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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    I imagine RJ would thrive in ATL and CHI and those 2 would be putrid here. Donít forget you need to handicap and give RJ the Knicks benefit. This team is awful and has been for decades.... began season with zero leadership.

    RJ is raw with flaws. Letís hope we do a better job developing him than Frank and Knox.

    I bet in 3 years, nobody is gonna complain a 22 yr-old RJ is a NYK.
    I really donít get the RJ criticism, itís baffling. Unlike Knits and Knox whoíve been pure Trash at least RJ can still produce in light of all the darkness concerning this organization

    Itís not like the other rookies a taking their teams to new heights with maybe exception to Ja and Zion coming on strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    I imagine RJ would thrive in ATL and CHI and those 2 would be putrid here. Don’t forget you need to handicap and give RJ the Knicks benefit. This team is awful and has been for decades.... began season with zero leadership.

    RJ is raw with flaws. Let’s hope we do a better job developing him than Frank and Knox.

    I bet in 3 years, nobody is gonna complain a 22 yr-old RJ is a NYK.
    I've been a fan since he was drafted and think he's still got the potential to be an AS but right now some guys drafted behind him are better players than him. Not a bad game tonight, I'm hoping he finishes strong and continues that upward trend he had in JAN before he got injured.

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    It always 3 years or 5 years!! What about right now do we see a player worth #3 pick. The answer is NO!!

    Need to handicap and give the Knicks benefit? What is the handicap and the benefit??

    RJ has been all year this great young player that is NBA READY!! Now all of a sudden he is raw and flawed. Well he didn't get raw and flawed over the last few months. He was that way when we draft him.

    Surprisingly I have been hearing comments from sports reporters that there is a notation that the Knicks should have trade back instead of drafting RJ. Will the New Front Office hold RJ in high esteem as the fired front office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    I really don’t get the RJ criticism, it’s baffling. Unlike Knits and Knox who’ve been pure Trash at least RJ can still produce in light of all the darkness concerning this organization

    It’s not like the other rookies a taking their teams to new heights with maybe exception to Ja and Zion coming on strong
    If you are a Knicks fan then first of all know what the team NEEDED!! Not what they wanted and that wasn't even RJ. We needed a PF not PG, SG or SF. That criticism comes from the fact that wasn't done on the 1st or 2nd picks.

    You trying to make lemonade out of a lemon but you got to have some sugar. It simple and I say it again "Move the Needle" for a #3 pick.
    He doesn't make the team better.

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    DeAndre Hunter is 22, playing with Young and Collins.... I would hope he would be having a better rookie year. Otherwise ATL has a major bust.

    But, even now, I prefer RJ to Cam and Hunter.

    Why donít free agents come to NYC? The pressure! How would Hunter handle being ďthe saviorĒ if we took him 4th? Colby White?

    Get Rose and Thibs in here.... letís see where RJís game is when heís 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    I really donít get the RJ criticism, itís baffling. Unlike Knits and Knox whoíve been pure Trash at least RJ can still produce in light of all the darkness concerning this organization

    Itís not like the other rookies a taking their teams to new heights with maybe exception to Ja and Zion coming on strong

    Itís mind boggling, to be honest. No wonder the fan base is accused of not having the heart or stomach for a true rebuild.

    Heís arguably the most exciting rookie prospect weíve had in 25 years... he may not appear as talented as KP, but letís remember that KP didnít have the mental fortitude to make it here. KP was really immature compared to RJ....

    Trust the process... Look at PHI... youíll miss on most your lottery picks.... it takes time.

    We all wanted Zion or JA instead. We all were open to a trade, although I havenít heard of a single trade proposal floated our way. There wasnít a team offering us much of anything for the third pick.

    Even now, if I could do a re-draft, I still take RJ 3rd over anybody else that was drafted after him.

    Itís not who has a better rookie year.... Itís who will have the better career. Remember, RJ should be a freshman at Duke this year and would Obviously be the number 1 Pick in this draft class.

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    Think KP will have the better career than RJ if he can remain healthy. One of the things I like though about RJ is I think he'll be an iron man similar to The Beard, did you see him in the game tonight, when he sustained that leg injury, you couldn't get him out of the game... think RJ will be like that.

    My criticism of him is I wish he came out of the gate faster as other 3rd picks ala Doncic, Tatum, Embiid, Jalen Brown a 22nd ranking just doesn't light my fire for a 3rd pick regardless of whether you're comparing him to guys older than him.

    Season isn't over and I hope he catches fire the remainder of the season. One thing the Knicks are doing is giving him plenty of opportunity to develop, it's up to him to improve.
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    Thumbs down There's a good reason why Knicks fans yell "Sell the Team!"

