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    Who's the better guard?
    A) Lou Williams who scored 32 pts?
    B) Beverly who scored 6 pts?

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    Bench points: Clippers 85, Knicks 36.

    It’s probably an indictment on Miller, to some degree then. He sits idle while Booker then Lou destroy us...

    Hello. Wake up.

    Send your best weapon to guard them and task Frank with the lock down. At least try to curb their scoring prowess some.
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    “ Lou checked back in, an excellent and exciting opportunity to see the Knicks try Frank Ntilikina on him. Naturally, Frank went to the bench and Kadeem Allen got the nod, ‘cuz with Elfrid Payton out for personal reasons and Damyean Dotson out for inexplicable reasons, why give your young defensive specialist a shot when there’s an afterthought available who’s played fewer NBA games in his lifetime than Williams has for five different teams?”


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    This is what ticks me off about coaching. The 1 issue I have... don’t force guys to fit your scheme, mesh with your preconceived roles! Devise something that plays to your roster’s strengths.

    Whatever Frank is... he is definitely our best man defender on the perimeter. Any time it’s the third quarter and we are contending with a red hot scorer.... if it’s on the perimeter... get Frank on him and keep him there.

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    “Have we ever won a game where the opponent made 57 percent?” Rivers asked.

    The Clippers actually made a little bit of history Sunday. George, Williams and Montrezl Harrell each reached 30 points, combining for 98, the latter two off the bench. The Clips had never had three guys hit 30 in the same game.

    “History is good, someone’s got to make it,” Rivers said. “But I wouldn’t mind seeing us play better defense.”

    Well, look: Mike Miller certainly can’t be happy with the 135 points — it is plainly stated in the Coach’s Creed that defense is end-all and be-all. But he was as honest as he could be about all of this. With a dose of truth serum, what he might have said was this: “A three-point loss, on the road, to that team, for this team? Sign me up!”

    What he did say was this: “The biggest thing that comes to mind that I love is the effort, the fight, the scrap. That’s a high-level team and that’s one of the wilder games I’ve been a part of. The effort and the grit we showed in staying in that game and putting ourselves in position to win — I’m proud of this group.”

    It’s the pros. There’s still no medals for trying. But if you’re going to play a game, why can’t it be an entertaining one. If you’re going to lose, why not go down firing? If you’re going to have a lunchtime run at the Y, why not let 19,068 witnesses in on the fun?

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    What Miller said is true I was expecting a beat down by the Clips. The game was winnable a play or 2 on either side of the ball or better FT shooting and we could have stolen this one. No disrespect to RJ but if we had drafted Ja he would have been the better player for us now that DSJ looks like a certified bust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    What Miller said is true I was expecting a beat down by the Clips. The game was winnable a play or 2 on either side of the ball or better FT shooting and we could have stolen this one. No disrespect to RJ but if we had drafted Ja he would have been the better player for us now that DSJ looks like a certified bust.
    We should’ve tendered Mudiay’s QO until we knew we had a major FA ready to sign then renounce him. Judging how things went no FA was coming here they couldn’t even get meetings with them and he would’ve come cheaper than Payton

    He’s having a better yr usage and efficiency wise over all our guards clearly

    I actually wouldn’t mind bringing him back if he’s free again this offseason

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    “At the end of the day, we wanted to win. But we definitely took a positive step in our competition level,” Morris said. “Competing with a team that good that’s supposed to be one of the favorites to win a championship so for us to be in the game, the entire game, and actually have a big lead on them it says a lot about us. We competed our asses off.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    “At the end of the day, we wanted to win. But we definitely took a positive step in our competition level,” Morris said. “Competing with a team that good that’s supposed to be one of the favorites to win a championship so for us to be in the game, the entire game, and actually have a big lead on them it says a lot about us. We competed our asses off.”
    For the most part I agree with Morris comments but the Clippers have been going through the motions if we're being honest. They were 5-5 of their last 10gms prior to today

