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    KP was also going to be a RFA so we could have kept him for the qualifying so we weren’t forced to trade him. Mills the moron is still around since I read he’s still on the board of MSG, just when I said Knicks fans hope to never hear of him again.

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    It’s a terrible trade, but also, Tim Hardaway Sr has no reason to tell the truth. Of course, according to him, Dallas came to the Knicks wanting his son.

    KP wanted out. That’s what prompted the trade. And if we hadn’t traded him, he would have resigned us with us and then immediately demanded a trade out of town. We hired Thibodeau years too late to save our relationship with KP.

    Our franchise is super dumb for trading him while he was hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    It’s a terrible trade, but also, Tim Hardaway Sr has no reason to tell the truth. Of course, according to him, Dallas came to the Knicks wanting his son.

    KP wanted out. That’s what prompted the trade. And if we hadn’t traded him, he would have resigned us with us and then immediately demanded a trade out of town. We hired Thibodeau years too late to save our relationship with KP.

    Our franchise is super dumb for trading him while he was hurt.
    I’m inclined to believe TH Sr., KP was thought to be untouchable, restricted and still on his rookie deal so why even attempt to trade for him and bring him into trade talks. I said when the news first came out that the deal was a massive cap clearing but that for the trade to be successful we’d have to use the 70B we got. We didn’t, Mills and Perry spent it on a bunch of role players and tried to sell it to NY fans as a package of players that we would love. Not sure why Scott Perry is still here, he should be gone like Mills is after the worst trade in team history.

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    Over at P&T.com

    To that last point, many fans wondered why struggling players like Kevin Knox, Dennis Smith Jr., and Frank Ntilikina didn’t get playing time in the G League. The answer, at least according to Marc Berman of The Post, was that Perry was concerned about how such a move would be perceived.

    According to an NBA source familiar with the situation, [vice-president of player development Craig] Robinson lobbied to have the Knicks’ top prospects who weren’t getting enough NBA time to spend a few games — or weeks — in the G-League to gain rhythm and grow confidence.

    Perry rejected the notion, feeling it would be perceived as too big a demotion and felt practice time as well as being around NBA coaches was more vital, according to a source. Robinson’s counter was that during the NBA season, practice time and scrimmages are limited.

    Craig Robinson, one of Steve Mills’ Princeton buddies, is no longer with the team, but I happen to agree with him on this point. Many of the league’s best franchises, like the Raptors and Spurs, have sent their first-round picks to the G League. And who was Perry worried about offending? The players? If kids like Knox and DSJ thought they were too good for the G Leauge, they were sorely mistaken. More likely, Perry was too concerned with how such a move would like in the New York press.

    The good news is the new head coach Tom Thibodeau went out in his opening press conference and immediately made a case for sending youngsters to the G League:

    “I think game-time is important. So if a young player is not getting the appropriate amount of time to develop, we’ll utilize the G-League. That’s become an important part of our league. We’ll certainly take advantage of that.’’
    I think it’s fair to be wary of Thibs’ commitment to playing his young guys, but nobody can say the dude will be scared to make a move because how it will be perceived. Perhaps we’ll see players like Knox, Frank and DSJ in the Westchester next season.

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    My biggest question with giving G League time to guys like DSJ and Knox is will anyone teach them how to play more efficiently or is it just going to feed their egos by letting them rack up stats playing hero ball against lesser competition?

    Maybe Ntilikina could benefit from G League time but I think he probably starts for us if Payton is indeed a goner.

    Now that we have Thibs on board. I kind of want to see what he can do with these guys.

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    I criticized Fizdale when DSJ was struggling saying Fiz was an idiot and why isn't DSJ trying to find his rhythm in the Gleague rather than sitting on the bench. Looks like Perry had something to do with this.

    Another change I suggested was making player development an on court job instead of the front office one under Robinson, read thats what the Knicks want to do.

