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    What irks me about Fiz is where is the Frank, Dotson, RJ, Knox, MRob lineup? Let those 5 play serious minutes together.

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    KP, Frank, Dotson, Knox and Robinson are all drafted by that Lazy Phil. Think he was trying to destroy a team. What Knicks fan would like to have that team on the floor? Well the problem is that no consistency in getting those last 4 on the floor no matter what happen. That will built on the other 'C' word Chemistry.

    Why is it that we fail in F.A. but we did so well in the draft? Well, WE DIDN'T!! If you play RJ all those outlandish minutes he playing. He should put up numbers. Now does he move the needle? NO!! Does he make other around him better? No!!(couldn't even make a lead bound pass to Frank on a break the other night). I have spoke of odd pieces(players) on this team. RJ is a odd piece. Has RJ had a game like the kids Walker and White? Making a string of 3's and exciting the crowd? NO!! He is not a super star and isn't going to be one. He is an average player at best. Let trade RJ while the hype is high to Magic for Issac.

    CP is 34 years old and some seriously consider that move. D. Rose is 31 and would be better for Frank. I don't understand the reasoning behind CP move. Getting a vet PG is IMO to late. Just put the above mention players and Morris on the floor and inject Trier, Ellington and Bobby into the mix. That an 8 man rotation and with a trade of RJ, DSJ and Randle that could bring us Issac, Porter Jr. and Jaxon Hayes & Walker.

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    S. Bondy:

    If the New York Knicks part ways with Steve Mills and Scott Perry, they have already been linked to Masai Ujiri, but they could also pursue Sam Presti to run their front office.

    James Dolan has long had interest in Ujiri. Frank Isola of The Athletic reported this week that the Knicks again have interest in Ujiri.

    Presti has been general manager of the Oklahoma City Thunder since 2007. Presti is entering into a transitional phase with the Thunder after trading away both Paul George and Russell Westbrook this past offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    S. Bondy:

    If the New York Knicks part ways with Steve Mills and Scott Perry, they have already been linked to Masai Ujiri, but they could also pursue Sam Presti to run their front office.

    James Dolan has long had interest in Ujiri. Frank Isola of The Athletic reported this week that the Knicks again have interest in Ujiri.

    Presti has been general manager of the Oklahoma City Thunder since 2007. Presti is entering into a transitional phase with the Thunder after trading away both Paul George and Russell Westbrook this past offseason.
    I was a big Sam Presti guy a couple years ago. Now, I’m not so sure. Lots of things went wrong in OKC.

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    ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski on the Knicks - “He is not safe. His job is very much in peril right now. This is a Knicks team that is in somewhat of a spiral... The dismissal of David Fizdale is inevitable. There was a bond broken between management and their head coach.”

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    Who should be the backup C?

    Portis or Gibson?

    Taj Gibson: How the little things can make a big difference

    The vet has made a strong case to be the Knicks’ backup center

    By Knicks Nuance Nov 13, 2019, 2:30pm EST

    Which brings us nicely onto Taj Gibson. The 34 year old, even in his prime with the Chicago Bulls, was never more than a high-end role player. Taj was molded by former Chicago Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau, in an ecosystem that demands a strict adherence to defensive fundamentals. Gibson will be making on-time weakside rotations well after he retires, through sheer force of habit. ​

    It’s not news that Gibson is a significantly better defensive player than Portis, but he also has quiet offensive virtues that make him a neater fit in Fizdale’s system.

    So far this season, the Knicks run the most off-ball screens in the league, but are 28th in the NBA in points per possession — 0.75 — off these plays (per NBA.com Synergy Advanced Stats). Screening is an under-appreciated and under-publicized NBA skill, and in a screen-heavy Knicks offense, elite screen-setters stand to have a big impact.​

    In limited minutes this season, Gibson has been a devastating screener. According to NBA.com hustle stats, the veteran is averaging an impressive 5.9 screen assists — leading to 13.3 points — per 36 minutes. This mark is by far the highest on the roster, notably dwarfs Portis’ 2.2 screen assists — good for five points — per 36 minutes. ​

    The Brooklyn native also — whilst we’re on the subject of under-the-radar fundamentals — leads the team in box-outs per 36 minutes at 8.7. Portis is right behind him, with 6.4 box-outs per 36 minutes. Good screens and consistent box-outs. Elbow jumpers and hard rolls to the rim. A general sense of industry, of calming competence, of hard-earned experience. These are the blue-collar specialties of Taj Gibson, the epitome of a steadying role player.

