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    Default Kristaps Porzingis Out for Season with Torn ACL

    I know that people are already talking about this in other threads, but this is big enough news that I think it should have its own thread.

    What do people think? KP will likely be out until halfway through the 2018-19 season. Is this a devastating loss for our team, but possibly a blessing in disguise?

    We all wanted this team to be sellers not buyers at the deadline. We are all wary of KP’s looming huge extension with how bad we are right now.

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    Only way it’s a blessing is if it’s like when David Robinson got hurt, and that netted SA Duncan.

    If NY gets 2 stud lottery picks AND KP returns from injury without any lasting issues.... then this might be a good thing.

    But, for the most part, just the normal doing for us suffering NYK fans. More bad news...

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    Trade deadline is tomorrow. Let's see what Mills and Perry do, pretty clear that trading for help to make a playoff push would be insane but I wouldn't put it past this mediocre front office to do just that. Look Perry was over 50 when Mills gave him a shot at his first GM position. If he was good he would have been a GM a lot earlier.

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    Originally Posted by htr10
    I know that people are already talking about this in other threads, but this is big enough news that I think it should have its own thread.

    What do people think? KP will likely be out until halfway through the 2018-19 season. Is this a devastating loss for our team, but possibly a blessing in disguise?

    We all wanted this team to be sellers not buyers at the deadline. We are all wary of KP’s looming huge extension with how bad we are right now.
    I agree with Shaq on this one in that this is a blessing in disguise. KP showed that the Knicks have at least one guy any player would want to play with. He got hurt just before the deadline and Ian Begley reported that we were going to trade with playoffs in mind before this injury. Now we can shift he focus to tank mode and get picks.
    Kp will come back from his injury and we can see what we have with this years young guys and picks for next season.

    Hopefully a free agent will want to play m NY with KP


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    Just looked up how quickly Adrian Peterson came back from an ACL and MCL tear and it was 9 months, which was considered a miraculous short amount of time to come back from his knee injury. Forget about KP coming back until next year, in the meantime you can expect his brother to push ahead with his max contract extension request just like Jabari has with the Bucks and that's for a guy who has had 2 ACL surgeries. Bucks rebuffed him and he's headed to RFA, Knicks probably do the same with Porzingis.

    That's a question for KOL, do you bargain in good faith and give KP a 154M extension when he's coming off major knee surgery. I can't remember a team thats done it.

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    Knicks either catch a break, and get KP to sign a more team-friendly contract while snagging 2 lottery studs....

    Or....

    KP is never the same player and we draft more Jordan Hill and Ntikikina type players

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    Porzingis’ return will be better known after he undergoes surgery in the coming week. Jabari Parker and Zach LaVine returned after 12 months of being sidelined. But Parker was rehabbing from a second ACL tear because the first didn’t work. Porzingis has age on his side.

    Dr. Armin Tehrany, a knee specialist and founder of Manhattan Orthopedic Care, told The Post in an email Wednesday morning: “Every individual player recovers at a different speed depending on the severity of the injury. Research has shown that sending the player back too early can increase the chance of failure. That Porzingis is only 22 years old, his young age will definitely help him recover better and faster than an older player.”

    (NY Daily News)


    I’m gonna look on the bright side and consider this a divine act of intervention to save NY from themselves.

    No point rushing KP back.... even if it takes until March-April next season. NY should easily get a top 10 pick now this season and will stink next year too.

    This injury should solidify our tank train. They won’t be adding pieces this week and hopefully the cap situation restricts their signings this summer.

    Get a top 10 pick. Don’t sign vets to help next season (only young assets under 27).... play kids all year next year.... secure a top 5 pick.

    Plus, this injury should make re-signing KP a tad easier.... we should both meet in the middle.

    2018 top 10 pick
    2019 top 5 pick
    KP returns next March...
    Frank shows development
    We somehow take all these vets and assets and find a quality young player.
    Sign a young player this summer
    Sign a max guy next summer

    This is how we field a team ready for deep May run come 2020

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    Think of this ad our new “process”.... just like PHI gathered lottery picks waiting for Embiid to heal.... now it’s our turn.