    Also said we should get guys like Vinson to develop our young guys and I read that Thibs thinks the coaching staff should have development guys if the team is a younger one like the Knicks are so I would expect his assistant coaching guys to be younger than some of the names that are rumored to be coaches.

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    Count Kemba Walker among the free agents who considered the Knicks last offseason before ultimately signing elsewhere.

    Walker, who ultimately signed a megadeal with the Boston Celtics, said the Knicks were a "very serious" contender for his services.

    "To be honest, yes, yes. Very serious," Walker said during the R2C2 podcast on The Ringer. "At one point, yes, yes. Before Boston actually came along, the Knicks was one of my top priorities, actually, because I was thinking that they were gonna get another player. But it didn't work out."

    At that point, co-host CC Sabathia jumped in and said "You made the right choice, dog!"

    Walker then expanded on the situation, but only to a point. And he wouldn't say whether the other player he thought might wind up there was Kevin Durant.

    "That's pretty much all I can say, though. The Knicks, they were definitely a priority at one point, yes," Walker added.

    Sabathia then weighed in again, saying that NBA players have interest in New York for a reason, citing Durant and Kyrie Irving winding up in Brooklyn, but that the Knicks organization is a tough sell right now.

    "Guys want to play in New York, it's just hard to play for that organization," Sabathia said.

    (Sounds to new like KD is lying then. Knicks wanted KD, said for him to pick his man... KD wants KI but Irving has to go to Nets... Knicks float Kemba option, but KD follows KI to BKLN.

    Gonna enjoy watching Nets implode next 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    I criticized Fizdale when DSJ was struggling saying Fiz was an idiot and why isn't DSJ trying to find his rhythm in the Gleague rather than sitting on the bench. Looks like Perry had something to do with this.

    Another change I suggested was making player development an on court job instead of the front office one under Robinson, read thats what the Knicks want to do.

    Also said we should get guys like Vinson to develop our young guys and I read that Thibs thinks the coaching staff should have development guys if the team is a younger one like the Knicks are so I would expect his assistant coaching guys to be younger than some of the names that are rumored to be coaches.
    Rumor mill has us hiring Kenny Payne of Kentucky as an asst coach. He's got a player development reputation with KAT praising the guy as the best player development coach anywhere. The guy has to be brilliant because the guy makes 900K a year as a college asst coach. There's supposedly some resistance to his hire because they're still paying Fiz but I don't think that's going to be a problem with Craig Robinson gone and his spot open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Rumor mill has us hiring Kenny Payne of Kentucky as an asst coach. He's got a player development reputation with KAT praising the guy as the best player development coach anywhere. The guy has to be brilliant because the guy makes 900K a year as a college asst coach. There's supposedly some resistance to his hire because they're still paying Fiz but I don't think that's going to be a problem with Craig Robinson gone and his spot open.
    Payne and Knox reunited...

    He has been on John Calipari’s staff at Kentucky since 2010 and has coached and developed many NBA big men, including New Jersey native Karl-Anthony Towns.

    In the 10 drafts of the Calipari era, 38 players have been selected in the NBA Draft, more than any other school. Included in the recent run are 29 first-round picks, three No. 1 overall selections (Towns, Anthony Davis and John Wall) and 21 lottery selections, including current Knicks forwards Julius Randle and Kevin Knox Phoenix guard Devin Booker.

    “I think it is a huge get because Woody knows the lay of the land and he can really kind of navigate it with Thibs and get him through potential pitfalls and things like that,” Fizdale said on SiriusXM NBA Radio this past week with hosts Justin Termine and Eddie Johnson.

    “You know, it’s not an easy place to work, it’s not an easy place to coach. There’s a lot of different things that swirl around the team and that’s just what comes with being the New York Knicks. And so because Woody successfully navigated that and really understands the dynamic of New York and New York City I think he’s really going to be of huge value to Thibs in that situation. And Woody can flat out coach and so that’s where he’s also going to help him is from that standpoint on his own accord.”

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