    (Where art thou Kurt Thomas)

    This is not (entirely) an indictment of Portis’ game as much as a recognition of Gibson’s. There is value in finding him more minutes; for his fit on this roster, in Fizdale’s screen heavy system, paired up for the most part with a talented, but defensively-limited frontcourt partner in Julius Randle. The reality, with Portis, is that he’s a gunner. Capable of blink-quick scoring bursts, but also one-dimensional and inconsistent. On this Knick team, perhaps, Bobby is better utilized as an ad-hoc energizer, deployed sparingly.

    Gibson is short of a great basketball player, or even at this stage of his career a very good one. His game will not raise the ceiling of this Knicks team, but it will raise the floor. Having started the season 2-8, and having been on the wrong end of some truly painful blowouts already, this team cannot turn down the opportunity at an incremental bump in collective competence.

    Portis will win one in every ten games by himself, as we saw in his vengeful outburst against the Bulls earlier this season. Gibson will do the dirty work — the little things — to help his team win every night.

    aj is at the tail end of a career spent in the NBA trenches. Gibson is battle-tested, and probably a little deaf after eight seasons of being berated by a gruff-baritone Thibodeau, whose heart beats for defensive minutia. One thing he doesn’t need is minutes on a rebuilding Knicks team to validate his 11 years in the NBA so far. There were, no doubt, 10 million other more persuasive reasons he chose New York in free agency this past summer.

    Either way, the Knicks sure could do with utilizing another player who does the little things, that — piled up over a quarter, a game, a season — can make a big difference.

    https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2019/11/13/20957605/taj-gibson-how-the-little-things-can-make-a-big-difference
    Last edited by mafra; Nov 13, 2019 at 23:35.

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    I think it is time to admit that there is zero hope for the Knicks to ever become a winning organization.Dolan and MSG stockholders could give less of a damn about what happens on the court as long as the Knicks continue to be the number 1 money making franchise in the NBA.

    You can’t really blame Dolan when it is all a business.If any of us had to choose between making a billion dollars or watching the Knicks make the playoffs every year I am sure that we would sign up for the former without hesitation.I would sell my left nut to be rich off of the Knicks but I would have second thoughts of doing the same thing for a Knicks championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Who should be the backup C?

    Portis or Gibson?

    Taj Gibson: How the little things can make a big difference

    The vet has made a strong case to be the Knicks’ backup center

    By Knicks Nuance Nov 13, 2019, 2:30pm EST

    Which brings us nicely onto Taj Gibson. The 34 year old, even in his prime with the Chicago Bulls, was never more than a high-end role player. Taj was molded by former Chicago Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau, in an ecosystem that demands a strict adherence to defensive fundamentals. Gibson will be making on-time weakside rotations well after he retires, through sheer force of habit. ​

    It’s not news that Gibson is a significantly better defensive player than Portis, but he also has quiet offensive virtues that make him a neater fit in Fizdale’s system.

    So far this season, the Knicks run the most off-ball screens in the league, but are 28th in the NBA in points per possession — 0.75 — off these plays (per NBA.com Synergy Advanced Stats). Screening is an under-appreciated and under-publicized NBA skill, and in a screen-heavy Knicks offense, elite screen-setters stand to have a big impact.​

    In limited minutes this season, Gibson has been a devastating screener. According to NBA.com hustle stats, the veteran is averaging an impressive 5.9 screen assists — leading to 13.3 points — per 36 minutes. This mark is by far the highest on the roster, notably dwarfs Portis’ 2.2 screen assists — good for five points — per 36 minutes. ​

    The Brooklyn native also — whilst we’re on the subject of under-the-radar fundamentals — leads the team in box-outs per 36 minutes at 8.7. Portis is right behind him, with 6.4 box-outs per 36 minutes. Good screens and consistent box-outs. Elbow jumpers and hard rolls to the rim. A general sense of industry, of calming competence, of hard-earned experience. These are the blue-collar specialties of Taj Gibson, the epitome of a steadying role player.

    (Where art thou Kurt Thomas)

    This is not (entirely) an indictment of Portis’ game as much as a recognition of Gibson’s. There is value in finding him more minutes; for his fit on this roster, in Fizdale’s screen heavy system, paired up for the most part with a talented, but defensively-limited frontcourt partner in Julius Randle. The reality, with Portis, is that he’s a gunner. Capable of blink-quick scoring bursts, but also one-dimensional and inconsistent. On this Knick team, perhaps, Bobby is better utilized as an ad-hoc energizer, deployed sparingly.

