The Fire Fizdale Watch Thread

mafra

Legend
Who should be the backup C?

Portis or Gibson?

Taj Gibson: How the little things can make a big difference

The vet has made a strong case to be the Knicks? backup center

By Knicks Nuance Nov 13, 2019, 2:30pm EST

Which brings us nicely onto Taj Gibson. The 34 year old, even in his prime with the Chicago Bulls, was never more than a high-end role player. Taj was molded by former Chicago Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau, in an ecosystem that demands a strict adherence to defensive fundamentals. Gibson will be making on-time weakside rotations well after he retires, through sheer force of habit. ​

It?s not news that Gibson is a significantly better defensive player than Portis, but he also has quiet offensive virtues that make him a neater fit in Fizdale?s system.

So far this season, the Knicks run the most off-ball screens in the league, but are 28th in the NBA in points per possession ? 0.75 ? off these plays (per NBA.com Synergy Advanced Stats). Screening is an under-appreciated and under-publicized NBA skill, and in a screen-heavy Knicks offense, elite screen-setters stand to have a big impact.​

In limited minutes this season, Gibson has been a devastating screener. According to NBA.com hustle stats, the veteran is averaging an impressive 5.9 screen assists ? leading to 13.3 points ? per 36 minutes. This mark is by far the highest on the roster, notably dwarfs Portis? 2.2 screen assists ? good for five points ? per 36 minutes. ​

The Brooklyn native also ? whilst we?re on the subject of under-the-radar fundamentals ? leads the team in box-outs per 36 minutes at 8.7. Portis is right behind him, with 6.4 box-outs per 36 minutes. Good screens and consistent box-outs. Elbow jumpers and hard rolls to the rim. A general sense of industry, of calming competence, of hard-earned experience. These are the blue-collar specialties of Taj Gibson, the epitome of a steadying role player.

(Where art thou Kurt Thomas)

This is not (entirely) an indictment of Portis? game as much as a recognition of Gibson?s. There is value in finding him more minutes; for his fit on this roster, in Fizdale?s screen heavy system, paired up for the most part with a talented, but defensively-limited frontcourt partner in Julius Randle. The reality, with Portis, is that he?s a gunner. Capable of blink-quick scoring bursts, but also one-dimensional and inconsistent. On this Knick team, perhaps, Bobby is better utilized as an ad-hoc energizer, deployed sparingly.

Gibson is short of a great basketball player, or even at this stage of his career a very good one. His game will not raise the ceiling of this Knicks team, but it will raise the floor. Having started the season 2-8, and having been on the wrong end of some truly painful blowouts already, this team cannot turn down the opportunity at an incremental bump in collective competence.

Portis will win one in every ten games by himself, as we saw in his vengeful outburst against the Bulls earlier this season. Gibson will do the dirty work ? the little things ? to help his team win every night.

aj is at the tail end of a career spent in the NBA trenches. Gibson is battle-tested, and probably a little deaf after eight seasons of being berated by a gruff-baritone Thibodeau, whose heart beats for defensive minutia. One thing he doesn?t need is minutes on a rebuilding Knicks team to validate his 11 years in the NBA so far. There were, no doubt, 10 million other more persuasive reasons he chose New York in free agency this past summer.

Either way, the Knicks sure could do with utilizing another player who does the little things, that ? piled up over a quarter, a game, a season ? can make a big difference.

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2019/11/13/20957605/taj-gibson-how-the-little-things-can-make-a-big-difference
 
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knicksin60

Starter
I think it is time to admit that there is zero hope for the Knicks to ever become a winning organization.Dolan and MSG stockholders could give less of a damn about what happens on the court as long as the Knicks continue to be the number 1 money making franchise in the NBA.

You can?t really blame Dolan when it is all a business.If any of us had to choose between making a billion dollars or watching the Knicks make the playoffs every year I am sure that we would sign up for the former without hesitation.I would sell my left nut to be rich off of the Knicks but I would have second thoughts of doing the same thing for a Knicks championship.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Who should be the backup C?

