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    An example why Mills got canned and why Perry is next....

    The Grizzlies used $17 million in cap space to absorb Iggyís contract - and the Warriors sent Memphis a first-round pick to take in Iguodala

    Now, Memphis is flipping Iggy for a 23-year old Justise Winslow.

    #ValueOfCapSpace (Knicks signed Bobby Portis to a $15 million contract)


    Whatís better? Winslow and a 1st or nothing? We will see what we get for Portis.... but methinks itíll be same haul we got for Noah V (zilch).

    When youíre a bottom feeder.... you absorb contracts for assets. You donít sign vets on a merry go round year by year crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    An example why Mills got canned and why Perry is next....

    The Grizzlies used $17 million in cap space to absorb Iggyís contract - and the Warriors sent Memphis a first-round pick to take in Iguodala

    Now, Memphis is flipping Iggy for a 23-year old Justise Winslow.

    #ValueOfCapSpace (Knicks signed Bobby Portis to a $15 million contract)


    Whatís better? Winslow and a 1st or nothing? We will see what we get for Portis.... but methinks itíll be same haul we got for Noah V (zilch).

    When youíre a bottom feeder.... you absorb contracts for assets. You donít sign vets on a merry go round year by year crap.
    Well put. Memphis isnít done either. Held Crowder and Solomon Hill out tonight. Likely trading them for more assets. Memphis has a good young team and continuing to build for the future. Weíre always a step behind what is common sense to other franchises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Well put. Memphis isnít done either. Held Crowder and Solomon Hill out tonight. Likely trading them for more assets. Memphis has a good young team and continuing to build for the future. Weíre always a step behind what is common sense to other franchises.
    Poor MEM, right. After Gasol-Conley run... 2 dark years... Boom. Rebuild done.

    Good news from Wojo...

    ď... As much as (Dolan has) coveted Masai Ujiri, the hurdles it would take to get there, from draft compensation to Toronto allowing him out of his contract to Masai wanting to do this, he seems that he has lost his desire to go forward and chase that,Ē Wojnarowski said.ď

    I love it. For once we play it cool. Ballís in your court Masai. If you had any desire to be in NY.... your window for next 5-10 years might close shut if you donít force your way out.

    Dolan sending message he wonít wait for you nor will he attempt a massive exchange of assets to bring you here.

    You wonít use us as leverage!

    So, if he truly wants NY stage to maximize his Africa charity venture.... well, itís time to cash in your equity in TOR and ďaskĒ that they let you go for a reasonable cost (Trier and a couple second rounders).

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    Trier has been mis-coach by the Knicks. Yeah, that Fiz and FO fault from last year "Past the damn ball". Dotson and Trier should be sharing the SG position. Both can score the ball. Just run plays that don't let Trier IZO. Masai isn't the answer for the Knicks, IMO. Simply because of the cost and timing. Our past is with someone else and they are free with a cost on them. That is also the case for a coach. Miller isn't the answer and should be let go with Perry... Today or at the end of the season. This would mean No Trades are to be made on today.

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    Woj reports that Leon Rose has emerged as a top candidate for Knicks front office. He represents KAT and Russell, as well as a lot of other guys. How would this even work?

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    Typical Knicks.... Letís get a guy who has never been an exec and see what happens.

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    After parting ways with Steve Mills on Tuesday, the New York Knicks are set to hire CAA player agent Leon Rose as their new president of basketball operations, per ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski and Ramona Shelburne.
    Rose is LeBron James' former agent, and currently represents some of the top players in the league -- Joel Embiid, Karl-Anthony Towns, Chris Paul, Devin Booker and Carmelo Anthony.
    The two parties are expected to begin negotiations shortly after the end of the trade deadline on Thursday, according to the report. A formal deal is not expected be announced right away.
    Rose does not have experience in an NBA front office but would be in keeping with the current trend of player agents moving to that side of the operation, following in the footsteps of Bob Myers with the Golden State Warriors and Rob Pelinka with the Los Angeles Lakers.
    The Knicks parted ways with Mills on Tuesday, just two days before the trade deadline. He had served as the president of basketball operations since 2017, with his tenure as executive vice president and general manager dating back to 2013. During that time, the Knicks have gone a combined 117-365 without a single playoff appearance.

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    This got real unnerving real fast. Weíre turning the team over to Leon Rose of CAA and possibly also to Worldwide Wes? This wonít end well.

