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    Knicks signed:

    Julius Randle
    Taj Gibson
    Bobby “KO “Portis
    Reggie Bullock
    Wayne Ellington
    Elfred Payton

    They maintain cap flexibility for summer of 2021...

    Have young core of DSJ, RJ, Mitch, Knox, Dotson, and have Knitiklina as trade bait...

    They also have 6 first round picks next 4 drafts.

    Isn’t this the correct way to build a roster?

    5 kids plus Knits
    6 free agents
    A few unknowns in Allen, Iggy, Wilks

    This is your 2019-2020 team.

    Compete boys!

    Don’t screw around Fizdale with a multitude of rotations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    I feel like we built a team to keep us in the lottery for the next 2 seasons.

    I’m excited for Summer League though.

    I like our signings although the Payton signing signifies we may not trust DSJ and most certainly don't with Knits. Actually so do some of the other signings. Knox and Trier better feel like they're on notice

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    lol Hezonja tried to follow Kanter to PDX and then look what happened





    Boston didn't take too big of hits, they recovered relatively quickly. Probably a Top 4 team in East, might need to make 1 more move. Got Kanter real cheap.

    This is probably what Boogie is looking at unless the Lakers and Clippers can save him

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    I think bulging disc issue in back has us concerned about DSJ.

    Nobody has earned anything on this roster.

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    Kanter got less than Gibson. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Kanter got less than Gibson. Lol.
    Kanter is only worth 5 million per year for 2 years? He averaged a double double, more or less. Dude’s trolling may have caught up with him. His comments on why he didn’t resign with Portland are kind of hilarious.

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    I wonder what it says about our infrastructure if Jordan want more vocal trying to sway Kyrie to pick Knicks. If KD wanted MSG but Irving swayed KD to choose Brooklyn, what was DeAndre’s input here? Did it matter? Did he say we suck?

    Anyway... I’m actually glad we don’t have to root for KD and KI... 2 dudes hard to root for.

    Good news is this won’t end well regardless. If they win they’ll find out nobody cares about Nets... if they don’t win, media will eat them alive. Sit back and enjoy...

    And, I’ll say this now, Knicks will be better than Nets this season.

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    Turns out Mills dealt KP bc KP didn’t want to meet with Mills... he only wanted to meet with Dolan.

    SAS says LAC believe they’re getting Kawhi .

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    If what I’m reading is correct, all our free agent deals are team options in the last year. That means all those two year contracts (every contract except Randle) can come off the books next offseason by declining the team option. We can re-open almost all our cap space again in the 2020 offseason. We can get Randle off the books in 2021 offseason.

    We have a roster that can be very fluid now. Easily tradeable contracts if something arises where we find a team that wants to move salary for the next 2 offseasons.
    Last edited by htr10; Jul 01, 2019 at 16:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Knicks signed:

    Julius Randle
    Taj Gibson
    Bobby “KO “Portis
    Reggie Bullock
    Wayne Ellington
    Elfred Payton

    They maintain cap flexibility for summer of 2021...

    Have young core of DSJ, RJ, Mitch, Knox, Dotson, and have Knitiklina as trade bait...

    They also have 6 first round picks next 4 drafts.

    Isn’t this the correct way to build a roster?

    5 kids plus Knits
    6 free agents
    A few unknowns in Allen, Iggy, Wilks

    This is your 2019-2020 team.

    Compete boys!

    Don’t screw around Fizdale with a multitude of rotations!
    I think you said 35-40 win team. I agree, 8th seed playoff team at best, lottery team with the 8th worst record at the worst. Not one star in the whole bunch, or one stud athlete among the new guys. Fizdale predicted we were going to have an amazing season, he better get going because he's got his work cut out with this group.

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    I do know they wanted to preserve cap space for 2021, when Giannis is up. There’s nobody worthwhile next summer.... so I imagine, barring a trade, this is our team next 2 years:

    DSJ/Payton
    RJ/Dotson/Trier/Ellington/Knits
    Bullock/Knox/Iggy/Wilks
    Randle/Portis
    MRob/Taj

    I see a well-balanced roster with potential. No star, but with gritty vets, former lottery picks and potential stud prospects... if coached properly and they buy into a team system... no reason we can’t be this year’s version of what Nets were last year...

    Battle for 7-8 seed and show NBA we have talent.

    Or... Randle and DSJ flop, Mitch a liability despite the blocks and RJ an inefficient checker... Knox a Knits flop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Knicks signed:

    Julius Randle
    Taj Gibson
    Bobby “KO “Portis
    Reggie Bullock
    Wayne Ellington
    Elfred Payton

    They maintain cap flexibility for summer of 2021...

    Have young core of DSJ, RJ, Mitch, Knox, Dotson, and have Knitiklina as trade bait...

    They also have 6 first round picks next 4 drafts.

    Isn’t this the correct way to build a roster?

    5 kids plus Knits
    6 free agents
    A few unknowns in Allen, Iggy, Wilks

    This is your 2019-2020 team.

