2019 NBA Free Agency Thread
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Blazers got him for the minimum. So much for the Fizdale charisma that was going to attract FA?s when you couldn?t keep one of your guys for the minimum.
Durant and Kyrie took paycuts so the Nets could sign him. Gets more embarrassing that the Nets could not only sign one of the guys you got in the KP trade but they got their 2 stars to take less money to do it. 10M a year, the same money we?re paying Taj albeit on a shorter deal. Mills and Perry need to wear brown paper bags over their heads at the Knicks games next year, FA isn?t over but they picked up 2 guys that are probably not even top 50 in the league.
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Andre Iguodala's contract will have to be moved for the Warriors to pull off the sign-and-trade deal they've put together for D'Angelo Russell, so he's being traded to the Grizzlies.
Russell will reportedly sign a four-year, $117 million deal with the Warriors, hardcapping them, and forcing Iguodala and his contract to Memphis, along with a 2024 1-4 protected first-round pick. The pick is a protected 1 pick in 2025, and unprotected in 2026. Iguodala had a great run in Golden State, but all good things must come to an end, as his long NBA career winds down.
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Take that AI. Make fun of Knicks and you get banished to MEM!
Russell will reportedly sign a four-year, $117 million deal with the Warriors, hardcapping them, and forcing Iguodala and his contract to Memphis, along with a 2024 1-4 protected first-round pick. The pick is a protected 1 pick in 2025, and unprotected in 2026. Iguodala had a great run in Golden State, but all good things must come to an end, as his long NBA career winds down.
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Take that AI. Make fun of Knicks and you get banished to MEM!
I like Taj but I agree didn't make sense to sign him. I'm glad Boogie is sitting suffering, hope all he gets is peanuts and not from us. He tried to Scam his way to glory. I wonder how long he waits to sign this yr...LOL!
That's it .. Our Dum-Dum 3 Stooges front-office did not talk DJ into staying for two season to develop MitchRob & Randle low-post skills.
Our foolish front-office traded KP for a young low IQ Tier-3 PG DSJr .. when the best player in the entire KP trade were DJ !!!
What the hell we need Taj Gibson for ???
So far on July 1st the Knicks decision-making moves are Tank Tank Tank !!!!
Our foolish front-office traded KP for a young low IQ Tier-3 PG DSJr .. when the best player in the entire KP trade were DJ !!!
What the hell we need Taj Gibson for ???
So far on July 1st the Knicks decision-making moves are Tank Tank Tank !!!!
mafra
Legend
In justifying his ban of the Daily News, James Dolan provided one example of the coverage.
?The Porzingis trade,? the owner said on ESPN Radio. ?Those guys are like, ?Another horrible thing.? It actually wasn?t a horrible thing. And they knew it. They don?t care.?
Today (surprise, surprise), that trade serves as the biggest indictment of another plan gone to the graveyard. The Knicks, as the News wrote the day they ditched Porzingis for cap space, are a Ponzi scheme. They peddle hope, they sell hypotheticals, and they always fail at the task in front of their face.
The Porzingis trade, despite what the Knicks will tell you tomorrow, was about signing Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. They attached two albatross contracts to Porzingis in that trade ? including one Steve Mills had issued to Tim Hardaway Jr. ? because they were arrogant enough to believe winning didn?t matter in chasing free agents. They acted as if development and allure could be simply spoken into existence.
They spent two years talking about what the Nets were actually doing.
In the end, Mills didn?t even get a meeting. Durant and Irving clearly wanted to live in New York City, and they chose the Nets before free agency started. As ESPN reported, the Knicks either didn?t speak to Durant or only had a conference call. In other words, a two-year plan ended with maybe, perhaps, a phone call.
The Knicks had hired Durant?s buddy, Royal Ivey, as an assistant coach, and rolled out the red carpet for another of KD?s good friends, DeAndre Jordan. They touted their new coach, David Fizdale, as a key to attracting the biggest of superstars.
Then the day of reckoning arrived, and Knicks agreed to terms with Julius Randle and Taj Gibson. The Nets? haul consisted of Durant, Irving, and even Jordan. The Knicks are forever the bridesmaid, never the bride.
Things haven't changed much from the time New York Knicks fans were wearing bags over their heads as a display of shame in 2015.
Things haven't changed much from the time New York Knicks fans were wearing bags over their heads as a display of shame in 2015. (Elsa/Getty Images)
It wasn?t about the money for Durant because Golden State could offer the most. It certainly wasn?t about the location. It was about one franchise, the Nets, being in a better position than the Knicks.