    Gibson is short of a great basketball player, or even at this stage of his career a very good one. His game will not raise the ceiling of this Knicks team, but it will raise the floor. Having started the season 2-8, and having been on the wrong end of some truly painful blowouts already, this team cannot turn down the opportunity at an incremental bump in collective competence.

    Portis will win one in every ten games by himself, as we saw in his vengeful outburst against the Bulls earlier this season. Gibson will do the dirty work — the little things — to help his team win every night.

    aj is at the tail end of a career spent in the NBA trenches. Gibson is battle-tested, and probably a little deaf after eight seasons of being berated by a gruff-baritone Thibodeau, whose heart beats for defensive minutia. One thing he doesn’t need is minutes on a rebuilding Knicks team to validate his 11 years in the NBA so far. There were, no doubt, 10 million other more persuasive reasons he chose New York in free agency this past summer.

    Either way, the Knicks sure could do with utilizing another player who does the little things, that — piled up over a quarter, a game, a season — can make a big difference.

    https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2...big-difference

    Taj Gibson was a great pick-up .. Yes, Gibson's 10 yr experience belong in the Knicks starter lineup over Randle's weak performance, and Portis inconsistent performance. Hopefully, when MitchRob return Gibson's skills/talent would be put alongside Mitch in the starter lineup as the Knicks PF.
    The Knicks front-office should've gave DeAndre Jordan the $30M contract they gave to Portis in the off-season, to start the 2019-20 Knicks season having some playoff experience players in the starter lineup. Plus the growth of all the Knicks young-core players performance would grow having a 11 yr experience DJ, and a 10 yr experience Gibson in the locker-room.
    Morris was a great pick-up .. Yes, Morris performance belong in the Knicks starter lineup, plus to guide 2nd season Knox as backup.

    Randle's performance turned-out to be a big problem on both sides of the court .. his team-ballin are poor .. he dont picknroll, he dont screen or box-out a defender for any of his teammates. he's a poor one one defender, he slow getting back on defense, plus he's a poor passer when ever he grab a defensive-rebound. And as a point-forward Randle has to be the worst ever in the NBA.
    Fizdale's judgement to let Randle bring the ball up more than Frank the past two games, and DSJ too .. need to be removed asap.
    We have 19 - 74 record head-coach Fizdale calling the shots ........

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    In a nut shell this is how bad we are yet Fiz clings to that notion Randle is a bigger James Harden and puts DSJ on the floor when anyone else but him even Randle would be a better PG, and he has the nerve not to send him to the GLeague to let him get a rhythm down there instead of blowing games when they count. The guy has to go ASAP.

    The Knicks are 30th in offensive rating, 23rd in defensive rating, 30th in net rating, 26th in pace, 29th in true shooting percentage, 29th in effective field goal percentage, 27th in assist rate, 23rd in 3-point attempt rate, and 25th in opponent effective field goal percentage. These are not hallmarks of a well-coached team. Yes, the roster is clunky and not very good, but the expectations, at least from fans, weren’t very high. Expecting the team to be improved from last year and not lose half their games by double digits isn’t a high standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    In a nut shell this is how bad we are yet Fiz clings to that notion Randle is a bigger James Harden and puts DSJ on the floor when anyone else but him even Randle would be a better PG, and he has the nerve not to send him to the GLeague to let him get a rhythm down there instead of blowing games when they count. The guy has to go ASAP.

    The Knicks are 30th in offensive rating, 23rd in defensive rating, 30th in net rating, 26th in pace, 29th in true shooting percentage, 29th in effective field goal percentage, 27th in assist rate, 23rd in 3-point attempt rate, and 25th in opponent effective field goal percentage. These are not hallmarks of a well-coached team. Yes, the roster is clunky and not very good, but the expectations, at least from fans, weren’t very high. Expecting the team to be improved from last year and not lose half their games by double digits isn’t a high standard.

    After beating Dallas again to give us fans some hope, I'm glad the next two games (5-7 Hornets & 4-7 Cavs) are at MSG, where Dolan will show his presence at both games .. Dolan will do the front-office job of firing Fizdale if he have another LOSS in MSG.

    I'm aware of the Knicks Board-meeting Dolan has to attend for the stock holders, their judgement of the above Knicks rating are something they would expect from a Interim head-coach, not a NBA head coach in his 2nd season.

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    To all in this forum. Tell me what you think of the reason or reasons for stopping media access to Fiz this past summer? Please everybody give me your thoughts because I think that is a BIG cause of the problems we see now in this team.

