Game Thread: New York Knicks @ Los Angeles Lakers 3:30 1/21/2018 [Game #47]

mafra

Legend
Well, any hope management would improve this roster during the season died this weekend. Losing in MEM and LAK pretty much solidified the tank.
 
Complete collapse in the late 3rd and 4th quarter. Hornacek?s job should only be safe through the end of this season if the front office has committed to tanking.
 

The Dragon

Benchwarmer
what kind of rotation is this? why the defenseless Gomez was in the game and Kanter out all that time.... what is the use of baker?..... we can't defend bunch of kids?
 

mafra

Legend
Third game in 6 days (5th in 8) all on the road; methinks KP and many others enjoyed their Sat night in Los Angels. I hope they had fun bc it cost them all their energy in 4th.

This team gave up 30 points in all 4 quarters... first time doing that this season. If they went out last night.... shame on all of them. Have to question their professionalism.
 

tiger0330

Legend
Complete collapse in the late 3rd and 4th quarter. Hornacek’s job should only be safe through the end of this season if the front office has committed to tanking.
I've been saying the Knicks have enough to win and if the coach can't get that team wins, he should be gone. We may be tanking but a losing record should be the end of the PJ and his last hire Hornacek.
 

tiger0330

Legend
Well, any hope management would improve this roster during the season died this weekend. Losing in MEM and LAK pretty much solidified the tank.
They should fire Perry if he makes any trades other than GLeague callups or trading guys on the current roster for picks and expiring contracts.
 

Broadway

All Star
Randle and Clarkson the better duo today (over KP and Knits).

Both having the measurables over the former two, but did it show up today...NOPE!

Knits has been really awful defensively a little over a month now
 
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Broadway

All Star
They should fire Perry if he makes any trades other than GLeague callups or trading guys on the current roster for picks and expiring contracts.

Actually they should fire him if he doesn't do the latter of what you said as an absolute must. If he fails with any lack of activity to do this, please let's get rid of him
 

tiger0330

Legend
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Broadway

All Star
Both having the measurables over both but did it show up today...NOPE!

Knits has been really awful defensively a little over a month now


If you look at the usage rates vs production between #kporzee and Randle this month...Randle has been just as good if not better in key areas
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Poor tank-tank .... if we would have gave 10 more minutes to WHG to score n rebound down low to have 18 minute of playingtime, and gave Quinn 24 minute of playingtime tandem with WHG in the front court plus tandem Frank n Burke in the backcourt for 18 minute of playingtime the Knicks would've beat Lakers in LA today.
The Lakers could not stop KP n Kanter from scoring n rebounding inside the paint nor could the Lakers stop the tandem of Quinn n WHG .. especially when we had THJ or Beasely on the wing scoring at will.
The majority of the Lakers 29 losses came from opponents big men scoring inside and dominating the glass.
Head coach Hornacek Tank-Tank road games are getting boring !!!
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Both having the measurables over both but did it show up today...NOPE!

Knits has been really awful defensively a little over a month now

The 19 yr old Knits need to be put in a defensive lineup or in a lineup having two big men .. something Hornacek refuse to do ..
I still believe Noah are our best defensive player and our best passing bigman on the roster .. there's no reason why coach Horn has not put together our best defensive players in a lineup this season .. Noah Quinn Mcderm THJ and Knits
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Thanks for the Stat- Sheet Tig ....
Each of our starters shot 10 or more shot attempts tonight, and our 8 bench players totaled 24 shot attempts tonight.
Wow another Knick game where Beasley show us Knick fans that Beasley should be the Knicks 6th Man off the bench by scoring 17 pts on 7-9 fg shooting in just 14 minute of playingtime tonight.
 

tiger0330

Legend
I think Burke-Beasley should be enough offense running the second unit.
Jack isn't in the Knicks future, we may be 10 games below .500 in FEB. Start Burke and Nits as the first pg off the bench. Horn said he's not sending Nits down to the GLeague.
 

mafra

Legend
LOS ANGELES ? Tim Hardaway Jr. left the Staples Center court Sunday, muttering in anger. Afterward, he put his words on the record, saying, damningly, the Lakers ?wanted it more.??

