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    Originally Posted by RunningJumper
    On a Pelicans board I go to they weren't big on Monty Williams as a coach. They're rarely ever happy though.

    I've read or heard that Jackson relied a lot on iso-ball. I don't know if that's true.
    Last time Pelicans were in the playoffs Monty was their coach and he didn't have Cousins on that squad. Then again maybe Pelicans are on to something about standards

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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    Last time Pelicans were in the playoffs Monty was their coach and he didn't have Cousins on that squad. Then again maybe Pelicans are on to something about standards
    The Pelicans should have kept coach Monty they would be playing .600 b.ball having Monty n Cousins .. Monty turned out to be a great big man coach when he developed AD for the playoffs.

    I like Burke' s motivation on offense n defense .. Lee n Jack's playing time minutes should be decrease to give Burke minutes the remainder of the season. Burke remind me of a late Starks.

    Head coach Hornacek has finally played a decent 12 Man rotation this season .. Knicks held the lead throughout the game to beat Brooklyn .. Great WIN on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. DAY !!!

    The lineup of Nitty Mcderm Beasley Quinn does not need Lee in the lineup .. Tim Hardaway Jr. belong in lineup.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    Beautiful feed to MB on the break by Knits. KP block and this game is over...

    Knits with one of his best games of the season.... Maybe Burke’s arrival sparked something....

    Again, the only possible way NYK was losing this game was resting KP. A responsible organization looking towards the future would’ve rested KP. We all know his play recently warranted such a rest. These types of wins remove the Westbrook and Curry type prospects from your grasp, and you end up selecting Hill and Sweetney type bums.
    I believe the Knicks would have won this game without KP n THJ .. KP played a great game bc he committed 4 fouls playing good defense plus KP received less than 30 minute of playingtime at end of back to back .. I'm not Tired !!!

    There are to many good NBA teams in the West n East that are TANKING for a lottery pick this season .. SAD!
    The Knicks will have to settle for a 15th to 17th pick in the 2018 draft .. while developing KEEPER players throughout midseason .. maybe make one or two moves on the trading deadline .. And start looking early for a Mark Jackson type head coach for next season !!!

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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    Yuck that backcourt is doing nothing great going forward. I appreciate their efforts but only one may qualify as starter material
    With the talent dilution in the NBA it's hard to put an above-average to great player at every position. Too many teams. So players who are well-rounded and impact the game in ways that don't show up on the nightly stat sheet are still going to be valued by GMs and coaches. A lot of people like to hate on and goof on Baker but I see a guy who almost always is a net positive when he is on the court because the defense is better and the ball moves better on offense too.

    According to ESPN RPM he is ranked 6th on defense for shooting guards off the bench and 22nd on offense. So clearly, given the Knicks record right now, he is certainly not part of the problem and looks more and more like part of the solution. Only thing holding him back is his outside shooting, and I think we all still expect that to come. Some collegians who were great college shooters need a couple of seasons to adjust their shots.

    So yeah, I'll take a Ron Baker/Frank Ntlikina backcourt during the rebuild. And at the end of the day it's not who starts it's how many minutes and when.

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    Originally Posted by dk7th
    With the talent dilution in the NBA it's hard to put an above-average to great player at every position. Too many teams. So players who are well-rounded and impact the game in ways that don't show up on the nightly stat sheet are still going to be valued by GMs and coaches. A lot of people like to hate on and goof on Baker but I see a guy who almost always is a net positive when he is on the court because the defense is better and the ball moves better on offense too.

    According to ESPN RPM he is ranked 6th on defense for shooting guards off the bench and 22nd on offense. So clearly, given the Knicks record right now, he is certainly not part of the problem and looks more and more like part of the solution. Only thing holding him back is his outside shooting, and I think we all still expect that to come. Some collegians who were great college shooters need a couple of seasons to adjust their shots.

    So yeah, I'll take a Ron Baker/Frank Ntlikina backcourt during the rebuild. And at the end of the day it's not who starts it's how many minutes and when.
    I agree in terms of modern era basketball and how the landscape of competition is shaped across league with the welcoming of expansion but this has been going on for quite a while now and the league has finally leveled off. The league may be missing some Top Tiers(fading) coming in, in recent yrs but 1-12 there is plenty talent in this league and Knicks have less of it, plain and simple.

    We can look at any cute ESPN/Elias Sports metric for any middling to lower tier talent and make them appear larger than life, really it can be done for any player for the matter.

    Baker is possibly in the mold of...Rozier/Wright/Delly/Berrea/Joseph/Grant/Mills/Ish/Moore/Shabazz/Dinwiddie/Johnson/Mcconnell(remember how he lit us up at the Garden)/Jones(remember he recently outplayed Knits the other night)

    Every team has such a guy if not "collectively" more talented than Baker so please STOP IT!...I know you're smarter than this. If we trade Baker tomorrow 1 we won't get much back for him if anything and 2 we wouldn't bat an eye he's no longer here

    Beating a bad Brooklyn team again in what was essentially a home game, doesn't change anything at present except making up a game in the race for 9th possibly 8th

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    The Pelicans should have kept coach Monty they would be playing .600 b.ball having Monty n Cousins .. Monty turned out to be a great big man coach when he developed AD for the playoffs.

    I like Burke' s motivation on offense n defense .. Lee n Jack's playing time minutes should be decrease to give Burke minutes the remainder of the season. Burke remind me of a late Starks.

    Head coach Hornacek has finally played a decent 12 Man rotation this season .. Knicks held the lead throughout the game to beat Brooklyn .. Great WIN on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. DAY !!!

    The lineup of Nitty Mcderm Beasley Quinn does not need Lee in the lineup .. Tim Hardaway Jr. belong in lineup.
    Not sure a 12 man rotation is practical but I know someone who's not liking what he's doing with it


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