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    Problem is... this could be another Blake Griffin. Forced to take Blake bc of freakish athleticism but then Westbrook and Harden get drafted

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    While the flags are there physically, one needs to also concede what the advantages are... reading into those numbers.

    1) Does the weight impact the vertical leap? Not at all. So while it may derail him eventually, it doesnít negate fact he can jump higher than mostly anybody.. by far... and can land and jump again even higher.


    2) Aside from indicating height, whatís the advantage having size 22 or 11 sneaker? He can still leap above the trees.... and even if only 6Ē5í, be a physical specimen in the paint. The flip side here is that the small feet means he is more nimble, agile, versatile, moves well laterally, and swift footed. Glides like a guard, with a quick first step.

    Zion glides on the court. Covers ground, plays with an energy that borders on ferociousness at times. Heís graceful and can beat you with power, quickness, grace coordination.

    Heís a smart, coachable, passionate, intelligent human being. He possesses the intangibles, a man truly defined as grace under pressure.

    So while the weight and measurable concern you, the sum of the parts is greater than the whole here.

    He needs to improve his dribbling and jumper. But he can pass and defend...and if heís a Barkley, or LJ, then itís a HR.

    Unfortunately, Mavs will win lottery and weíll be forced to endure Doncic, KP, and Zion for a decade
    The Mavs pick goes to ATL unless it falls in the top 5. They would have to be extraordinarily lucky just to get a top 5 pick with their record. That would be the ultimate crusher to the Knicks if they somehow wound up with the first pick after the league revamped the rules, though I bet teams that have the 9th worst record like they have have a better chance this year to get the top pick than last year.

    Getting a big name like KD is crucial when we've struggled to attract FAs here, Dolan full of hope more than anything when he says we've had conversations with a lot of players, of course he has when you have got 70M in cap space. Agents aren't going to rule out any team that can pay their clients 190M contracts.

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    Mavs have a 6pct chance of getting the top pick and a 26pct chance of getting a top 4 pick.

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    Here are the final lottery odds. Don't ignore the Hawks who have a better than 10pct chance to land Zion and will likely wind up with the Mavs pick in the 6-10 range.

    2019 NBA Draft Position Odds

    SEED NO. 1 (%) TOP 4 (%)
    1. Knicks 14.0 52.1
    T2. Suns 14.0 52.1
    T2. Cavaliers 14.0 52.1
    4. Bulls 12.5 48.1
    5. Hawks 10.5 42.1
    6. Wizards 9.0 37.2
    T7. Grizzlies* 6.0 26.2
    T7. Pelicans 6.0 26.2
    T7. Mavericks* 6.0 26.2
    10. Wolves 3.0 13.9
    11. Lakers 2.0 9.4
    T12. Hornets 1.0 4.7
    T12. Heat 1.0 4.7
    T12. Kings* 1.0 4.7
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Problem is... this could be another Blake Griffin. Forced to take Blake bc of freakish athleticism but then Westbrook and Harden get drafted

    You're speaking in terms of talent comparisons not necessarily of draft yr correct? Blake and Harden were in the draft after Westbrook. I agree with you, I do not feel Zion is a for sure talent that will best everyone in his draft class. Barrett and Ja will be great in their own right

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    I want 5 names. Almost 50% chance we get 5th pick. As long as we like 2 other guys besides Zion, Ja, and Barrett, then Iím good. I like Culver, but it seems like the enthusiasm on him grew fast and then shrunk fast.

    Anyone like Hunter in the top 5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    I want 5 names. Almost 50% chance we get 5th pick. As long as we like 2 other guys besides Zion, Ja, and Barrett, then I’m good. I like Culver, but it seems like the enthusiasm on him grew fast and then shrunk fast.

    Anyone like Hunter in the top 5?
    I said in the Zion thread RJ and Hunter greater than Culver. ESPN+ also has Garland and Hunter ahead of Culver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
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    I said in the Zion thread RJ and Hunter greater than Culver. ESPN+ also has Garland and Hunter ahead of Culver.
    Youíre thinking Zion, Ja, Barrett, Hunter, and Garland as the top 5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    The Mavs pick goes to ATL unless it falls in the top 5. They would have to be extraordinarily lucky just to get a top 5 pick with their record. That would be the ultimate crusher to the Knicks if they somehow wound up with the first pick after the league revamped the rules, though I bet teams that have the 9th worst record like they have have a better chance this year to get the top pick than last year.

    Getting a big name like KD is crucial when we've struggled to attract FAs here, Dolan full of hope more than anything when he says we've had conversations with a lot of players, of course he has when you have got 70M in cap space. Agents aren't going to rule out any team that can pay their clients 190M contracts.
    The Mavs top pick will be an un-develop KP & Burke that coach Carlisle will have both raw-players working-out a longside Doncic throughout the offseason, plus owner Cuban will sign a star FA or a 2-Way veteran roll-player FA. I will not be surprise if the Mavs start trading-players on draft night.

    The Dolan-family Mismanagement (Mills/Perry) Knicks has the 2019 Top-10 draft picks all praying hard they are not selected by the decade LOSER Knicks. Plus all the NBA 2019 star FA who had their Agents hint of signing on to the Knicks will not accept any phone calls from the Dolan-family/Mills/Perry on July 1st. .... Being a long-time Knick fan who hope each season the GM & coach make it right to go to the play-offs, which the Knicks has made the playoffs twice in two decades. All optimistic hope for the Knicks to be a .500 team has been thrown out the window !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    You’re thinking Zion, Ja, Barrett, Hunter, and Garland as the top 5?
    Unless Garland falls because of his knee injury, those are the top 5 imo.

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    Itís hard to guess, b/c we donít know whom they suspect theyíll target in free agency.

    To me, Garland and White are better options than Hunter or Culver bc this is a PG league and we need a floor general.

    However, if we think we have a shot at Kyrie or Kemba, then I suspect we donít go PG in draft.

    In this scenario, Hunter or the kid from Gonzaga make more sense... bc they are better complimentary players to KD and KI/KW

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    thank god the year is over... just imagine we get the 5th pick in the draft, and lose out on all the tier 1 FA's.... it will be like the movie groundhog's day again next year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by paris401 View Post
    thank god the year is over... just imagine we get the 5th pick in the draft, and lose out on all the tier 1 FA's.... it will be like the movie groundhog's day again next year...
    I can live with the 5th pick if we get someone the fans can get excited about. After all this hype, if we strike out in free agency, it will be a hell of a gut punch to the fan base.

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    Go Knicks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paris401 View Post
    thank god the year is over... just imagine we get the 5th pick in the draft, and lose out on all the tier 1 FA's.... it will be like the movie groundhog's day again next year...
    The higher the pick (Zion) will be the only thing Mills/Perry will have to pull a tier 1 FA (KD & Kawhi) in the off-season .. Fizdale's young-core development season didn't grab any attention from any 2019 FA's ....

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