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    Thibs wants to emulate his hero, and create a MIA culture here in NY...

    "Obviously, player development is critical," Thibodeau said. "But also, you can't lose sight of the team development. So it's not only the challenge of the player bringing the best out of himself but also how does he bring the best out of the team? And the team has to be very high. It's got to be at the top of the checklist. Winning is the most important thing. That's why you're here. And so how does everyone fit together and how do you bring the best out of each other?

    "So that's an important thing that we're studying: How hard to do people work? Do they play for each other? Those are big factors in winning. Do they know what to shoot? Do they know when to pass? And we see that. We see what wins in the playoffs. When you begin, you have to think about the end and what’s going to be necessary if ultimately you do become a playoff team. And so it starts with your fundamentals and that's where we are."


    Thibodeau on Friday said Riley has played a big role in influencing his coaching.

    "He was so far ahead of this time (in New York)," Thibodeau said of Riley. "Jeff carried over a lot of those things (when he coached the Knicks) and also added some other things that he picked up along the way. And so, you know, I have great respect for that.

    "And the fact that Pat did it in LA. He won championships there and then you know he got the Knicks to the doorstep and then, of course, to do it several times in Miami.

    "He's rebuilt the organization three or four times, you know. He's at the top of my list. He's been great to me over the years, and I've taken a lot of things that he's said to me, I've watched their organization very closely. You know, you understand what their core values are. And I'm happy for him."

    Riley and the Heat are one win away from the NBA Finals. They're led by Jimmy Butler, a player Thibodeau developed into a young star in Chicago.

    "I'm thrilled for him. It's a great story,” Thibodeau said. “It's a guy who was drafted 30th. And made himself better each and every year and continues to do so. Even now as an established all-star, he still works incredibly hard. He plays very unselfishly. He plays to win. He's not about statistics.

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    Kenny Wooten starting to get some solid buzz now that practices have started back up. Looks like he has been working on his shooting. Also, as Wooten noted on Twitter, NBA 2K gave him a block rating that puts him in the top 25 in the league, so apparently he is already a near elite shot blocker in the video game world. Wooten has also become a Knicks social media hero.

    What do people think about Wooten?

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Kenny Wooten starting to get some solid buzz now that practices have started back up. Looks like he has been working on his shooting. Also, as Wooten noted on Twitter, NBA 2K gave him a block rating that puts him in the top 25 in the league, so apparently he is already a near elite shot blocker in the video game world. Wooten has also become a Knicks social media hero.

    What do people think about Wooten?
    Saw the video of Wooten shooting corner 3s and he made 10-13 with better shooting form than I saw from RJ. He's got great physical assets with that 7'2" wingspan and 36" vertical, why couldn't he become our Bam Adabayo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Saw the video of Wooten shooting corner 3s and he made 10-13 with better shooting form than I saw from RJ. He's got great physical assets with that 7'2" wingspan and 36" vertical, why couldn't he become our Bam Adabayo.

    Exactly. Sometimes the onus on the player to develop. If he can block shots and knock down 3s... Hey now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Rumor is Knicks willing to trade their 2021 Dallas 1st rd pick and the 2nd round pick obtained from CHA for CP3. Those picks will probably be in 20-40 range, he's a 1st ballot HOF but at the tail end of his career so is he really worth trading even middling draft picks for.
    Rumors are the Knicks have cooled on acquiring CP 3 but exploring trading for Victor Oladipo. Trading for the pre-injury Oladipo that became an AS for the trade the NY Post is suggesting is one thing but no way am I giving the Pacers that much for last years version of him.


    As Knicks fans debate the merits of trading for an aging star in Chris Paul who is owed over $40 million in each of the next two seasons, a trade package for Oladipo could prove even costlier. The New York Post offers a hypothetical offer that would send Indiana Dallas’ two first round picks (2021, 2023), Julius Randle and either Dennis Smith Jr. or Frank Ntilikina in exchange for Oladipo.

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    Sounds like it’ll cost at least a DAL pick and Knox to get CP3.

    I think Rose will only move on CP3 (and Melo) if he gets a “star” or two via trades...

    Rose May feel like Knox, Knits, DJ and all are trash... he may think best way to develop MRob and RJ and this year’s 8th pick is to surround them with veteran leadership and talent.

    Trade for a “star” and then CP3/Melo have value for this roster, while filling it out with a Morris or Woods in free agency.