Portis or Gibson?

Taj Gibson: How the little things can make a big difference

The vet has made a strong case to be the Knicks? backup center

By Knicks Nuance Nov 13, 2019, 2:30pm EST

Which brings us nicely onto Taj Gibson. The 34 year old, even in his prime with the Chicago Bulls, was never more than a high-end role player. Taj was molded by former Chicago Bulls head coach Tom Thibodeau, in an ecosystem that demands a strict adherence to defensive fundamentals. Gibson will be making on-time weakside rotations well after he retires, through sheer force of habit. ​

It?s not news that Gibson is a significantly better defensive player than Portis, but he also has quiet offensive virtues that make him a neater fit in Fizdale?s system.

So far this season, the Knicks run the most off-ball screens in the league, but are 28th in the NBA in points per possession ? 0.75 ? off these plays (per NBA.com Synergy Advanced Stats). Screening is an under-appreciated and under-publicized NBA skill, and in a screen-heavy Knicks offense, elite screen-setters stand to have a big impact.​

In limited minutes this season, Gibson has been a devastating screener. According to NBA.com hustle stats, the veteran is averaging an impressive 5.9 screen assists ? leading to 13.3 points ? per 36 minutes. This mark is by far the highest on the roster, notably dwarfs Portis? 2.2 screen assists ? good for five points ? per 36 minutes. ​

The Brooklyn native also ? whilst we?re on the subject of under-the-radar fundamentals ? leads the team in box-outs per 36 minutes at 8.7. Portis is right behind him, with 6.4 box-outs per 36 minutes. Good screens and consistent box-outs. Elbow jumpers and hard rolls to the rim. A general sense of industry, of calming competence, of hard-earned experience. These are the blue-collar specialties of Taj Gibson, the epitome of a steadying role player.

(Where art thou Kurt Thomas)

This is not (entirely) an indictment of Portis? game as much as a recognition of Gibson?s. There is value in finding him more minutes; for his fit on this roster, in Fizdale?s screen heavy system, paired up for the most part with a talented, but defensively-limited frontcourt partner in Julius Randle. The reality, with Portis, is that he?s a gunner. Capable of blink-quick scoring bursts, but also one-dimensional and inconsistent. On this Knick team, perhaps, Bobby is better utilized as an ad-hoc energizer, deployed sparingly.

Gibson is short of a great basketball player, or even at this stage of his career a very good one. His game will not raise the ceiling of this Knicks team, but it will raise the floor. Having started the season 2-8, and having been on the wrong end of some truly painful blowouts already, this team cannot turn down the opportunity at an incremental bump in collective competence.

Portis will win one in every ten games by himself, as we saw in his vengeful outburst against the Bulls earlier this season. Gibson will do the dirty work ? the little things ? to help his team win every night.

aj is at the tail end of a career spent in the NBA trenches. Gibson is battle-tested, and probably a little deaf after eight seasons of being berated by a gruff-baritone Thibodeau, whose heart beats for defensive minutia. One thing he doesn?t need is minutes on a rebuilding Knicks team to validate his 11 years in the NBA so far. There were, no doubt, 10 million other more persuasive reasons he chose New York in free agency this past summer.

Either way, the Knicks sure could do with utilizing another player who does the little things, that ? piled up over a quarter, a game, a season ? can make a big difference.

https://www.postingandtoasting.com/...w-the-little-things-can-make-a-big-difference


Taj Gibson was a great pick-up .. Yes, Gibson's 10 yr experience belong in the Knicks starter lineup over Randle's weak performance, and Portis inconsistent performance. Hopefully, when MitchRob return Gibson's skills/talent would be put alongside Mitch in the starter lineup as the Knicks PF.
The Knicks front-office should've gave DeAndre Jordan the $30M contract they gave to Portis in the off-season, to start the 2019-20 Knicks season having some playoff experience players in the starter lineup. Plus the growth of all the Knicks young-core players performance would grow having a 11 yr experience DJ, and a 10 yr experience Gibson in the locker-room.
Morris was a great pick-up .. Yes, Morris performance belong in the Knicks starter lineup, plus to guide 2nd season Knox as backup.

