2-1 on a three-game road trip.

    Both were significant victories, but the game Wednesday was particularly important for the Knicks to respond after blowing a 23-point lead in a loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers on Monday.

    Both games were at home. The Knicks will play only their second game on the road this month when they visit the Air Canada Centre.

    Kristaps Porzingis and Tim Hardaway Jr. teamed up to lead the fourth-quarter surge for the Knicks.

    "We knew it was a must-win for us (Wednesday) to protect our home court, especially after a tough loss like that," said Porzingis, who scored 22 points against the Jazz. "We had to forget about that game (against the Cavaliers). This was a new game and we got it done."

    The Toronto offense has been hot, scoring 129 points against Houston on Tuesday before falling four points shy of that to complete a challenging back-to-back set in New Orleans.

    "I think we're making shots and getting shots that we want," said Raptors guard Kyle Lowry, who had 22 points, 11 rebounds and nine assists against the Pelicans. "I think everyone is confident in taking the shots we work on. Everybody has been consistently working on his game. Coaches are preaching when you've got open looks take them and be aggressive in all the things that you do."

    C.J. Miles, signed in the offseason for his ability to make 3-pointers, has been doing just what was expected of him, going 5 of 9 from behind the arc Wednesday after going 6 of 9 against Houston.

    "The guys are looking for me for one thing," Miles said. "We are doing a lot of things and moving the ball and because guys are being assertive in what they do it's allowing me to find gaps and spaces and guys can't just stay hugged up.

    "At the same time, I have been watching a lot of film just seeing how I can stay active and not kind of get buried in the corners or not standing still or waiting for plays to be called because when plays are called it's really hard to get open."

    The Knicks are getting some valuable play from rookie point guard Frank Ntilikina, who scored five of his seven points Wednesday in the fourth quarter.

    "We have great confidence in him defensively," Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek said. "It's great that a young guy comes into this league with more defensive principles than the offensive principles.

    "He's going to grow and get better and better at the offensive side of it. It's hard to teach the other way. He does a great job. He's got long arms. Late in the game (Utah) tried to throw the ball in the corner. He didn't get sucked in. He kind of split guys and had those long arms out."

    The Raptors will be without Delon Wright on Friday. He left the game Wednesday in the second quarter with a dislocated right shoulder. He was examined Thursday and the team was awaiting test results.

    Toronto's Norman Powell did not play Tuesday or Wednesday after leaving the loss to the Boston Celtics on Sunday with a right hip pointer. He is day to day.

    New York's Joakim Noah was inactive for the second straight game Wednesday since his reinstatement from a 20-game performance-enhancing drug suspension and it is not certain when he will return to the rotation.

    (cbssports.com via STATS)

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    I want Hornacek to stick to the guys he's been playing, but I am interested in what Noah can do. Although maybe if he gets rest for a much longer time maybe he'll be even healthier.


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    Coach Horn finally sheds some insight in what the thought process is internally at MSG.

    8-6 is nice and all, but remember.... all but 4 were home games.

    “You go into every season with high hopes, but (playoffs) wasn’t what we’re focusing on,” Hornacek said. “We were trying to lay a foundation and play a base where we could grow in three years to get to be a good team. We still have a lot of work to do. There are things we need to get better at. But we’re happy with where the guys are and the steps they’ve taken. Step 1 was to just make sure we played hard every night and the guys are doing it.”

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    After watching the Celts for several games this year, I'm becoming a fan of this position less bball system they play up there. Get 3-4 guys that have the length and athleticism to guard 1-4, play a swarming switching defense and you can win games. BOS beat CHA when 3 key guys shot 9-42 and beat the world champs yesterday shooting 30 pct 20 pct from 3, defense can win games. We went with a small lineup of Frank, CLee, THJ, KP and Dougie down the stretch that kind of looked like that BOS lineup of Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Horford and Smart to me, I'd like to see more of that lineup during the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    After watching the Celts for several games this year, I'm becoming a fan of this position less bball system they play up there. Get 3-4 guys that have the length and athleticism to guard 1-4, play a swarming switching defense and you can win games. BOS beat CHA when 3 key guys shot 9-42 and beat the world champs yesterday shooting 30 pct 20 pct from 3, defense can win games. We went with a small lineup of Frank, CLee, THJ, KP and Dougie down the stretch that kind of looked like that BOS lineup of Kyrie, Brown, Tatum, Horford and Smart to me, I'd like to see more of that lineup during the game.

    Wsup Rady .... Thanks for the Game-Thread .. the Raptors has been playing on a high ceiling the past 10 games matching Boston high level of B.ball. They say Ibaka might be questionable in this game after his left knee swelled-up after the back to back game vs Houston then Pelicans.

    Wsup Tiger .... Boston coach Brad Stevens has been using 12 players in his 10 man rotation, plus having each player co-exist well on the defensive end of the court for stops .. Brown n Smart co-exist well at locking down the passing-lane, plus they switch well at defending the perimeter.
    Boston has some good players in their rotation, but their coaching tactics has Boston on a 14 game winning streak.
    I'm looking for coach Horn to grab a little of Brad Stevens madness to add to our roster n rotation tonite vs the Raptors

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Coach Horn finally sheds some insight in what the thought process is internally at MSG.

    8-6 is nice and all, but remember.... all but 4 were home games.

    “You go into every season with high hopes, but (playoffs) wasn’t what we’re focusing on,” Hornacek said. “We were trying to lay a foundation and play a base where we could grow in three years to get to be a good team. We still have a lot of work to do. There are things we need to get better at. But we’re happy with where the guys are and the steps they’ve taken. Step 1 was to just make sure we played hard every night and the guys are doing it.”
    I do not want to see a non-creative coach Horn as our head coach next season .. i dont care if we do end the season as a .500 team.

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    Thanks again, Rady.

    Through the 1st 150 games of his career, KP has more blocks than either Kevin Garnett or Dwight Howard did and he has hit more 3-pointers than either Reggie Miller or Kevin Durant did. Yikes.

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    nice thread.
    not a good sign when you foul a 3pt shooter twice within just a couple of minutes.
    blame vegas

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    just as i was typing 'knicks building a house out there in toronto', frank hits a 3.
    but they're still throwing up too many bricks. damn.
    blame vegas

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    no disrespect to jack, because i like what he's done for us so far this season, but he should NOT have to be the leading scorer for us against any team lol.
    blame vegas

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    Terrible 1st half shooting. Lucky to only be down 14 with 6 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter. Hard to believe we can actually still steal this one. Got to keep chipping away. Let’s go Knicks!

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    KP is 2 for 11, but we’re hanging around, only down 12.

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    Good sequence for Ntilikina. Assist to O’Quinn followed by a steal followed by a layup. Only down 10.

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    Ran out of steam in the 4th quarter. Toronto has extended lead back to over 20.

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    pretty disappointing, not so much that they lost to the raptors, but they just did not look very good.
    KP and lee both with an awful night. was it injuries? a bad elbow and a nagging hamstring? hopefully by monday they'll be feeling better. a win against the clippers would be a nice bounce back. and we get to see the raptors again next wednesday.
    we have to stop relying on late game 4th qtr heroics, especially when we're on the road.
    blame vegas

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