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    I’d move DJ to the Bucks for Thon Maker and a pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    I'm pissed I have to get another avatar and sig. Thought for sure we had our Dirk in Porzingis but it wasn't to be. I will be pissed if he plays for 20 years and puts up the numbers Dirk did for Dallas. I think it's BS that he signs the QO with them so he can become an UFA in 2020. Cuban will sign him.
    KP and Doncic won’t be enough in the West and now Dallas doesn’t have 1st round picks in 2019, 2021, or 2023. They just ate 2 bad contracts from us that affect their cap space for next 2 offseasons. If Dallas doesn’t look like a winner a year from now and KP gets courted by a franchise with a brighter shining star, KP and Janis are taking their show out of Dallas.

    Also, KP might blow out his ACL again. This time for good.

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    Hopefully Dallas doesn’t somehow end up with a top 5 draft pick this year. If they do, the pick they traded to Atlanta is top 5 protected, so Atlanta gets Dallas’ 2020 pick and we get their 2022 and 2024 1st round picks, which is starting to get ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimkcchief88 View Post
    I think Knits is going to be odd man out. I’m glad CLEE and his knappy hair is gone. you are glad Timjr is gone “zero sum player” and Kiyaman will be glad KP is gone. Freed up plenty of cap space for sounds like 2 MAX free agents and we still have our #1 pick. I love it.
    Well well .. Tired-KP had enough of watching Clueless-Fizdale foolish coaching from the side lines, plus the Knicks front-office look to have plans on keeping Fizdale for another Tank-Tank season .. That thought alone, probably had KP's brother get in contact with Cuban while the Mavs visited NY LMAO !!!

    Truth be said ....
    If Tired-KP does get traded to the Mavs, then and only then will KP finally become the star-player so many Knick fans been hyping him up to be in NY. One good season under Mavs head coach Rick Carlisle's each one teach one system, plus KP having Dirk mentoring his perimeter moves n position, plus tightening up his inside game in the paint .... Yes! KP will become the 80 game played star a long-side Luka for above .500 seasons.

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    If Timmy and C.Lee get traded to the Mavs head coach Rick Carlisle system .... We Knick fans will see a new improve Tim Hardaway Jr. and Courtney Lee in Dallas ..Wow!
    This trade might prove the decade rebuilding Knicks should be called the "Mismanagement-Knicks !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Hopefully Dallas doesn’t somehow end up with a top 5 draft pick this year. If they do, the pick they traded to Atlanta is top 5 protected, so Atlanta gets Dallas’ 2020 pick and we get their 2022 and 2024 1st round picks, which is starting to get ridiculous.

    Dallas is only 5gms back of the playoffs and if #kporzee is healthy like what some were speculating, with “wonderful savvy” vets like THJR and Lee they could make a playoff push?

    Doesn’t the rule still apply he needs to get back on court in order to demand Max Money?

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    Who else thinks the Knicks are stock piling picks to trade for Anthony Davis?

    -They could trade 3 first round picks for AD and have enough cap space for two max players with him if they let Matthews and Jordan walk, since they traded away hardaway,Lee (30 mil), KP (max deal), Kanter (18 mil expiring), Noah buyout (12 mil shed), and Hezonja/baker gone (10 mil shed), they’d have barely any significant money committed to anyone next season...

    Knicks payroll was 110 million before this deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1355 View Post
    Who else thinks the Knicks are stock piling picks to trade for Anthony Davis?

    -They could trade 3 first round picks for AD and have enough cap space for two max players with him if they let Matthews and Jordan walk, since they traded away hardaway,Lee (30 mil), KP (max deal), Kanter (18 mil expiring), Noah buyout (12 mil shed), and Hezonja/baker gone (10 mil shed), they’d have barely any significant money committed to anyone next season...

    Knicks payroll was 110 million before this deal

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    I think AD became off limits if you believe his eventual goal is to go to the Lakers.
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    Perry just outright said it. They traded KP because he no longer wanted to be a Knick. All the analysts criticizing this deal “oh how can you trade away a transcendent player” need to understand that he was leaving NYC, one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Perry just outright said it. They traded KP because he no longer wanted to be a Knick. All the analysts criticizing this deal “oh how can you trade away a transcendent player” need to understand that he was leaving NYC, one way or another.
    This has to be the main motivation.... Dolan/Mills/Perry shot the Shiite last night and Cuban asked what it would take pry KP away... Perry called Demps and asked if a KP-AD deal would work... NO said no...

    Knicks calls in KP and asked him flat out... is he invested in this team? KP said nope. Mills has had enough of this nonsense from KP for 2 years ... maybe his medical more scary then people know... so they took the deal...

    Young player, cap relief, 2 first rounders... not bad for KP with 1 year left. Not great but there’s potential.

    I mean, otherwise Mills looks stupid. He signs Timmy then has to trade away his best player just to clear that contract off the books.

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    It seems Kristaps Porzingis did not like what he was seeing.