Randle's performance turned-out to be a big problem on both sides of the court .. his team-ballin are poor .. he dont picknroll, he dont screen or box-out a defender for any of his teammates. he's a poor one one defender, he slow getting back on defense, plus he's a poor passer when ever he grab a defensive-rebound. And as a point-forward Randle has to be the worst ever in the NBA.
Fizdale's judgement to let Randle bring the ball up more than Frank the past two games, and DSJ too .. need to be removed asap.
We have 19 - 74 record head-coach Fizdale calling the shots ........
 

tiger0330

Legend
In a nut shell this is how bad we are yet Fiz clings to that notion Randle is a bigger James Harden and puts DSJ on the floor when anyone else but him even Randle would be a better PG, and he has the nerve not to send him to the GLeague to let him get a rhythm down there instead of blowing games when they count. The guy has to go ASAP.

The Knicks are 30th in offensive rating, 23rd in defensive rating, 30th in net rating, 26th in pace, 29th in true shooting percentage, 29th in effective field goal percentage, 27th in assist rate, 23rd in 3-point attempt rate, and 25th in opponent effective field goal percentage. These are not hallmarks of a well-coached team. Yes, the roster is clunky and not very good, but the expectations, at least from fans, weren’t very high. Expecting the team to be improved from last year and not lose half their games by double digits isn’t a high standard.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
In a nut shell this is how bad we are yet Fiz clings to that notion Randle is a bigger James Harden and puts DSJ on the floor when anyone else but him even Randle would be a better PG, and he has the nerve not to send him to the GLeague to let him get a rhythm down there instead of blowing games when they count. The guy has to go ASAP.

The Knicks are 30th in offensive rating, 23rd in defensive rating, 30th in net rating, 26th in pace, 29th in true shooting percentage, 29th in effective field goal percentage, 27th in assist rate, 23rd in 3-point attempt rate, and 25th in opponent effective field goal percentage. These are not hallmarks of a well-coached team. Yes, the roster is clunky and not very good, but the expectations, at least from fans, weren?t very high. Expecting the team to be improved from last year and not lose half their games by double digits isn?t a high standard.


After beating Dallas again to give us fans some hope, I'm glad the next two games (5-7 Hornets & 4-7 Cavs) are at MSG, where Dolan will show his presence at both games .. Dolan will do the front-office job of firing Fizdale if he have another LOSS in MSG.

I'm aware of the Knicks Board-meeting Dolan has to attend for the stock holders, their judgement of the above Knicks rating are something they would expect from a Interim head-coach, not a NBA head coach in his 2nd season.
 
To all in this forum. Tell me what you think of the reason or reasons for stopping media access to Fiz this past summer? Please everybody give me your thoughts because I think that is a BIG cause of the problems we see now in this team.

Last night game against the Hornets and Randle taking the last shot. Is he sending a message to the FO that this your 60 million dollar man and I put him into position to win this game and games in the future. You(FO) sign him this is the results. I'll play anybody you want me to play.

Started to make a new thread but figured this was just as good. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.....
 

mafra

Legend
Truly, that Mills is considering firing someone for being bad at their job is a jaw-dropping, laughable, and kind of nauseating act of high-end hypocrisy. This guy a walking, talking, finger-pointing violation of NBA darwinism.

Mills has had various roles ? and a strong voice ? within the Knicks? power structure since 2003, when he was appointed president of Madison Square Garden Sports. Outside of a four-year hiatus from the franchise from 2009 through 2013 ? which we?ll talk about later ? Mills? fingerprints are all over the Knicks? perennial floundering.

Only a handful of executives in the NBA have served the team they are with now as long as Mills has been with the Knicks. Pat Riley joined Miami in 1995; RC Buford joined the Spurs in 2002; John Paxson and Danny Ainge joined the Bulls? and Celtics? front offices, respectively, in 2003.


