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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Nice win tonight. You’d think we were making progress if we hadn’t blown that last game. Instead, you have to stay skeptical. Will this team come out and win another one next time or is this another fluke win for this team?
    Co-sign you have to be skeptical, KLove and Nance not playing, and they were coming off a back to back. Cavs are not very good and they know they're rebuilding. We win 5 of the next 10 maybe we can talk about this team finally gelling and being pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Nice win tonight. You’d think we were making progress if we hadn’t blown that last game. Instead, you have to stay skeptical. Will this team come out and win another one next time or is this another fluke win for this team?
    Yes, show me something against PHI.

    We have enough professional talent to be competitive most nights, and to be at least 50/50 against teams under .500...

    They played well 5/6 road games to starts season... we have no go-to guy, so we should expect many games we fallShort in 4th...

    But, now that we are nearing 15 game mark... gelling should occur... roles set....

    They have to bring effort and protect ball.

    With that said, I still see 27 wins as max... but that’s Ok.... just finish with more wins than Nets and this was a good season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Yes, show me something against PHI.

    We have enough professional talent to be competitive most nights, and to be at least 50/50 against teams under .500...

    They played well 5/6 road games to starts season... we have no go-to guy, so we should expect many games we fallShort in 4th...

    But, now that we are nearing 15 game mark... gelling should occur... roles set....

    They have to bring effort and protect ball.

    With that said, I still see 27 wins as max... but that’s Ok.... just finish with more wins than Nets and this was a good season.
    The schedule is about to get really tough, I still doubt Fiz makes it past 20gms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    The schedule is about to get really tough, I still doubt Fiz makes it past 20gms
    I do think they came out tonight with the mindset they were gonna lose; just like in those 2 games vs the Mavs. CLE just humiliated them, in a wire to wire waxing... Cavs has won something like 12 straight at MSG. So they came out tonight and played with purpose and determination. They played as a team.

    But CLE isn’t a good team, and DAL is a bad matchup for them bc they lack interior presence and we have a bunch of bigs.

    But, we all know they can only show up about 10 times a season and play like this. They’ll go back to hero ball, and make their stupid mistakes soon enough.

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    14 games into his career, RJ Barrett, teenager, has, in different games, scored 25 points, grabbed 15 rebounds, dished nine assists and gakked six steals. He leads the team in offensive fouls drawn and free throws attempted and is second in steals. Yet he won’t be old enough to drink until the Knicks are a couple weeks away from being spurned by Giannis Antetokounmpo in free agency. What a time to be alive.


    The “Who’s Leg Does Damyean Dotson Gotta Hump To Get Some Minutes Around Here?” traveling circus put on another crowd-pleasing show. Has Dot convinced the organization of his value? After playing 18+ minutes only once in the first 11 games, last night was the third consecutive game he’s done so. He hit half his shots, and they weren’t all jumpers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    I do think they came out tonight with the mindset they were gonna lose; just like in those 2 games vs the Mavs. CLE just humiliated them, in a wire to wire waxing... Cavs has won something like 12 straight at MSG. So they came out tonight and played with purpose and determination. They played as a team.

    But CLE isn’t a good team, and DAL is a bad matchup for them bc they lack interior presence and we have a bunch of bigs.

    But, we all know they can only show up about 10 times a season and play like this. They’ll go back to hero ball, and make their stupid mistakes soon enough.
    Kenny Atkinson said something about the Nets that applies to the Knicks in spades. Said a below average team is going to be inconsistent, trouncing CLE and getting trounced by the same is the very definition of inconsistent

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    14 games into his career, RJ Barrett, teenager, has, in different games, scored 25 points, grabbed 15 rebounds, dished nine assists and gakked six steals. He leads the team in offensive fouls drawn and free throws attempted and is second in steals. Yet he won’t be old enough to drink until the Knicks are a couple weeks away from being spurned by Giannis Antetokounmpo in free agency. What a time to be alive.


