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    Default Knick potential trade for Donovan Mitchell:

    Well all you Donovan Mitchell fans here a chance(Maybe) to get the player most feel we should have drafted.

    https://www.sny.tv/knicks/news/heres-what-a-potential-knicks-trade-package-for-donovan-mitchell-could-look-like/313253034

    Question: Do you have the guts to pull the trigger on this trade? Please read what the asking price might be for Mitchell.

    When I first saw the asking price... the answer was YES. Because it got rid of JR. The two 1st rounder are a definite NO. Maybe one of the 1st rounder but not two.

    Ok, let see how much you guys REALLY want Mitchell. LET HEAR IT!!

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    Both first rounders this season, Knits or Knox, Randle. Thatís my final offer.

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    This is the year to trade those picks with a weak draft, going to be hard to pry him away from Utah though and we'll have to get in line with others, he'll be in demand if he's made available. If I were the Sixers I'd trade Simmons to get him but the salaries don't match so it will be difficult to do.

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    Go read what the article said it would take to get him. Then tell me what You think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    Go read what the article said it would take to get him. Then tell me what You think.
    I’m skeptical their relationship is unsalvageable, seems like a fluff story to generate clicks to me. If I’m the Jazz I’d look to be trading Gobert before I trading DM also like the story mentions. Gobert is due for a huge extension next year, I believe close to 200M based on his DPOY accolades, I’d think hard about whether he’s worth one of these super max contracts. To me there are probably less than a handful of players that are worth that kind of dough and he’s not one of them.

    If the Jazz do try to trade DM, I think that Knicks offer of 2 picks and RJ is woefully inadequate compared to his market value and what other teams might offer. He’s the type of player that teams will pull off a blockbuster trade of superstars ala Lakers/Pels, Clips/Thunder. Mentioned a Simmons/DM trade as one if the Sixers decide to move on from a guy that shoots 50% from the FT line and who I predicted might never develop a perimeter game. Jazz would have to give DM that extension before the salaries match before they could do that trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    I’m skeptical their relationship is unsalvageable, seems like a fluff story to generate clicks to me. If I’m the Jazz I’d look to be trading Gobert before I trading DM also like the story mentions. Gobert is due for a huge extension next year, I believe close to 200M based on his DPOY accolades, I’d think hard about whether he’s worth one of these super max contracts. To me there are probably less than a handful of players that are worth that kind of dough and he’s not one of them.

    If the Jazz do try to trade DM, I think that Knicks offer of 2 picks and RJ is woefully inadequate compared to his market value and what other teams might offer. He’s the type of player that teams will pull off a blockbuster trade of superstars ala Lakers/Pels, Clips/Thunder. Mentioned a Simmons/DM trade as one if the Sixers decide to move on from a guy that shoots 50% from the FT line and who I predicted might never develop a perimeter game. Jazz would have to give DM that extension before the salaries match before they could do that trade.
    Got the same feeling about this story being more fluff than anything else. Writer like to generate rumors and conflicts during times when there isn't much to action happening.

    I'm not sure about trading Gobert over DM. DPOY are hard to come by in this league so maybe replacing DM may be easier.

    Two picks and RJ is woefully inadequate... I think that would be a little to rich for me. RJ and one 1st rounder plus I'm for drafting Edwards so I'm trading DM for that pick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    Got the same feeling about this story being more fluff than anything else. Writer like to generate rumors and conflicts during times when there isn't much to action happening.

    I'm not sure about trading Gobert over DM. DPOY are hard to come by in this league so maybe replacing DM may be easier.

    Two picks and RJ is woefully inadequate... I think that would be a little to rich for me. RJ and one 1st rounder plus I'm for drafting Edwards so I'm trading DM for that pick.
    Even before the rumors of this rift between Gobert and DM, I suggested the Jazz had a tough decision on Gobert because heís eligible for one of those super-max extensions next year that will pay him in the neighborhood of 200M. He may be the DPOY but to me heís not worth that kind of dough, doesnít impact the game like a super-max guy should imo. Going to be one of those side stories for next off-season, does Rudy demand a supermax deal or is he flexible to allow the Jazz a little more cap space.

    mafra posted that Yahoo is reporting Gobert/DM had a good phone call to patch up their differences which doesnít surprise me so this whole trade speculation is probably moot anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Even before the rumors of this rift between Gobert and DM, I suggested the Jazz had a tough decision on Gobert because he’s eligible for one of those super-max extensions next year that will pay him in the neighborhood of 200M. He may be the DPOY but to me he’s not worth that kind of dough, doesn’t impact the game like a super-max guy should imo. Going to be one of those side stories for next off-season, does Rudy demand a supermax deal or is he flexible to allow the Jazz a little more cap space.

    mafra posted that Yahoo is reporting Gobert/DM had a good phone call to patch up their differences which doesn’t surprise me so this whole trade speculation is probably moot anyway.
    Bobby Marks reporting Goberts supermax contract extension will be worth $247.3M next year. If he wants to be traded let him tell the Jazz pay me that or trade me, Jazz would be crazy to pay him that and he's going to be disappointed because I think every team in the league is going to have the same opinion as me that he's not worth that kind of dough.