    Compete boys!

    Don’t screw around Fizdale with a multitude of rotations!
    TANK TANK TANK .. The Knicks Black Front Office Shiiited in their pants on July 1st. And it STINKS awful !!!

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    While the Knicks had hoped they would land Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving in free agency, the two superstar free agents reportedly knew "months ago" they would not join the Knicks, according to Bleacher Report's Howard Beck.

    Durant and Irving agreed to sign four-year max contracts with the Brooklyn Nets on Sunday, a move that prompted Knicks president Steve Mills, who cleared enough cap space for two max free agent slots with the Kristaps Porzingis trade, to release a statement empathizing with "disappointed" fans.

    The two superstars knew prior to the 2018-19 season that they would be teaming up this summer, Beck writes.


    The two of them previously discussed teaming up with the Knicks, with SNY's Ian Begley hearing throughout the season that they were at the top of their desired wish list. However their poor season that led them to the NBA's worst record impacted their views, according to Beck.

    "And neither Irving nor Durant were eager to wear the 'savior' mantle that's thrust upon every star player, coach or executive who lands at Madison Square Garden," Beck wrote.

    In fact, Durant "never considered going to the Knicks alone," according to Beck.

    Instead, they chose the Nets, who went from a 20-win team in 2016-17 to a 42-win team that made the playoffs last year. One of thosee reasons: GM Sean Marks.

    "The stars were impressed by Marks, a San Antonio Spurs disciple who favors a low-key, no-nonsense, egoless management style," Beck wrote.

    Durant's Achilles injury, which he suffered during Game 5 of the NBA Finals and will likely keep him out for the 2019-20 season, had no impact on their decision, as Beck writes the two of them had an "outline of a plan" in place prior to the playoffs.

    Instead of landing two players who have combined for three NBA titles and 16 All-Star Game appearances, the Knicks have turned their attention elsewhere. They agreed to terms with Julius Randle (three years, $63 million), Taj Gibson (two years, $20 million), Bobby Portis (two years, $31 million), Wayne Ellington (two years, $16 million) and Elfrid Peyton (two years, $16 million).

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    Durant has an extensive history of soft-tissue injuries, from calf and hamstring strains to ankle sprains. He missed most of the 2014-15 season because of a broken foot and then played 72, 62 and 68 games over the next three seasons.

    According to [Jeff] Stotts’ database, Durant has missed 103 regular-season games with lower-extremity injuries, including the broken foot, ankle sprains on both sides, a left knee sprain and various other strains.

    “He is injury-prone,” said the doctor. “How can we not say that at this point?”
    Even if Kevin Durant didn’t lose too much of a step, he likely would have been on a minutes restriction and would not have been able to carry the Knicks. Beck writes:

    “He’s not going to be an 82-game-a-year guy,” said a doctor working for another NBA team. “I always say that they can be the same player in smaller doses. So, fewer minutes, fewer games. You will see flashes. The sustained greatness is really, really tough.”

    Durant, the doctor said, “can still be a really, really great player. But it’s going to be in 28 minutes, and it’s going to be not in back-to-backs. And it’s going to be saving himself for the playoffs.”



    Kyrie has been plagued by bouts of knee soreness and pain dating to the 2015 playoffs. He missed the 2018 playoffs and required a pair of surgeries after the screws in his left knee had caused an infection. Can you say load maintenance?

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    Not too long ago, the Nets were in an even worse position than the Knicks are in now. In the infamous trade with the Celtics, Brooklyn traded three first-round picks in exchange for an aging Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, and Jason Terry. Within two years, every player from the trade was gone, and the Nets had nothing to show for it but early playoff exits. Frankly, the Nets sucked — and they weren’t even able to tank because they didn’t own their first-round picks.


    The Nets only had one option — take chances on as many guys as possible, accumulate as many assets as possible, and try to see if they could acquire some future pieces by the time they got their picks back. They traded Thaddeus Young for the pick that became Caris LeVert. They signed Joe Harris and Spencer Dinwiddie, who were in danger of falling out of the league entirely. They traded Bojan Bogdanovic for a first-round pick that became Jarrett Allen. They traded Brook Lopez and took on the contract of Timofey Mozgov to take a shot at D’Angelo Russell. They took on Demarre Carroll for two picks, which became Dzanan Musa and Rodions Kurucs.

    There were also countless players they acquired who didn’t pan out, like Jahlil Okafor, Chris McCullough, and Anthony Bennett. All you can do is take a chance on guys and hope some become good, all while developing a good culture.

    To win in the NBA, you need a superstar. But you don’t necessarily need to develop that superstar. You just need to attract one. The Nets weren’t world-beaters. Russell was an injury-replacement All-Star. The Nets simply became good enough to the point where they were attractive to Durant and Irving. The Nets’ process was about four or five years long. The Knicks are essentially one year into rebuilding the “right way.” The worst team in the league truly shouldn’t have been in the running for players of this level to begin with. The fact the Knicks seemingly had a chance at all is a win.

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