    The “Who’s Leg Does Damyean Dotson Gotta Hump To Get Some Minutes Around Here?” traveling circus put on another crowd-pleasing show. Has Dot convinced the organization of his value? After playing 18+ minutes only once in the first 11 games, last night was the third consecutive game he’s done so. He hit half his shots, and they weren’t all jumpers.
    RJ In each of those different games we have lost, huh. There are a series of question you never answer about Super Man RJ.
    1. When did he win the starting SG job from Dotson?
    2. When did he do any kind of shooting like the kids White, Walker, Graham, etc? a string of 3's put together?
    3. Why wasn't he kept at PG? If he is the all fired great player.
    a. Couldn't win the SF starting position so they put him in at the one position that the player holding it was hurt(surgery on his shoulder).
    4. Why isn't he defending the best guard on the opposing team?
    5. Why is Frank covering for him in defense lapse? That Right!! Frank is guarding his man because he loses them.
    6. Why doesn't a #3 overall pick move the needle of this team? Frank is the only player moving the needle of this team.

    Fiz had the same situation last year by not playing Dotson in the beginning of the year. He was doing the same thing. Dotson, plain and simple is the best all around player on this team, PERIOD. The next is Frank. In both years Dotson has had to prove his value to the team by 'EARNING MINUTES'. Nobody has give Dotson a thing... Can you say the same about RJ. This team runs a lot better with Frank and Dotson at the guard position. There are no defensive lapse as with RJ on the floor.
    Questions - Where does RJ fit into that all-around player discussion?
    When did RJ ever have to 'EARN MINUTES'?

    The only reason RJ is starting and playing is because the front office got to try show something good out of their mistakes in F.A and the Draft. RJ is an average player draft in a low talented draft. MOVE THE NEEDLE!!!

    Sell that horse and pony show to someone that don't know BB.

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    RJ, as a teenager who was billed as a kid who couldn’t shoot, is 17-46 (37%) from downtown....

    D-Dot, as a 25 yr-old who is billed as a budding superstar by some on these boards, is shooting 7-24 (29%) from downtown.

    RJ is better now... I can’t imagine how much better he’ll be when he’s 25.

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    I like both RJ and Dotson. I can see them playing complimentary roles to each other going forward. The problem is going to be that the Knicks are probably not going to resign Dotson at the end of the year if he does anything this season to give himself value in free agency.

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    I like Dotson too. I wish he would morph into Kawhi. He played 4 years at HOU, and this is his third NBA season.

    29% from downtown is disappointing. This should be season he breaks out.

    I just want the same standard to be applied to all.

    We fans don’t see what’s happening in practice. Maybe RJ is eating his lunch, for all we know.

    I do agree that we should be playing DD heavy minutes, so we can determine what we have moving forward.... Especially before (or if) Bullock returns.

    But, please, let’s not get carried away. DD ceiling is much lower than RJ’s... and RJ is 6 years younger and already looks like the better player, at least to about 95% of those employed to know these things.

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    How did the Knicks bench-players performance look to you last night .. DSJ? Dotson? Knox? Portis? MitchRob? Ellington?
    In the final 6 minute of the game the Knicks held a 102 -80 lead over the Cavs .. should Fiz had given those 6 minutes to a bench lineup to get on the same-page ??? DSJ & Dotson & Knox & Portis & MitchRob .... The more we put DSJ Dotson Knox Portis and MitchRob on the court together in a lineup the less they look like "Project-Players" !!!

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    Frank Ntilikina will not be getting unseated as the Knicks’ starting point guard any time soon.

    Not only has the 21-year-old been playing well in nine straight starts since getting his shot, but the starter he replaced is still not close to returning to action.

    Elfrid Payton was re-evaluated Tuesday and an ultrasound showed his hamstring strain has not fully healed. He will be re-evaluated in 10 days, the team said, knocking him out at least four more games on top of the 10 straight he has already missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    I like Dotson too. I wish he would morph into Kawhi. He played 4 years at HOU, and this is his third NBA season.