    He's also eligible for that contract this off season and not next off season. I think he's going to sign a deal with someone in the neighborhood of 4yrs/160M with someone if not the Jazz.
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    Bagley says a rival exec said it would cost RJ and 2 first rounders or 3 first rounders... thatís the starting point.

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    RJ or MRob... so how bad do you want Mitchell?? As much as I want RJ gone that a lot for another player who IMO doesn't fit.
    I think we wait and trade RJ to whoever would pick Edward in this coming draft. Now that is with the focus on definitely drafting Wiseman 1st no matter what else happens.

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    I agree. No sense in blowing our hand the first opportunity that presents itself. We wait and make a move when we can gather 3 top options... when we are on the verge of assembling the 2nd and 3rd piece, thatís when you act.

    Take RJ and a DAL first... but you donít get RJ or MRob plus even 1 lottery selection. We ainít that close so we can walk away...

    After all, thereís always a player available via trade... a very good to all star player...
    Always. Odds are RJ will only increase his value next season... so save that chip for when you are ready to go all-in that season.

    But, if they said give me RJ, the LAC first and a DAL first? Would that change your mind? Iím not sure Marky or Mitchell are those types of guys tho, where you mortgage a bunch of assets. AD and Giannis or Embiid. Thatís those type of trades.

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    Agreed 'no RJ or MRob plus a 1 lottery selection'. IMO, sense we only have MRob at the center position, he is definitely not included in this trade. RJ on the other hand might but there still that lottery selection which I'm against. Correct about always a player available via trade and RJ(hopefully) increase in value.

    "But, if they said give me RJ, the LAC first and a Dal first"? My answer is No! I still think two 1st rounder and RJ is too much for Mitchell. I believe if Edward in on the board after we draft Wiseman(wishful thinking, huh) then we approach that team with a trade for that pick with RJ being the bait.

    Now if Utah said I'll take RJ and LAC first or one of Dal first. I would make that trade. Then turn around on draft night and trade Mitchell for Edwards after we draft Wiseman(#1 must obtain).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    Agreed 'no RJ or MRob plus a 1 lottery selection'. IMO, sense we only have MRob at the center position, he is definitely not included in this trade. RJ on the other hand might but there still that lottery selection which I'm against. Correct about always a player available via trade and RJ(hopefully) increase in value.

    "But, if they said give me RJ, the LAC first and a Dal first"? My answer is No! I still think two 1st rounder and RJ is too much for Mitchell. I believe if Edward in on the board after we draft Wiseman(wishful thinking, huh) then we approach that team with a trade for that pick with RJ being the bait.

    Now if Utah said I'll take RJ and LAC first or one of Dal first. I would make that trade. Then turn around on draft night and trade Mitchell for Edwards after we draft Wiseman(#1 must obtain).
    Dark, you’re talking about the Clips and DAL picks which are going to be late first round picks and RJ. Utah is not even going to talk to the Knicks until we throw in MRob or replace those picks with our own picks which will probably be lottery picks. DAL and Clips pick and RJ would be an insane deal for an AS like DM.

    You wouldn't do our unprotected pick this year, DAL IN 2021 and RJ? I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Dark, you’re talking about the Clips and DAL picks which are going to be late first round picks and RJ. Utah is not even going to talk to the Knicks until we throw in MRob or replace those picks with our own picks which will probably be lottery picks. DAL and Clips pick and RJ would be an insane deal for an AS like DM.

    You wouldn't do our unprotected pick this year, DAL IN 2021 and RJ? I would.
    No, No, No!!
    I said, RJ and LAC first OR one of Dal first. Yeah, that all I'm willing to pay for DM. I'm going to use RJ or DM on draft night to get Edward always so it doesn't matter. RJ or DM doesn't fit the core of what I see in the Knicks. No MRob because he is more valuable than RJ.

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    You would have to trade RJ for DM, if all Utah asked for in return was a lye first rounder. Of course.

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