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    Alan Houston reportedly in line for a promotion in the front office when Rose is anointed the new President. Funny I mentioned Houston and getting rid of him in a house cleaning of the front office because the Knicks have had no success with him there. Rich Cho reportedly took himself out of the running for a Knicks job being happy in his role as VP of Strategy with Memphis.

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    For the first time today, I read online that Mike Woodson might get consideration for our head coaching job. Obviously, I want Thibodeau. Woodson did get a raw deal here though after being relatively successful (granted with a much better roster). Dolan might want to bring him back for that reason.

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    Kay show talked about JVG vs Thibbs on their show this afternoon.

    They said itís not even a choice.

    This is Thibs dream job and JVG desperately wants a second chance here to redeem himself...

    But, this is a YOUNG roster and has 7 draft picks next few years...

    JVG has worked with all these young players, for USA hoops.

    Thibbs has proven in the past he butts heads with young kids. Thibbs is also a taskmaster and works players hard, which the modern player doesnít appreciate.

    JVG is well-known by all, for his TV work and exposure.

    Basically, passing on JVG for Thibs would be the wrong move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Kay show talked about JVG vs Thibbs on their show this afternoon.

    They said itís not even a choice.

    This is Thibs dream job and JVG desperately wants a second chance here to redeem himself...

    But, this is a YOUNG roster and has 7 draft picks next few years...

    JVG has worked with all these young players, for USA hoops.

    Thibbs has proven in the past he butts heads with young kids. Thibbs is also a taskmaster and works players hard, which the modern player doesnít appreciate.

    JVG is well-known by all, for his TV work and exposure.

    Basically, passing on JVG for Thibs would be the wrong move.
    All fair points. JVG hasnít been an NBA coach for 13 years though. Thibs is only 1 year out of the league. Thibs coached a playoff team in 2018. JVG coached a playoff team in 2007. I canít think of any examples of guys staying away for as long as him and then coming back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    For the first time today, I read online that Mike Woodson might get consideration for our head coaching job. Obviously, I want Thibodeau. Woodson did get a raw deal here though after being relatively successful (granted with a much better roster). Dolan might want to bring him back for that reason.
    Woody not a bad coach but so so guys will not be considered. Thibs will be the leading candidate, JVG out of the game too long imo but I'd like to bring him back with Thibs as his lead guy or with JVG as the lead guy with Thibs as head coach. Thibs is a coaching lifer, heard he doesn't even have a permanent home living with his brother in Mass and LA waiting to see where he winds up before settling somewher..

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    I still remember what Thibs did in remaking Yao into a gifted low post scorer. Look at Yao as a rookie and year 3 or 4, completely different player who developed a refined post game. If Thibs could do that with Yao you have to think our young guys would develop under him, only thing like Mafra said he rode Yao hard to get the results and young guys now might not like that style of coaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    All fair points. JVG hasnít been an NBA coach for 13 years though. Thibs is only 1 year out of the league. Thibs coached a playoff team in 2018. JVG coached a playoff team in 2007. I canít think of any examples of guys staying away for as long as him and then coming back.
    Thatís not entirely true tho, b/c JVG is 13-2 as a coach for USA b-ball.

    ďUndertaking his seventh USA Basketball head coaching assignment since August 2017, former NBA head coach Jeff Van Gundy has compiled a 13-2 overall record.

    Selected to lead the USA Basketball Menís World Cup Qualifying teams, as the USA World Cup Qualifying team head mentor, Van Gundy has mentored USA World Cup Qualifying Team rosters featuring 47 different players to an 8-2 record as the USA successfully earned a qualifying berth in the 2019 FIBA World Cup.Ē

    ďVan Gundy boasts of 18 seasons of NBA coaching experience, including 11 seasons as a head coach and seven seasons as an assistant. All tallied, as a head coach he compiled an overall record of 430-318 (.575), and led teams to the NBA playoffs in nine of his 10 full seasons and posted a 44-44 all-time playoff record.ď

    Plus, heís been in broadcasting so heís been immersed in the game and expanding his knowledge ever since....

    You could also add that Thibbs proved his limitations in MIN. Got them to the playoffs then wore out his welcome. What did he do with a true franchise player in KAT?

    Thibs much better HC than what weíve had lately and our roster seems to be made for him....

    But, is JVG the smarter choice? Would Thibs burn MRob and RJ out?

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    KAT is like KP. An ego that exceeds accomplishments. Both guys expected max contracts. Both guys expected max respect. Neither guy made the team that drafted them a winner. Neither guy is even an all-star this season.

    What kind of franchise player canít even get a reserve all-star spot?

    Thibs got Minnesota to the playoffs. Hardly say he showed nothing but limitations

    That said, JVG is fine.

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    And, if I recall, KAT was the reason MIN was ousted from playoffs. Poor play?

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    The argument against Thibs is the reason Beilein quit, players did not like his overly long practices and video sessions. Mo Wagner said that was coach Beilein's style and he understood why players wouldn't like it, you would hope Thibs has toned it down before the Knicks make his hire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    The argument against Thibs is the reason Beilein quit, players did not like his overly long practices and video sessions. Mo Wagner said that was coach Beilein's style and he understood why players wouldn't like it, you would hope Thibs has toned it down before the Knicks make his hire.
    Thibs is not going to call his players ďthugsĒ.

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    Hereís another thing. Thibs was an assistant under JVG. Isnít JVG a hardass with players too?

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    Julius Randle endorsing what a great job Mike Miller has done as head coach. Randle has done much better statistically under Miller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Thibs is not going to call his players “thugs”.
    I was reading how much him calling the players thugs was so much of an issue with the players despite him walking back the remark saying he meant to say slugs. The players were taunting him by playing rap music with the word Thug in the title or lyrics. You know you lost the team when you're dissed like that. Have to hand it to Beilein though, how many guys are walking away from his deal and leaving millions on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Julius Randle endorsing what a great job Mike Miller has done as head coach. Randle has done much better statistically under Miller.
    I too wouldn't mind Miller coaching a full season next year however, Miller will need a better coaching-staff, plus a few experience veteran players on his roster next season.

    Dolan does not rehire people that quit on him .. Dolan refuse to rehire Ewing, and Dolan refuse to rehire JVG.
    Did Thibs quit or was he fired from the Knicks coaching-staff ???

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