    KP do your work to recover and Mills/Perry better do their work

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    (NY Post)

    The Knicks have little choice in the matter of what they must do now. If there is one silver lining — and it is but a thin sliver of silver — it is this: The fantasy they’d created for themselves that they could somehow sneak into the playoffs is now over.

    Whatever benefits they believed would be available by serving as a four-game tomato can for the Celtics or Raptors — in a best-case scenario — are now beside the point. The Knicks tried, really tried, to sell us — and, more relevant, to sell themselves — that this year was supposed to be all about rebuilding.

    But then they won a few home games, built a nice record after 30 games, Kristaps Porzingis bloomed as an All-Star, Tim Hardaway Jr. emerged as a steady wingman and Enes Kanter as a surprising crowd favorite. And suddenly it was back to the same old time-honored Knick Trick: the half-measure.

    The rebuild-while-trying-to-win trick.

    The Yankees pulled it off, they figured. Why not us?

    Well, forget about any notion of that. Porzingis is gone now, and there isn’t any way to know how long he’ll be gone. Best case — best case — he only misses all of training camp next year. Worst case … well, you remember Derrick Rose, right? More likely, he’ll make the kind of midseason return next year that will be over-heralded and then over-scrutinized, at the end of a long, dark season of rehabilitation.

    That has to be standard Knicks business in this immediate time before the trading deadline and for most of the next 18 months: Cut bait wherever possible. Collect picks. Clear cap space. Attempt to move anybody on the roster other than Porzingis, Frank Ntilikina and Hardaway. Lose to your heart’s content — and given the way the roster looks now, that shouldn’t be a problem, and there’s no reason the Knicks can’t reverse-leapfrog three or four teams into better lottery position.

    Most important: Accept that this is what’s necessary. Accept that while nobody wanted the epiphany to look like this, with Porzingis writhing on the Garden floor and vanishing for a year, that is now the only strategy that makes sense. No more half-measures. Commit to this. It’s the only way.

    It is also a way that has worked before, the Knicks turning a cruel twist (actually, a cruel tear) into something good and something real.

    If you are a Knicks fan of a certain age, the instant Porzingis crumpled to the ground Tuesday night had to produce some involuntary reactions: a sour stomach, a shivering spine, a powerful sense of déjà vu.

    If you are old enough, you remember the night of March 23, 1985. If you were watching the Knicks play the Kansas City Kings from Kemper Arena that night, it was for only one reason: Bernard King, the NBA’s leading scorer at 32.9 per game. The Knicks were a wreck: 24-46 heading into that Saturday night.

    With 90 seconds left in another forgettable loss, King tried to slip a pass to Eddie Lee Wilkins that was intercepted. Angry at himself, he sprinted to the other end of the floor, where Reggie Theus was preparing to dunk. King leapt with two outstretched hands, knocked away the ball while delivering a hard foul.

    And toppled to the floor.


    And started pounding the floor with his fist.

    “Look out,” Marv Albert said solemnly on television. “King hurt himself.”

    Thirty-three years later, it was like some distant, dastardly replay. It was King’s right knee, Porzingis’ left, but the result was the same: A Knicks season already careening off the road had slammed right into a wall. Helpless feeling then. Helpless feeling now.

    Those Knicks were experts at fooling themselves, too, believing themselves real contenders after extending the Celtics to a seventh game the year before but, in reality, just a collection of role players and aging players orbiting one superstar. Absent the superstar, they needed a new plan.

    Now, that era of Knicks got very lucky a few months later, winning the first-ever lottery when the odds were equal for all seven qualifying teams. Dave DeBusschere would deliver his own unforgettable punch, on a table at the Waldorf, and even if those Ewing Knicks never did deliver a parade, they sure gave the city its game back, and for a lot of years. All of it starting that horrible night by the Kansas City stockyards.

    The Knicks could use some of that old luck too, sure. More valuable will be seizing this as an opportunity to make hard choices and smart decisions. No more half-measures. They must rebuild this team at the same time the doctors repair Porzingis’ knee. That two-sided pathway is the only lighted trail through a permanent midnight.
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