    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Itís mind boggling, to be honest. No wonder the fan base is accused of not having the heart or stomach for a true rebuild.

    Heís arguably the most exciting rookie prospect weíve had in 25 years... he may not appear as talented as KP, but letís remember that KP didnít have the mental fortitude to make it here. KP was really immature compared to RJ....

    Trust the process... Look at PHI... youíll miss on most your lottery picks.... it takes time.

    We all wanted Zion or JA instead. We all were open to a trade, although I havenít heard of a single trade proposal floated our way. There wasnít a team offering us much of anything for the third pick.

    Even now, if I could do a re-draft, I still take RJ 3rd over anybody else that was drafted after him.

    Itís not who has a better rookie year.... Itís who will have the better career. Remember, RJ should be a freshman at Duke this year and would Obviously be the number 1 Pick in this draft class.

    I have to agree .. all the negative comment on rookie RJ performance are a bit immature being the status of the Knicks club.
    Tonight, I watched a Knicks team performance that had no concept of words DEFENSE or Team-Ball!
    Did Miller give-up coaching defense the last two games, by putting 4 non-defensive-players in a lineup all game ???

    The Small-Ball Rockets shot 50% from the FG tonite .. Hitting the majority of their shots from easy inside scoring.
    The Rockets grab a 72-57 Halftime lead! Does that score look like the Knicks were defending the defensive-end of the court? NO! Harden practically scored a layup on everyone in the Knicks rotation tonight. No fan should single out one players performance in a Knicks chaotic 10 Man rotation, especially single out a rookie when u have several veteran bums performance in the rotation that are bad for the rookies NBA growth. The Knicks silly program has been destroying the fundamentals of all their rookies, and young-core players for years.
    Truth be said .. The Knicks haven't had a real NBA Head-coach since Dantoni quit in 2011-12 season, when Melo went crying upstairs to Dolan that coach Dantoni was making Lin-Sanity a bigger star then him. The same ole Bull Melo did on the Nuggets to AI, Camby, Billups, and Kenyon Martin.

    The Knicks biggest problem wasn't top FA star players don't want to sign with the Knicks.
    The Knicks biggest problem the past two decades has been no NBA experience President, or GM, or head-coach want to put up with Dolan's crazy decision-making each season in the Knicks organization. Dolan just Fired the President he hired 3 years ago, and Dolan just fired the headcoach he hired 2 yrs ago. Now! Dolan will make some drastic changes come off-season, didn't Dolan make some drastic changes last offseason to the roster, and the offseason before that one too. SMH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyaman View Post
    Starting Knicks lineup .. DSJ RJ Harkless Randle Gibson
    now there's an all-star lineup. if i ever saw one...

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    Looks like RJ led the team in points and minutes last night against an elite Western Conference team. But heís awful need to trade him what a mistake....no wonder free agents donít want to come to NYC the fan base is dumber than the owner

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    We lost a game against a good street team last night. When your suppose prize rookie has to play more minutes than anybody else on the team to led the team in scoring "What does that say"? The only way he amasses his stat's is to play more minutes than he deserve. No one talk about all the defense lapes that he makes and should be playing at all. His defense should keep him on the bench but they must play him... tell him to shoot as much as he want, tell him he doesn't have to defend his position or player/man. WHY?? Because no one like to say or look like it a failure or mistake.

    Don't shove what I view as a mistake down my throat and tell me to like it. Especially when I know a little something about talent and situational BB. Example: If you car broke down and you need a water pump/fuel pump and someone bring you a battery and your battery is good. You still have the same problem. Our problem was a PG, SG, SF but a PF. Not one of you 'Mr. Know-it-all' were says anything about that. Not a word out of any of you about what this team really needed. You write and jump up and down talking about one player. Maybe you forgot but this is a team sport, a team sport, a team sport. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!

    This fan base has been desperate for something to cheer about...No matter what it is. RJ has been that one thing to cheer for all that are in that catagory. The harsh reality is that we shouldn't have drafted him but trade back. This doesn't set right with some of you and that ok. You and FO are in the same boat. Of course it nothing you could have done to stop FO from drafting RJ but you don't have to be complicit if you know BB. We know FO is the worst FO in BB but are you the dumbest fans in BB? What is unfortunate is that those of us who disagree with the selection have to live with it like all of the other mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paris401 View Post
    now there's an all-star lineup. if i ever saw one...
    So true!

    RJ was fantastic in the first Q. Sits for part of 2nd.... then nobody would pass him the ball...

    https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2...arter-at-least

    Scroll down page to final clip.... watch the ďoffenseĒ run for 16 seconds.... go nowhere.... ball never reversed side, where RJ wide open.