Mills, then, is one of the longest-tenured execs in the NBA. This is notable, given the Knicks have had 12 losing seasons in the 12 seasons that Mills has been employed in the front office. Twelve seasons and counting, that is. For comparison, his contemporaries ? Riley, Buford, Paxson and Ainge ? have presided over 59 winning seasons out of the 73 seasons their teams have played during their respective tenures.


Granted, Mills was not always the definitive voice in the front office during these 12 losing seasons, but he ? besides Dolan ? is the only constant. His is the most enduring voice and influence during a decade-plus timeframe that literally could not have been worse. The fact that during his hiatus from 2009-13 ? when he worked for Magic Johnson?s Wealth Management Group ? the Knicks not only had winning seasons, but made the playoffs three out of those four seasons, speaks to how much of a hex Mills has been at MSG this century.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...bout-steve-mills-talking-about-accountability

That he is one of the worst performing executives in NBA history shouldn?t be surprising, given he is arguably one of the least qualified to do the job. The majority of current league execs have a background in either playing professionally, coaching, scouting; or a combination of the three. Of the 30 leading front office executives in the league ? the guys with current final say ? 25 of them had specific experience in one or more of these professions prior to landing the top job.


The other five are: Daryl Morey, who has had the Rockets over .500 every year since 2007; Bob Myers and Rob Pelinka, who both had 10-plus year careers as NBA player agents; Zach Kleiman, the new Memphis Grizzlies GM, who is a 30-year-old front office prodigy in his first year of the job; and Steve Mills.

Mills has vast experience and expertise in the business of basketball, working for the NBA and then the Knicks, but outside of one year playing professionally in Ecuador, he?s never played, he?s never coached, and he?s never worked exclusively as a scout. And, shocker: he?s never won. His virtues are in navigating the baffling byzantine corporate edifice that governs MSG ? not player evaluation, not X?s and O?s, not salary cap management. And the results have somewhat brutally borne this out.

Add all this up, and, incredibly, Steve Mills is one of the longest-serving, least successful, least-qualified executives in NBA history ? and he still has a job.

Not only does he still have a job, he has the gall ? the flat out stones ? to hold a press conference and preach accountability after 10 games of a season, after over 10 years of literally unprecedented incompetence without consequence.

In a way, Steve Mills is the most successful executive in NBA history. Because, in a harshly results-based profession, he is apparently immune to the repercussions of consistently diabolical results. Because he is still employed. Because he is living in an extremely fragile glass house, in a typhoon of dysfunction, throwing bricks at the walls, and he is still cashing checks.

He is the basketball equivalent of rust. Or mold. Or something similarly stubborn and destructive. Once it?s there, it is seemingly impossible to get rid of, and tends to lead to a general and inevitable decay.
 
I agree about Mills.

How about why no access to Fiz after the draft and F.A. What was or is the problem or problems. I know you don't know exactly the reason but I'm sure you have your thoughts. Just tell me what you think.
 

mafra

Legend
The most toxic environment in sports resides within the halls of MsG.

Dolan?s paranoia and his stupid media policy fosters acrimony and Resentment. Why? The dude is spoiled brat born on third base and wants everybody to concede he just smacked a triple... off Bob Gibson.
 

mafra

Legend
MU?s contract runs out after 2020-2021 season... I believe Fiz falls on his sword here soon... but, would you keep Perry this year... give him 1 more offseason... then fire him after next season? Might as well, no? Wait for MU to be a free agent?
 

tiger0330

Legend
MU’s contract runs out after 2020-2021 season... I believe Fiz falls on his sword here soon... but, would you keep Perry this year... give him 1 more offseason... then fire him after next season? Might as well, no? Wait for MU to be a free agent?
Who’s MU???
 

mafra

Legend
The Knicks? failing youth movement is a David Fizdale fiasco

By Marc Berman
November 28, 2019 | 3:16pm

Knicks coach David Fizdale is not just being judged on the won-loss record, according to sources.

Progress is the company buzzword, which means a lot of things. But progress of their young players is the guts of it.