    Trust, if they were playing the Lakers I doubt we get the performance we saw from them today. With that being said besides MR game struggles and the Ts our team still has a sense of fluid play which wasn't the case when with Fizdale at the helm
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    The 132 - 135 score showed a NO DEFENSIVE Game!
    The team having the best scorers win (above 150 pt) high scoring games like to afternoon game.
    Coach Doc scoring depth took the win.
    Coach Miller, has a lot of explaining to do bout the 45-29 Knick first quarter lead ???
    You just don't loose a 16 pt lead in 5 minutes .. to an opponent whom loss (140-114) Yesterday to a young-core Grizz team in a outscoring battle.
    Harrell - Harrell - Harrell's screens & picks and inside domination of the paint help 3 clippers players score 30 pts on us.
    Once upon a time .. Coach Miller had our bench-player lineup (MitchRob Portis Knox Dotson) performing on the same-page on the defensive-end of the court having either Frank or Payton at the PG. What happen to putting that lineup on the court ???
    Take Dotson out of the DOG-House! Dotson performance compliments Knox and Portis performance 10 times better than RJ, Ellington, and Bullock.
    The Knicks new Coach Miller should be working hard in the gym with Four (Frank Payton Dotson RJ) guards to create ball-movement in the offense for MitchRob, Portis, Randle, Morris, Knox, and Gibson.
    After this .... west road trip .. Miller should work with a 10 Man rotation for a few games .. the Knicks long roster of GUARDS .. Kadeem, DSJ, Trier, Ellington, and Bullock has nothing creative to bring or build in the 10 man rotation. These guards have to wait to mid-season to get their playing-time. Switching and adding new guards to the rotation every other game will only lead to LOSSES without a game plan.
    Did coach Doc have a game-plan without Kyrie? Yes! a embarrass one for the Knicks today.

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    how a team can miss all these free throws??? they are called free for a reason? what is wrong with the whole team? is the basket tilted in the training facility?

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    Harrell taught MRob a lesson. To his defense Harrell should have foul out of that game. The officiating was horrible. They let Harrell drop his shoulder on MRob so many time that it was obvious he was give the green light. Clippers were trying to sell wolf tickets but Bobby bought all of them from the start. The Ref's made us take whatever they were dishing out and like it. MRob couldn't get physical with Harrell so he took what was dish out. Imaging is that MRob didn't get into foul trouble.

    My take on this game is that it showcase the need for two things. A Big man coach for MRob. A back-up Big man for MRob. Gibson isn't a Big man. So again a square peg for a round hole.

    BTW, when Miller(like Fiz) start coaching to his talent and not starting and playing players b/c management tell him to then you will see a different in this team. Just think for a minute if you are Dotson and Trier. They have been on this team longer than those so-called hype driven rookie and FA. But in the 4th quarter they are sitting and the ones that can't say 'lets play defense' is out on the floor. Nobody is talking about how horrible the kid plays defense. Nobody!!!

    One other thing... Payton coming back to play the other night. Was it because of how well Frank played in the previous game? Was it that someone told him to get his butt on the plane to save his starting job? Did his 4th quarter play lose the game for us? What happen that he left for the Clippers game? Whatever was problem yesterday was certainly problem Friday night. There are to many things I don't like about the how things are done with giving players opportunities that they don't deserve. Someone in a previous post said they wasn't talking about RJ having a DNP. Well RJ shouldn't be playing at all. Start of the season and definitely not now.

    Did anybody see the 4th quarter lineup on the floor and notice something strange. Bullock was playing the SG and RJ was at the SF. Bullock was on Lou for record and Frank was on Beverly. Miller has stomp this low to play RJ at SF knowing he is to slow for both SG and SF. This is pitiful!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    We should’ve tendered Mudiay’s QO until we knew we had a major FA ready to sign then renounce him. Judging how things went no FA was coming here they couldn’t even get meetings with them and he would’ve come cheaper than Payton