Hardaway had a right to be fuming as one day after he said the Knicks should be zeroing in on a playoff berth, they looked far from it in a disgraceful defensive outing.

The depleted, rebuilding Lakers feasted on the Knicks in a home matinee, routing them 127-107. The Lakers? young prospects dominated with Jordan Clarkson notching 29 points and Julius Randle roaring for 25 points and 12 rebounds as they ran the Knicks out of downtown L.A. with 56 percent shooting.

Hardaway kept harping on the subject in the locker room after the Knicks played groggy for a 12:30 p.m. West Coast tipoff.


?It is very frustrating,?? said Hardaway, who finished with 17 points after he was the hero of the Utah win Friday. ?What?d you see out there? That could be part of it [the early start]. They wanted it more. We can?t let that happen. It shouldn?t be happening. Both teams should be competing at an equal pace.?

Several Knicks cited the Lakers, despite their 17-29 record, having the fastest attack in the NBA. However, they were without their speedy point guard, Lonzo Ball (knee soreness), and starting small forward, Kentavius Caldwell-Pope.

?We were going against a team that leads the league in pace and wants to get up and down,?? Hardaway added. ?We got to be ready for it. We were not ready for it today.?

Even going as far as giving Lakers coach Luke Walton a plug, Hardaway praised their effort.

?We didn?t get enough stops today,?? Hardaway said. ?We really didn?t get any stops. That team is so well-energized, well-coached. They do a great job of crashing the glass, going hard on every possession, diving on the floor. You could tell they want it.??

This wasn?t a good afternoon for Kristaps Porzingis, who scored 17 points but was invisible as an interior defender and grabbed just five rebounds to go with one block. The Lakers scored 60 points in the paint and were physical with Porzingis.

?We agreed we didn?t do a good job of slowing it down ourselves and falling into their game,?? Porzingis said. ?They?re really good [at pushing the pace] and we played too loose.??

?They just played harder than us in everything,?? said Enes Kanter. ?They out-hustled us and got easy baskets. We can?t play like this in road games and expect to get a win. We didn?t play hard enough. We can?t go out here and say, ?Hey, let?s get a win.? ?

While his team fell to 6-17 away from the Garden. Jeff Hornacek looked exasperated all game, especially in the fourth quarter, when the Lakers outscored the Knicks 30-18. A fed-up Hornacek called timeout after Brandon Ingram shot an airball and Julius Randle caught it underneath and stuffed it on Porzingis.

?Randle and Clarkson, they were killing us,? he added. ?We tried multiple guys on them, but they took to whoever was guarding them.?
 

tiger0330

Legend
Little consolation to me since he owned KP but Randle had some nice things to say about Porzingis.

On Sunday night, the Los Angeles Lakers defeated the New York Knicks, 127-107. Kristaps Porzingis had only 17 points as the Lakers outscored the Knicks, 30-18, in the fourth quarter. Julius Randle had an amazing game, scoring 27 points, five assists, and 12 rebounds. Randle was responsible for defending Porzingis, and he was surprised by the strength of the Latvian power forward, according to Ryan Ward of ClutchPoints.


"It's tough. Earlier in his career he was a lean guy, so earlier in his career you could really press up on him, he didn't really know how to adjust to contact. Now he knows how to play off contact & draw fouls."

Porzingis stands 7-foot-3 and he weighs about 240 pounds. His combination of size and skill makes him a nightmare matchup for opposing power forwards. However, Randle appeared to have gotten the best of Porzingis in their latest duel, but he did commend Porzingis for his improved strength.

Porzingis may be a 7-footer, but his strength has always been a defining question mark. Undeniably, Porzingis is a great NBA talent, but he is going to have to get much stronger to dominate opposing power forwards and centers.

Apparently, Randle believes that Porzingis is already a strong player who is adept at absorbing contact and drawing fouls. After all, Porzingis is averaging 23.3 points, 6.7 rebounds, and 1.2 assists per game this season. If Randle is correct, the Knicks star may just be ready to start dominating the interior to help his team win more games.

The Knicks are currently 10th in the Eastern Conference. Hopefully, Porzingis can use his improved strength to dominate the Warriors on Tuesday night.
 
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