Dolan looks like the fool, and predictably the aftermath narrative was that the Knicks were unwilling to give Durant a max contract because of his injury. That?d be understandable, even commendable, but it?s also not believable. Durant is the gamble the Knicks were always willing to take, and the post-mortem ?we didn?t want him anyway? spin feels icky. Just more pettiness. If Durant wanted the Knicks, it would?ve happened no matter the price. It would?ve given the Knicks another press conference and they?re great at winning press conferences.
Instead, the Nets will tout their big victory ? and their big gamble on Durant?s fragile Achilles ? while the Knicks are left pumping up their acquisition of Randle for $63 million.
It was the owner ? not Mills ? who confidently declared the Knicks would have a successful free agency. But Dolan was simply relaying what he heard, and he listens to Mills more than anybody else in the organization. Sixteen years ago, it was on Mills? recommendation that Isiah Thomas became coach of the Knicks.
Two years ago, Mills usurped Phil Jackson as team president by convincing Dolan he could change the perception of the Knicks.
That was never a harder sell than Sunday when Mills, empty-handed, was essentially apologizing to fans.
?While we understand that some Knicks fans could be disappointed with tonight?s news, we continue to be upbeat,? Mills said in a statement, ?and confident in our plans to rebuild the Knicks to compete for championships in the future, through the draft, targeted free agents and continuing to build around our core of young players.?
Mills inherited one star player, Porzingis, but couldn?t get the Latvian to believe the Knicks were headed in the right direction. That?s another indictment on Mills.
Like Durant and Irving, Porzingis wanted New York. He just didn?t want the Knicks.
The 23-year-old demanded a trade in January and listed the Nets as a preference. On Sunday, he turned that trade into a four-year, $158 million deal with the Mavericks, proving that a team not on Porzingis? list could sell him on a future.
(NY Daily News)
?The Porzingis trade,? the owner said on ESPN Radio. ?Those guys are like, ?Another horrible thing.? It actually wasn?t a horrible thing. And they knew it. They don?t care.?
Today (surprise, surprise), that trade serves as the biggest indictment of another plan gone to the graveyard. The Knicks, as the News wrote the day they ditched Porzingis for cap space, are a Ponzi scheme. They peddle hope, they sell hypotheticals, and they always fail at the task in front of their face.
The Porzingis trade, despite what the Knicks will tell you tomorrow, was about signing Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. They attached two albatross contracts to Porzingis in that trade ? including one Steve Mills had issued to Tim Hardaway Jr. ? because they were arrogant enough to believe winning didn?t matter in chasing free agents. They acted as if development and allure could be simply spoken into existence.
They spent two years talking about what the Nets were actually doing.
In the end, Mills didn?t even get a meeting. Durant and Irving clearly wanted to live in New York City, and they chose the Nets before free agency started. As ESPN reported, the Knicks either didn?t speak to Durant or only had a conference call. In other words, a two-year plan ended with maybe, perhaps, a phone call.
The Knicks had hired Durant?s buddy, Royal Ivey, as an assistant coach, and rolled out the red carpet for another of KD?s good friends, DeAndre Jordan. They touted their new coach, David Fizdale, as a key to attracting the biggest of superstars.
Then the day of reckoning arrived, and Knicks agreed to terms with Julius Randle and Taj Gibson. The Nets? haul consisted of Durant, Irving, and even Jordan. The Knicks are forever the bridesmaid, never the bride.
Things haven't changed much from the time New York Knicks fans were wearing bags over their heads as a display of shame in 2015.
Things haven't changed much from the time New York Knicks fans were wearing bags over their heads as a display of shame in 2015. (Elsa/Getty Images)
It wasn?t about the money for Durant because Golden State could offer the most. It certainly wasn?t about the location. It was about one franchise, the Nets, being in a better position than the Knicks.
Dolan looks like the fool, and predictably the aftermath narrative was that the Knicks were unwilling to give Durant a max contract because of his injury. That?d be understandable, even commendable, but it?s also not believable. Durant is the gamble the Knicks were always willing to take, and the post-mortem ?we didn?t want him anyway? spin feels icky. Just more pettiness. If Durant wanted the Knicks, it would?ve happened no matter the price. It would?ve given the Knicks another press conference and they?re great at winning press conferences.
Instead, the Nets will tout their big victory ? and their big gamble on Durant?s fragile Achilles ? while the Knicks are left pumping up their acquisition of Randle for $63 million.
It was the owner ? not Mills ? who confidently declared the Knicks would have a successful free agency. But Dolan was simply relaying what he heard, and he listens to Mills more than anybody else in the organization. Sixteen years ago, it was on Mills? recommendation that Isiah Thomas became coach of the Knicks.
Two years ago, Mills usurped Phil Jackson as team president by convincing Dolan he could change the perception of the Knicks.
That was never a harder sell than Sunday when Mills, empty-handed, was essentially apologizing to fans.