    He’s having a better yr usage and efficiency wise over all our guards clearly

    I actually wouldn’t mind bringing him back if he’s free again this offseason

    Mudiay's low b.ball IQ are on a playoff NBA team Utah Jazz whom have one of the NBA Top-10 winning Head-coaches in Quin Snyder. The Knicks havn't had a head coach as good as Quin Snyder since JVG quit.
    It look like the NBA 2019 FA knew the Knicks had a better Head-coach on their G League team than they had guiding the Knicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    For the most part I agree with Morris comments but the Clippers have been going through the motions if we're being honest. They were 5-5 of their last 10gms prior to today

    Trust, if they were playing the Lakers I doubt we get the performance we saw from them today. With that being said besides MR game struggles and the Ts our team still has a sense of fluid play which wasn't the case when with Fizdale at the helm
    Morris comment means nothing when u have knowledge of how Clippers head coach Doc Rivers coach in his career.
    When Doc Rivers coached the Big-3 in Boston he gave all his mediocre opponents big leads in the first half to make the game exciting watching his Big-3 come-back in the 2nd half of the game to win. Doc Rivers were so bold he did the same-thing in the Post-Season games when he had 8th and 7th seeded opponents.
    Last season playoffs Doc Rivers did not have Kyrie or Tobias Harris, it took the 3 champ Warriors 6 games in the series to beat Doc Clippers.
    Dont think or believe the Memphis Grizz beat Doc Rivers Clippers without Docs help !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    Harrell taught MRob a lesson. To his defense Harrell should have foul out of that game. The officiating was horrible. They let Harrell drop his shoulder on MRob so many time that it was obvious he was give the green light. Clippers were trying to sell wolf tickets but Bobby bought all of them from the start. The Ref's made us take whatever they were dishing out and like it. MRob couldn't get physical with Harrell so he took what was dish out. Imaging is that MRob didn't get into foul trouble.

    My take on this game is that it showcase the need for two things. A Big man coach for MRob. A back-up Big man for MRob. Gibson isn't a Big man. So again a square peg for a round hole.

    BTW, when Miller(like Fiz) start coaching to his talent and not starting and playing players b/c management tell him to then you will see a different in this team. Just think for a minute if you are Dotson and Trier. They have been on this team longer than those so-called hype driven rookie and FA. But in the 4th quarter they are sitting and the ones that can't say 'lets play defense' is out on the floor. Nobody is talking about how horrible the kid plays defense. Nobody!!!

    One other thing... Payton coming back to play the other night. Was it because of how well Frank played in the previous game? Was it that someone told him to get his butt on the plane to save his starting job? Did his 4th quarter play lose the game for us? What happen that he left for the Clippers game? Whatever was problem yesterday was certainly problem Friday night. There are to many things I don't like about the how things are done with giving players opportunities that they don't deserve. Someone in a previous post said they wasn't talking about RJ having a DNP. Well RJ shouldn't be playing at all. Start of the season and definitely not now.

    Did anybody see the 4th quarter lineup on the floor and notice something strange. Bullock was playing the SG and RJ was at the SF. Bullock was on Lou for record and Frank was on Beverly. Miller has stomp this low to play RJ at SF knowing he is to slow for both SG and SF. This is pitiful!!!

    Damn! So so True !!!
    Management still calling out who plays, and who don't play.
    I have to agree on many of your comments Dark .. Miller & Teammates should've convince Payton to stay home with his new born baby, because Frank and MitchRob were on a role, and Miller needed to test Trier out at the backup PG spot vs Booker's Phoenix Suns.
    Throwing Bullock into the rotation when the Knicks 10 man rotation were on a win streak was asking for the LOSS to the Phoenix Suns.
    The Knicks 10 Man rotation know Randle Morris and RJ are the lazy players in the rotation that show little effort on the defensive-end.
    Bullock don't know he has to hustle extra hard on the court when he's in a lineup having Randle & Morris.
    My biggest problem were why coach Miller did not put MitchRob & Gibson in a lineup in the 2nd half to contain Harrell's movement to get some Knicks points in the paint. Randle's performance were useless vs Harrell's domination on the court .. Harrell Paul & Lou scored 98 points on the Knicks, because of Randle & RJ Barret no effort on the defensive-end of the court for 35 minutes.

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