    According to Knicks president Steve Mills, the Latvian star wasn’t seeing eye to eye with management. That led to a blockbuster deal that quickly took shape, sending Porzingis to the Dallas Mavericks along with Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee and Trey Burke on Thursday for Dennis Smith Jr., a pair of first-round picks and the expiring contracts of DeAndre Jordan and Wesley Matthews.

    On a conference call Thursday evening, Mills said the 7-footer “was not completely on board with the plan we laid out. This morning he confirmed he didn’t want to be a Knick.”

    A hint, Mills said, was seeing how often Porzingis had been attending practices recently. He did not suit up for a game this season while recovering from a torn ACL, but had publicly sparred with coach David Fizdale.

    “I’m relieved that we know,” Mills said of Porzingis’ disposition. “We want to know if you’re in with us or not in with us. … There’s nothing to be angry about.”

    A source told The Post’s Marc Berman that the center had harbored ill feelings for a couple of years, leading to Thursday’s meeting and eventual trade.

    (NY Post)

    Carmelo poisoned him. But he also was a two-faced bum... just look at his family and his lifestyle. He looks more like a guy who enjoys being an NBA “Star” than a grinder who wants to be a great player. What i mean is, he is typical of the entitled generation, who don’t want to work to earn their success... they equate their potential/talent as being enough that the blessings of greatness should be bestowed upon their crown before they have to fight, struggle,battle and take their throne.

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    I’m concerned that Mills will squander this opportunity... I worry about Perry and Fizdale track record. Nothing this .org has done the last 18 years inspires confidence.

    I mean, we’re starting all over again...

    But...

    We do possess some assets:

    Knox, DSJ, Trier, Knits, MRob, Kornet, Dotson.

    We have 2019 lottery pick.
    Extra picks in 2021 & 2023.

    We have trade assets in Vonleh, Jordan, Kanter, Matthews.

    We may be starting over from scratch again....

    Maybe we whiff and fail to get a max free agent, let alone 2. OK. No big deal.

    Did you know in 2023, Knox will only be 23? Knits will be 24.

    Maybe we have to slightly overpay for a Harris or Rozier? Maybe we don’t sign anybody.

    Maybe we get Zion... are bad again and get another lottery in 2020 draft.

    I just hope we don’t sign another Amare, Noah, THjr. We don’t need to push our chips into middle of the table for b-free agents. Shoot for the best... if we whiff, sit back and plan to be a very good team come 2021-2023....

    Imagine Zion and a lottery pick in 2020. We start being a 6-8 seed team... young team come 2021... then we have 5 first rounders in 21-23... that’s valuable trade stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1355 View Post
    Who else thinks the Knicks are stock piling picks to trade for Anthony Davis?

    -They could trade 3 first round picks for AD and have enough cap space for two max players with him if they let Matthews and Jordan walk, since they traded away hardaway,Lee (30 mil), KP (max deal), Kanter (18 mil expiring), Noah buyout (12 mil shed), and Hezonja/baker gone (10 mil shed), they’d have barely any significant money committed to anyone next season...

    Knicks payroll was 110 million before this deal

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    This was a financial move to ship away a disgruntle young player that trade value may exceed his ability. I say may because we don't know that Kristaps can carry a team and stay healthy. Not going to **** on him. I'm sad to see him go, but he wanted out.

    This was a good move by the Knicks, even if they don't get the number one pick, even if they don't get one soul in free agency. There will always be a free agency year and if the Knicks are going to stink it up anyway, might as well keep payroll low until the 'right' player pops up.

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    Mills is full of his usual BS. How the guy keeps his job after giving a scrub like Baker 9M when nobody in the league was offering him the rookie minimum or that contract he gave THJ when the Hawks pegged his value at less than 50M.

    Porzingis was a rising star, an AS and the best draft pick to come along since Ewing. Losing him is going to to set them back an unquantifiable amount. Weren't they going to use him as the face of the franchise to attract other FAs? If he had seen some progress on the court as far as wins maybe they could have kept him but you had Fizdale throwing out random lineups night after night and benching his best players for young guys that didn't deserve to play ahead of the vets. Maybe Fiz should have had them rotate through the GLeague instead to get their playing time. I still don't know if Fizdale really has a strategy because it sure looks like he's tanking but who knows, all I know is the team is worse in mid season than it was in NOV.

    And that BS with Obama's brother in law that the organization has the secret sauce for player development but he could not share it because then it wouldn't be secret.

    Now after trading him the Knicks have to get real lucky and hope they have a 14% chance of getting Zion or that any top FA is going to sign when the guy they call the Unicorn isn't here to play with them. I doubt it, more likely they pay THJ money for a guy like KCP, who couldn't get more than 1 year deals from the Lakers or that procession of 1 yr players like DRose, Affalo, DWill that we've had since PJ was here and speaking of PJ how come Mills doesn't get some of the blame for that disaster, wasn't he president at the time and wasn't he in on the interview process. Perry might be a good hire but Mills has proven nothing and Porzingis had every right to say under his breath the Knicks are full of it with the record what it is.

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