As the Knicks gear up for a Black Friday showdown vs. the 76ers following a brutal rout in Toronto on Wednesday in which they feel behind by 34 points, the advancement of their blue-chippers have seemingly hit a brick wall.

Fizdale?s desperation may have been revealed by staging a marathon closed-door meeting after the game.

The Knicks? 4-14 record is the same as last season?s clip at this juncture. None of it bodes well for Fizdale finishing out his second season ? unless owner James Dolan blows it all up in taking down president Steve Mills, GM Scott Perry and their staff.

Mills hired Fizdale because of his reputation as a player developmental guru. Firing Fizdale would make Mills and Perry look foolish for erring so famously on such an important hire after firing Jeff Hornacek.

Here?s a snapshot of the eight young players who matter most (eat your turkey first):

1. RJ Barrett: After a bang-up start, the third pick in draft has cooled a bit in efficiency numbers but that is not uncommon for rookies. After a 5-of-17 outing in his native Toronto, his shooting percentage has dipped to 40.4 percent, 33.3 percent from 3 and an egregious 50.6 percent from the free-throw line. He?s bringing a lot of intangibles ? ball-movement, defense and moxie ? so he?s still the brightest bulb.

2. Dennis Smith Jr.: His life was rocked by the recent death of his stepmother. Smith has really had just one solid game, against his former team, the Mavericks, when he attacked the paint with reckless abandon. Otherwise, the 2017 lottery pick has been erratic on both ends. Smith has not improved his jump shot one iota, despite all that summer work with shooting guru Keith Smart. This is a guy who had triple double in his last game in a Mavericks uniform, before the Knicks acquired him in the Kristaps Porzingis trade in January.

3. Kevin Knox: Fizdale pushed for this draft pick at No. 8 in 20018 over two-way forward Mikal Bridges because he saw a Kevin Durant upside. In his second season, Knox is regressing coming off the bench. He was held to 11:47 in Toronto as Fizdale has pared his minutes in recent games. His shotmaking isn?t covering up for his lack of defensive awareness. He?s shooting 38.5 percent overall, but 38.1 percent from 3. That makes his effective FG of 48.7 percent better than Barrett, but he brings no extras. Let?s mark the 20-year-old Knox down as a project.

4. Mitchell Robinson: The shotblocking center shows flashes of brilliance with his putbacks, rejections and alley-oop dunks. He is shooting 72 percent with two blocks per game. But, has the coaching staff gotten the Second All-Rookie teamer to improve as a disciplined defender who commits few cheap fouls? Not really.

5. Frank Ntilikina: The Frenchman has emerged as the starting point guard by default with Smith?s family leave and Elfrid Payton?s hamstring strain. Ntilikina?s long arms make him a spider on defense, but he is still not a creative floor general who breaks down a defense or a reliable outside shooter. In his third season, Ntilikina is still shooting just 37.7 percent. His missed a wide-open 3-pointer vs. the Nets on Sunday in the final seconds that is still painful.

6. Allonzo Trier: The undrafted rookie revelation is now a sophomore afterthought. Fizdale finally threw him out there in garbage time in Toronto and he made the most of it, shooting every possible time he could and racking up 10 points in seven minutes. His defense is below average and still doesn?t embrace the move-the-ball philosophy Fizdale wants to see from him.

7. Damyean Dotson: Phil Jackson?s 2017 second-round pick emerged recently into the rotation and brings hustle, intangibles and energy. But it?s a shame the shoulder surgery cost the shooting guard a chance this summer of working on his outside shot. He?s not draining nearly enough in this make-or-miss league (38 percent overall, 26.3 on 3?s).

8. Ignas Brazdeikis: The Michigan rookie has lived up to his reputation as a poor defender who didn?t bring anything to the court other than an eagerness to score. It wasn?t enough in Fizdale?s eyes and he?s become a G-League regular.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...youth-movement-is-a-david-fizdale-fiasco/amp/
 

tiger0330

Legend
DSJ is a real head scratcher, his shot is actually worse than last season despite all the off-season work and self promotion he was doing about it. Lonzo worked on his shot with Coach Vinson getting rid of that across the body motion but. I see nothing different about DSJ shot.