    29% from downtown is disappointing. This should be season he breaks out.

    I just want the same standard to be applied to all.

    We fans don’t see what’s happening in practice. Maybe RJ is eating his lunch, for all we know.

    I do agree that we should be playing DD heavy minutes, so we can determine what we have moving forward.... Especially before (or if) Bullock returns.

    But, please, let’s not get carried away. DD ceiling is much lower than RJ’s... and RJ is 6 years younger and already looks like the better player, at least to about 95% of those employed to know these things.

    Finally answer the question about how RJ got the starting SG job. MAYBE it was given to him like I been saying all along. Eating Dotson lunch... not happening if for no other reason RJ can't play defense on Dotson. Dotson would 'D' RJ up. Can't handle the ball... proven by his inability to play PG. Dotson can play the PG.

    Why don't you see RJ morph into Kawhi? Because it ain't happening!!

    Dotson had should surgery in the off season and it is starting to come around. So his shooting % isn't what it going to be right now. It take a minute.

    Why are you for RJ playing over 35 minutes a game? Shouldn't the same reason apply when it come to him? Dotson is earning minutes base on his over all performance. He is cutting into the so-call super rookie minutes. Maybe you heard those during the play by play saying how impress they were with Dotson over-all play. Dotson hasn't gotten out played by anyone playing the SG position....ANYONE.

    Who said Dotson ceiling is much lower than RJ? RJ has shown nothing close to talent that Dotson process. On a drive to basket the other night should have shown what talent has been sitting on the bench. RJ doesn't process those kinda moves.

    I agree with you about the 95% or higher employed. They are getting paid to say or do whatever the higher up say. That the same 95% that used a #3 pick in a very weak talented draft to draft RJ. They have to prop him and place him on a pedal and talk about how good he is as a rookie. We were in a situation where over-all talent was needed for the Knicks. Was one player in the top 3 move the needle for this team? Answer - NO!! Most smart and knowledge BB people would have trade back(ATL - two 1st picks) and drafted kids like Jaxon Hayes, Eric Paschall, Walker, PJ Washington and other.

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    Hey DD... send me an autograph ball! I’m rooting for you Dotson... but clanking 3s and missing wide open finger rolls is par for the course. And you’re turning 26 soon.

    As for trading back, hindsight is 20/20.
    NYK can’t draft, so we would’ve gotten 2 busts.

    But, we shall track this and revisit in 5-6 years. We shall see.

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    When Dotson missed the finger roll something said you would say something about it. Think he had to pick up his dribble and was too far out. Did you see the move to the basket? Too bad our #3 draft doesn't have that kind of ability. I'm also rooting for Dotson.

    In the case of last year draft. Again anybody that knows when you have a low talent class being drafted and you have one of the high pick and your team need a lot of talent. You trade back... it that simple. Now unless one of those top pick move the needle greatly then you draft them. That wasn't the case in this past year draft. We were not a team that needed one missing piece to the puzzle(Bullets/ Wes Unseld). When you promise your fan base that you are going to sign 2 superstars and they don't sign. Then that draft pick shoulder a lot of problems. Now you got to bill him as this great pick. Someone that is way ahead of all the other rookie. HE GOT AN NBA BODY, REALLY!! HE WISE BEYOND HIS YEARS!! His shoulder aren't that big to carry what I have to dish out.
    We drafted pretty good when Phil/Gaines was running the show. They knew talent!!! Mills/Perry/C. Robinson don't have any idea about drafting talent. Got a Question... You said(I'm quoting you) "NYK can't draft". So what makes you think we didn't draft a BUST?? Those players I mention have just as good a chance of being a Good player as RJ. Hype and a weak draft got him drafted that high.

    You wait 5-6 years. The thought of you being wrong about RJ hasn't come into head.

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