    Last night game against the Hornets and Randle taking the last shot. Is he sending a message to the FO that this your 60 million dollar man and I put him into position to win this game and games in the future. You(FO) sign him this is the results. I'll play anybody you want me to play.

    Started to make a new thread but figured this was just as good. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.....

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    Truly, that Mills is considering firing someone for being bad at their job is a jaw-dropping, laughable, and kind of nauseating act of high-end hypocrisy. This guy a walking, talking, finger-pointing violation of NBA darwinism.

    Mills has had various roles — and a strong voice — within the Knicks’ power structure since 2003, when he was appointed president of Madison Square Garden Sports. Outside of a four-year hiatus from the franchise from 2009 through 2013 — which we’ll talk about later — Mills’ fingerprints are all over the Knicks’ perennial floundering.

    Only a handful of executives in the NBA have served the team they are with now as long as Mills has been with the Knicks. Pat Riley joined Miami in 1995; RC Buford joined the Spurs in 2002; John Paxson and Danny Ainge joined the Bulls’ and Celtics’ front offices, respectively, in 2003.


    Mills, then, is one of the longest-tenured execs in the NBA. This is notable, given the Knicks have had 12 losing seasons in the 12 seasons that Mills has been employed in the front office. Twelve seasons and counting, that is. For comparison, his contemporaries — Riley, Buford, Paxson and Ainge — have presided over 59 winning seasons out of the 73 seasons their teams have played during their respective tenures.


    Granted, Mills was not always the definitive voice in the front office during these 12 losing seasons, but he — besides Dolan — is the only constant. His is the most enduring voice and influence during a decade-plus timeframe that literally could not have been worse. The fact that during his hiatus from 2009-13 — when he worked for Magic Johnson’s Wealth Management Group — the Knicks not only had winning seasons, but made the playoffs three out of those four seasons, speaks to how much of a hex Mills has been at MSG this century.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pos...accountability

    That he is one of the worst performing executives in NBA history shouldn’t be surprising, given he is arguably one of the least qualified to do the job. The majority of current league execs have a background in either playing professionally, coaching, scouting; or a combination of the three. Of the 30 leading front office executives in the league — the guys with current final say — 25 of them had specific experience in one or more of these professions prior to landing the top job.


    The other five are: Daryl Morey, who has had the Rockets over .500 every year since 2007; Bob Myers and Rob Pelinka, who both had 10-plus year careers as NBA player agents; Zach Kleiman, the new Memphis Grizzlies GM, who is a 30-year-old front office prodigy in his first year of the job; and Steve Mills.

    Mills has vast experience and expertise in the business of basketball, working for the NBA and then the Knicks, but outside of one year playing professionally in Ecuador, he’s never played, he’s never coached, and he’s never worked exclusively as a scout. And, shocker: he’s never won. His virtues are in navigating the baffling byzantine corporate edifice that governs MSG — not player evaluation, not X’s and O’s, not salary cap management. And the results have somewhat brutally borne this out.

    Add all this up, and, incredibly, Steve Mills is one of the longest-serving, least successful, least-qualified executives in NBA history — and he still has a job.

    Not only does he still have a job, he has the gall — the flat out stones — to hold a press conference and preach accountability after 10 games of a season, after over 10 years of literally unprecedented incompetence without consequence.

    In a way, Steve Mills is the most successful executive in NBA history. Because, in a harshly results-based profession, he is apparently immune to the repercussions of consistently diabolical results. Because he is still employed. Because he is living in an extremely fragile glass house, in a typhoon of dysfunction, throwing bricks at the walls, and he is still cashing checks.

    He is the basketball equivalent of rust. Or mold. Or something similarly stubborn and destructive. Once it’s there, it is seemingly impossible to get rid of, and tends to lead to a general and inevitable decay.

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    I agree about Mills.

    How about why no access to Fiz after the draft and F.A. What was or is the problem or problems. I know you don't know exactly the reason but I'm sure you have your thoughts. Just tell me what you think.

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    The most toxic environment in sports resides within the halls of MsG.

    Dolan’s paranoia and his stupid media policy fosters acrimony and Resentment. Why? The dude is spoiled brat born on third base and wants everybody to concede he just smacked a triple... off Bob Gibson.

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    MU’s contract runs out after 2020-2021 season... I believe Fiz falls on his sword here soon... but, would you keep Perry this year... give him 1 more offseason... then fire him after next season? Might as well, no? Wait for MU to be a free agent?

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