    Is this better route then signing a FVF and keeping assets?

    Would be typical KNicks to trade away the cupboard and end up with aged CP3 and an injured VO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Sounds like it’ll cost at least a DAL pick and Knox to get CP3.

    I think Rose will only move on CP3 (and Melo) if he gets a “star” or two via trades...

    Rose May feel like Knox, Knits, DJ and all are trash... he may think best way to develop MRob and RJ and this year’s 8th pick is to surround them with veteran leadership and talent.

    Trade for a “star” and then CP3/Melo have value for this roster, while filling it out with a Morris or Woods in free agency.

    Is this better route then signing a FVF and keeping assets?

    Would be typical KNicks to trade away the cupboard and end up with aged CP3 and an injured VO.
    I just don’t like the risk of getting an aged star esp a cap busting one and a guy like Dip that Bobby Marks said he has doubts that Dip can get back to playing like an AS again. You would hope that with the new mgt. we could avoid what happened in the past.

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    Uh-OH... I might puke... I already have 1 foot in the MAVS fandom, with Luka and KP.... a massive haul for an over-the-hill, overpaid vet, on his last legs, who had a decent few weeks during a bubble... whose price is now skyrocketed, like buying bottle water at Disney....

    Again, normally, you get picks to take in a contract like this...

    If we deal young players and picks for this, I may officially retire my 4 decade NyK fandom.

    With that in mind, Jonathan Macri once again updated us on the omnipresent Chris Paul trade rumors in his newsletter. (NOTE: Macri is going to start charging soon, and I feel obliged to pay, because he’s become one of the best in the game at disseminating Knicks news.)

    I’ve been told by a league source that Chris Paul prefers his next basketball home to be either in LA or NY (Los Angeles is where he resides full time) and that has created some modicum of leverage in the ongoing negotiations between the sides. I’m also told that there is a deal on the table that is comfortable from Sam Presti’s perspective, and the ball is in Leon Rose’s court.

    TKB

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    TKO

    “Interestingly, Wood's 2019-20 season numbers are comparable to another former Knicks power forward -- Kristaps Porzingis. As noted in March, Wood's scoring, rebounding and assist average per 36 minutes are on par with Porzingis, whom New York traded to Dallas in a deal that, so far, has looked awful for the Knicks.”

    Ian Begley writing that he believes CW is NyK’s top priority this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    I just don’t like the risk of getting an aged star esp a cap busting one and a guy like Dip that Bobby Marks said he has doubts that Dip can get back to playing like an AS again. You would hope that with the new mgt. we could avoid what happened in the past.

    The Knicks needed CP3 type of leadership on their roster the day the Knicks cut PG-Chauncy Billups off the Knicks to add a center Tyson Chandler to the roster.
    The old-man Chris Paul $40M per are 70% coaching, and 30% elite play-making skills.
    CP3 are the veteran player the Knicks NEEEDED urgently for there long roster of cheap $$$ young-core players.
    The majority of NBA players in the league will FOLLOW CP3 leadership !!!

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    Knicks will be exercising 4.2 million dollar option on Reggie Bullock. Makes sense given what he brings to the rotation at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyaman View Post
    The Knicks needed CP3 type of leadership on their roster the day the Knicks cut PG-Chauncy Billups off the Knicks to add a center Tyson Chandler to the roster.
    The old-man Chris Paul $40M per are 70% coaching, and 30% elite play-making skills.
    CP3 are the veteran player the Knicks NEEEDED urgently for there long roster of cheap $$$ young-core players.
    The majority of NBA players in the league will FOLLOW CP3 leadership !!!
    You make a good point but i question how many players on our roster are real nba talent. And because of that, i wouldnt have wanted to give up any (potential) talent in order to acquire him

    Billups was pretty good in his brief time with us. But Tyson Chandler made a big impact as well anchoring the defense. I wish we could have had both of them

    By the way, good to see you Kiyaman. I hope everythings going good for you!!

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    Knicks waiving Eldrid Payton, Wayne Ellington, Taj Gibson and Kenny Wooten. Knicks not picking up Portis’ option. No qualifying offer for Dotson who will become an unrestricted free agent.

    Knicks will be signing Myles Powell and bringing him into training camp.

    Lots of changes. We will have a lot of cap space.

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    Let me guess... another CAA client is MP?

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    Theo P gone too

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