?While we understand that some Knicks fans could be disappointed with tonight?s news, we continue to be upbeat,? Mills said in a statement, ?and confident in our plans to rebuild the Knicks to compete for championships in the future, through the draft, targeted free agents and continuing to build around our core of young players.?
Mills inherited one star player, Porzingis, but couldn?t get the Latvian to believe the Knicks were headed in the right direction. That?s another indictment on Mills.
Like Durant and Irving, Porzingis wanted New York. He just didn?t want the Knicks.
The 23-year-old demanded a trade in January and listed the Nets as a preference. On Sunday, he turned that trade into a four-year, $158 million deal with the Mavericks, proving that a team not on Porzingis? list could sell him on a future.
(NY Daily News)
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Legend
DSJ, Knits, Knox, RJ, MRob, Randle, Portis, Trier, Dotson...
6 first rounder next 4 years...
Another lottery pick is possible..
No bad contracts...
Hard to kill Perry. This is now officially his team... all things considered, he did a good job quickly.
This is what Marks did in NJ. If this NYK team wins 40 games next year... the narrative will change quickly.
6 first rounder next 4 years...
Another lottery pick is possible..
No bad contracts...
Hard to kill Perry. This is now officially his team... all things considered, he did a good job quickly.
This is what Marks did in NJ. If this NYK team wins 40 games next year... the narrative will change quickly.
mafra
Legend
?Back in 2017, Durant was asked when he was going to sign with the Knicks, and he immediately shouted back, ?Never!?
That video resurfaced on Sunday as Durant announced his commitment to the Brooklyn Nets.
He?s a man of his word ? Knicks fans should have known this was going to happen.?
That video resurfaced on Sunday as Durant announced his commitment to the Brooklyn Nets.
He?s a man of his word ? Knicks fans should have known this was going to happen.?
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Legend
?They just have to stick to their plan,?? said one NBA source close to the Knicks. ?The team needs some patience to build the team the right way. If you can?t catch a break, you got to stay the course.??
With 25 mil left in cap space, Knicks don?t have enough got Kawhi...
So, another free agency period where NY can?t even score a meeting with legitimate max guys.
No more!
Unless Knicks build it through draft and shrewd moves... it ain?t turning around.
And, let?s be honest, if RJ and Mitch and DSJ ain?t the answer, we won?t be relevant until 2028.
We need RJ to be a HOF talent, Mitch and dSJ to be all star type...
If not, either Randle, Knox or Portis better be. There?s a chance with this group...
We?ll see.
After Kawhi signs and people take LAK money... we?ll find out what?s left for us.
With 25 mil left in cap space, Knicks don?t have enough got Kawhi...
So, another free agency period where NY can?t even score a meeting with legitimate max guys.
No more!
Unless Knicks build it through draft and shrewd moves... it ain?t turning around.
And, let?s be honest, if RJ and Mitch and DSJ ain?t the answer, we won?t be relevant until 2028.
We need RJ to be a HOF talent, Mitch and dSJ to be all star type...
If not, either Randle, Knox or Portis better be. There?s a chance with this group...
We?ll see.
After Kawhi signs and people take LAK money... we?ll find out what?s left for us.
mafra
Legend
Ok. Knicks can?t be accused of tanking anymore.
All 2 year deals... almost at our floor now.
Still have about 13 mil to play with, if we wanted.
I think they added some post scoring and 3-point shooting.
Bullock, Mitch and Taj can cover when
Team needs defense. RJ and Randle and dSJ should handle offensive load.
Portis and Bullock and Dotson drilling 3s.
We should be deep, too.
Fizdale on notice now. Rotation and development will be what he?s judged on. This should be a 35-40 win team... if not, Fizdale better show something as to why he gets a third year.
This is a real NBA team now. Let?s see if we can be competitive.
All 2 year deals... almost at our floor now.
Still have about 13 mil to play with, if we wanted.
I think they added some post scoring and 3-point shooting.
Bullock, Mitch and Taj can cover when
Team needs defense. RJ and Randle and dSJ should handle offensive load.
Portis and Bullock and Dotson drilling 3s.
We should be deep, too.
Fizdale on notice now. Rotation and development will be what he?s judged on. This should be a 35-40 win team... if not, Fizdale better show something as to why he gets a third year.
This is a real NBA team now. Let?s see if we can be competitive.
I have to agree, a complete makeover of a 17 win team.
This is Perry's team and if we don't see a substantial improvement in the win/loss record you have to question Perry's ability to construct a team with the amount of cap space we had and the number of quality free agents that were available.
None of these guys including Randle look to have franchise player promise that Porzingis had, but at least Perry has turned over the roster so we have a chance to at least win some games and be competitive next season.