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    Knicks reported to be hiring CAA player agent Leon Rose to be the next team president along with a guy named William Wesley. Dolan goes for another guy with no experience as a GM, I hope he's brilliant but I have my doubts about not being more patient to get Ujiri or Presti.
    Knicks donít wait for long: CAA agent Leon Rose to be next team president





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    The search for the next Knicks president lasted just two days. The organization is nearing a deal to name Leon Rose, the co-head of CAA basketball, its next team president, league sources told The Athleticís Shams Charania. New York is also finalizing plans to bring William Wesley into the basketball operations structure, sources told Charania.
    Rose is among the most prominent player agents in the NBA. He represents Carmelo Anthony, Karl-Anthony Towns, Devin Booker and others.
    The Knicks have had longstanding ties with CAA in the past, including when Anthony was a centerpiece of the organization. Rose has been a frequent figure at The Garden.
    His hire would represent a quick decision for the franchise, although he will not take over immediately. The Knicks fired Steve Mills Tuesday and quickly set upon a search for his replacement. That they were considering a player agent as their next president became clear. Raptors president Masai Ujiri had long been considered a desired candidate, but the Knicks moved too quickly to make that a reality with the season in swing and still months to go until Torontoís season would end.
    General manager Scott Perry has been running basketball operations since Mills was let go. The NBAís trade deadline will come Thursday at 3 p.m. ET, and the Knicks could be busy, including a decision on whether to keep Marcus Morris, who will be a free agent this summer.
    Now, news of the intention to hire Rose has come out just hours before the deadline.
    The Knicks have famously been unable to land top free agents in recent years, including last summer. Instead, they have landed one of the leagueís top agents, who has connections to the kind of players they should hope to sign.




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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    This got real unnerving real fast. Weíre turning the team over to Leon Rose of CAA and possibly also to Worldwide Wes? This wonít end well.
    Things donít end well at MSG bc they donít start well.

    Has Dolan been interviewing for months? Why the rush here? Typical Knicks...

    Good news... In 2024, weíll be clearing house and starting from scratch again.

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    Rose will be looking for a GM, word around camp fire reports.

    Marc Stein:

    Leon Rose has no front-office experience ... but if the Knicks were not prepared to undertake a protracted pursuit or Masai Ujiri or any other established name under contract they have at least managed to poach one of the biggest names possible from the player agent ranks


    Ian Bagley

    While there might be concern about hiring a player-agent, Leon Rose's decades of experience should help him as the new team president for the Knicks: "You could've done a lot worse, this seems like a good hire because of his reputation around the league" (@IanBegley)


    Frank Isola

    Leon Rose maintained a good relationship with Jim Dolan over the last 10 years. Obviously, getting Carmelo to the Knicks was a huge part of it. Heís got ties to a lot of coaches including JVG, Thibodeau, Mark Jackson and John Calipari.



    Bill Simmons

    The Knicks turning their team over to Leon Rose and Worldwide Wes almost broke my brain. Itís actually smart. I canít believe it. I wrote about Wes in Feb. 2010. This is one of my favorite stories.


    Wojo

    Knicks adopting a model that has gained popularity w/ the successes of Bob Myers (Warriors) and Rob Pelinka (Lakers). Rose has been one of the top agents in basketball for years, w/ clients including Joel Embiid, Chris Paul, Devin Booker, Karl-Anthony Towns and Carmelo Anthony.

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    Sounds like the overwhelming and almost universal thinking is that Dolan finally made a sound decision. Interesting.

    Given that the timing and quick decision opened us up for more ridicule, for naturally there was no reason to rush this decision...

    But, despite the quick hammer... there is praise abound all over internet from a myriad of voices. Oítay! Letís go.

    And, the really good news, Rose gets to veto any trade today he deems bad for our future.

    Old Knicks wouldíve hired Rose day after Mills made a trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    This got real unnerving real fast. We’re turning the team over to Leon Rose of CAA and possibly also to Worldwide Wes? This won’t end well.
    I don't like the hire and yes just think of how disastrous this could be if it doesn't work? As if we could think of anything coming close to what we've experienced this surely could topple everything
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    Obviously, he's got a lot under the cap working for the biggest names in the NBA. He should be able to attract talent with those relationships like Pelinka does in LA. If he assembles the right staff, and I assume he's connected with everyone in the league and has opinions about them maybe this will work with him being a recruiter and another being the GM. Anyone know what Worldwide Wes is going to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Obviously, he's got a lot under the cap working for the biggest names in the NBA. He should be able to attract talent with those relationships like Pelinka does in LA. If he assembles the right staff, and I assume he's connected with everyone in the league and has opinions about them maybe this will work with him being a recruiter and another being the GM. Anyone know what Worldwide Wes is going to do?
    Spend the next 3 months convincing the Knicks to hire John Calipari?

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