    RJ leads teams in minutes bc heís probably 1 of 2-3 Knicks worth keeping around. Everybody else is just an NBA body.

    HOU now 24-3 vs NYK last 27 games...

    85 days until draft lottery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    So true!

    RJ was fantastic in the first Q. Sits for part of 2nd.... then nobody would pass him the ball...

    https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2...arter-at-least

    Scroll down page to final clip.... watch the ďoffenseĒ run for 16 seconds.... go nowhere.... ball never reversed side, where RJ wide open.

    RJ leads teams in minutes bc heís probably 1 of 2-3 Knicks worth keeping around. Everybody else is just an NBA body.

    HOU now 24-3 vs NYK last 27 games...

    85 days until draft lottery.
    Um um um. . So the ďteamĒ freezes out RJ after a great first quarter cause they jealous. So now we are stuck reading long-winded, dumb-ass posts from trolls like ďDumbRaiderĒ saying RJ sucks. No, our franchise sucks from top to bottom. RJ is a 19 year old innocent victim. No wonder KP wanted out. He saw the writing on the wall. SMH.

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    RJ is always standing at the arc wanting someone to pass him the ball so he can shot a brick. Maybe you forgot who are the problems on this team in the players only meeting. Let me help RJ and Randle. If you have never played the game those are the type of things that destory a team internally. It shows the level of BB knowledge on your part 'chief88' as well as other. There countless time when many players are open and what does RJ do shoot. So if you going to complain then make sure you got an argument. Quit using excuses for RJ lack of being a well rounded player. 'He young', 'He only 19', 'He innocent victim'... Isn't Dotson an innocent victim of RJ being on this team? When did Dotson lose his starting SG job? Funny nobody in this forum has ever said WHO OR WHY!! It certainly not from being out PLAYED.

    "Watch the offense go nowhere" you act like that the 1st time this has happen. Most of the time it because of the IZO from RJ. We aren't a good team because nobody in authority knows chemistry. Just because you got a player who can score a little doesn't mean he is a good fit for the team.

    RJ leading in minutes don't have a thing to do worth keeping him around. It about not admitting a mistake was made and now there is a COVER-UP. We all know what a cover up is and how it done. Especially went it comes to Perry or have most you forgotten. There 'Super Mario' and 'Payton' then we have the 2019 draft. "NBA Body" isn't that one of the great attributes for RJ? Now it a strike against all the other Knick players. You said IT!!

    If there is an honest discussion about talent to keep. LET'S US BE CLEAR(my Bernie Sander saying)!! Our best all around player is:
    1. Dotson
    2 Frank
    3. MRob
    All three play better defense than RJ(who plays no defense). If you want to mine down deeper there an argument for Randle and Knox of late. But if you really want to be honest Trier is a lot better player than RJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    RJ is always standing at the arc wanting someone to pass him the ball so he can shot a brick. Maybe you forgot who are the problems on this team in the players only meeting. Let me help RJ and Randle. If you have never played the game those are the type of things that destory a team internally. It shows the level of BB knowledge on your part 'chief88' as well as other. There countless time when many players are open and what does RJ do shoot. So if you going to complain then make sure you got an argument. Quit using excuses for RJ lack of being a well rounded player. 'He young', 'He only 19', 'He innocent victim'... Isn't Dotson an innocent victim of RJ being on this team? When did Dotson lose his starting SG job? Funny nobody in this forum has ever said WHO OR WHY!! It certainly not from being out PLAYED.

    "Watch the offense go nowhere" you act like that the 1st time this has happen. Most of the time it because of the IZO from RJ. We aren't a good team because nobody in authority knows chemistry. Just because you got a player who can score a little doesn't mean he is a good fit for the team.

    RJ leading in minutes don't have a thing to do worth keeping him around. It about not admitting a mistake was made and now there is a COVER-UP. We all know what a cover up is and how it done. Especially went it comes to Perry or have most you forgotten. There 'Super Mario' and 'Payton' then we have the 2019 draft. "NBA Body" isn't that one of the great attributes for RJ? Now it a strike against all the other Knick players. You said IT!!

    If there is an honest discussion about talent to keep. LET'S US BE CLEAR(my Bernie Sander saying)!! Our best all around player is:
    1. Dotson
    2 Frank
    3. MRob
    All three play better defense than RJ(who plays no defense). If you want to mine down deeper there an argument for Randle and Knox of late. But if you really want to be honest Trier is a lot better player than RJ.
    Mods please ban this assclown

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