Sounds like Fizdale won’t be offered up to take the fall according to Berman and the Knicks are content to tank another season, if true they’ll be trying to trade the guys we acquired but I doubt there’s much value there with their short term contracts to get valuable draft picks.
 

mafra

Legend
What exactly should expect, on the trade front?

Morris could probably fetch a late first rounder.... I?m thinking he would be a great fit with POR.

Ellington a second, tops?

Randle is best serves as a third option... is there a team who?ll recognize that and take that contract?

Bullock not healthy.... EP and Portis not worth anything of value....

Frank a late 1st or 2 second rounders...

Are we best serves getting a few pick but also taking back a bad contract (to get a higher 1st or a young player).

Let the tank begin....
 

tiger0330

Legend
I mentioned that instead of blowing the wad on a bunch of role players, I would have preferred to keep most of our cap space to take back bad contracts to acquire draft picks. Now we have to trade guys to open up cap space but have to juggle taking back salary, would have been a lot easier to preserve that cap space by not signing guys with the disappointing Mills/Perry Plan B or otherwise known as Mills Fiasco.
 

tiger0330

Legend
The Knicks’ failing youth movement is a David Fizdale fiasco

By Marc Berman
November 28, 2019 | 3:16pm

Knicks coach David Fizdale is not just being judged on the won-loss record, according to sources.

Progress is the company buzzword, which means a lot of things. But progress of their young players is the guts of it.

As the Knicks gear up for a Black Friday showdown vs. the 76ers following a brutal rout in Toronto on Wednesday in which they feel behind by 34 points, the advancement of their blue-chippers have seemingly hit a brick wall.

Fizdale’s desperation may have been revealed by staging a marathon closed-door meeting after the game.

The Knicks’ 4-14 record is the same as last season’s clip at this juncture. None of it bodes well for Fizdale finishing out his second season — unless owner James Dolan blows it all up in taking down president Steve Mills, GM Scott Perry and their staff.

Mills hired Fizdale because of his reputation as a player developmental guru. Firing Fizdale would make Mills and Perry look foolish for erring so famously on such an important hire after firing Jeff Hornacek.

Here’s a snapshot of the eight young players who matter most (eat your turkey first):

1. RJ Barrett: After a bang-up start, the third pick in draft has cooled a bit in efficiency numbers but that is not uncommon for rookies. After a 5-of-17 outing in his native Toronto, his shooting percentage has dipped to 40.4 percent, 33.3 percent from 3 and an egregious 50.6 percent from the free-throw line. He’s bringing a lot of intangibles — ball-movement, defense and moxie — so he’s still the brightest bulb.

2. Dennis Smith Jr.: His life was rocked by the recent death of his stepmother. Smith has really had just one solid game, against his former team, the Mavericks, when he attacked the paint with reckless abandon. Otherwise, the 2017 lottery pick has been erratic on both ends. Smith has not improved his jump shot one iota, despite all that summer work with shooting guru Keith Smart. This is a guy who had triple double in his last game in a Mavericks uniform, before the Knicks acquired him in the Kristaps Porzingis trade in January.

3. Kevin Knox: Fizdale pushed for this draft pick at No. 8 in 20018 over two-way forward Mikal Bridges because he saw a Kevin Durant upside. In his second season, Knox is regressing coming off the bench. He was held to 11:47 in Toronto as Fizdale has pared his minutes in recent games. His shotmaking isn’t covering up for his lack of defensive awareness. He’s shooting 38.5 percent overall, but 38.1 percent from 3. That makes his effective FG of 48.7 percent better than Barrett, but he brings no extras. Let’s mark the 20-year-old Knox down as a project.

4. Mitchell Robinson: The shotblocking center shows flashes of brilliance with his putbacks, rejections and alley-oop dunks. He is shooting 72 percent with two blocks per game. But, has the coaching staff gotten the Second All-Rookie teamer to improve as a disciplined defender who commits few cheap fouls? Not really.

5. Frank Ntilikina: The Frenchman has emerged as the starting point guard by default with Smith’s family leave and Elfrid Payton’s hamstring strain. Ntilikina’s long arms make him a spider on defense, but he is still not a creative floor general who breaks down a defense or a reliable outside shooter. In his third season, Ntilikina is still shooting just 37.7 percent. His missed a wide-open 3-pointer vs. the Nets on Sunday in the final seconds that is still painful.

6. Allonzo Trier: The undrafted rookie revelation is now a sophomore afterthought. Fizdale finally threw him out there in garbage time in Toronto and he made the most of it, shooting every possible time he could and racking up 10 points in seven minutes. His defense is below average and still doesn’t embrace the move-the-ball philosophy Fizdale wants to see from him.

7. Damyean Dotson: Phil Jackson’s 2017 second-round pick emerged recently into the rotation and brings hustle, intangibles and energy. But it’s a shame the shoulder surgery cost the shooting guard a chance this summer of working on his outside shot. He’s not draining nearly enough in this make-or-miss league (38 percent overall, 26.3 on 3’s).

8. Ignas Brazdeikis: The Michigan rookie has lived up to his reputation as a poor defender who didn’t bring anything to the court other than an eagerness to score. It wasn’t enough in Fizdale’s eyes and he’s become a G-League regular.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...youth-movement-is-a-david-fizdale-fiasco/amp/
Reading this more in depth says Fizdale is coming up short on the player development front also. It’s all related if the young guys were producing like the Raps young guys are we would be winning games not losing them. Getting schooled by guys named Boucher, Miller, Davis all undrafted guys would make me fire Fizdale.
 

paris401

Starter
Reading this more in depth says Fizdale is coming up short on the player development front also. I

i think plop-plop is a $hitty coach... BUT... what did they give him to work with??? frank nitti... go join the french team with fredic weis... knox... he blows... smith...dallas couldn't wait to rid themselves of him...dotson-trier-ignas... this is what u wanta build a team around... we'll see how barrett works out... and robinson def shows flashes when he's not in foul trouble - as to the FA's signed ... holy $hit... we mite be worse then last year...
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Its that TIME !!!

Here's 5 logical reason why Mike Miller should be the Knick Interim head-coach the remainder of the 2019-20 season:
1) The Knicks have a 4-17 record.
2) The Knicks are on a 7 game losing streak.
3) The Knicks are 2-8 in their last 10 games.
4) The Knicks head coach Fizdale record in NY are 21-82.
5) The Knicks just loss a game by 44 points to the Bucks .. 88 - 132.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Is end near for David Fizdale? One Knicks source expects head coach to be fired soon
Fizdale's job has been in question, as have the jobs of Steve Mills and Scott Perry


The lingering question after the Knicks' 44-point loss in Milwaukee is this: how much longer will David Fizdale be on the sidelines?
We don't have a definitive answer, but one member of the organization said late last month that he expected management to fire Fizdale soon, per SNY sources. The person who expressed the thought isn't someone who would make the decision to fire Fizdale. But the idea that a member of the Knicks believes a coaching change is coming says a lot about the level of uncertainty in New York right now.
As you know, there has been speculation about Fizdale's job status for several weeks amid New York's 4-17 start.
After team president Steve Mills and GM Scott Perry held an impromptu press conference following a 21-point loss, ESPN reported that Mills had been laying the groundwork to fire Fizdale.
SNY reported that neither Mills, Perry or Fizdale were safe following the post-game press conference from the execs - a rarity in the NBA.
New York has gone 2-9 since the press conference, which was presumably held because owner James Dolan was upset with the team's performance.
Fizdale on Sunday said he felt that the team had improved since the press conference because it had competed against some quality opponents.
Obviously, Monday's loss won't be cited as evidence to support that theory.
The Knicks trailed by 25 midway through the second quarter and seemed to lack the competitive fire that they'd previously shown when facing big deficits.
 
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