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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Dark, you’re talking about the Clips and DAL picks which are going to be late first round picks and RJ. Utah is not even going to talk to the Knicks until we throw in MRob or replace those picks with our own picks which will probably be lottery picks. DAL and Clips pick and RJ would be an insane deal for an AS like DM.

    You wouldn't do our unprotected pick this year, DAL IN 2021 and RJ? I would.
    No, No, No!!
    I said, RJ and LAC first OR one of Dal first. Yeah, that all I'm willing to pay for DM. I'm going to use RJ or DM on draft night to get Edward always so it doesn't matter. RJ or DM doesn't fit the core of what I see in the Knicks. No MRob because he is more valuable than RJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    Got the same feeling about this story being more fluff than anything else. Writer like to generate rumors and conflicts during times when there isn't much to action happening.

    I'm not sure about trading Gobert over DM. DPOY are hard to come by in this league so maybe replacing DM may be easier.

    Two picks and RJ is woefully inadequate... I think that would be a little to rich for me. RJ and one 1st rounder plus I'm for drafting Edwards so I'm trading DM for that pick.
    Even before the rumors of this rift between Gobert and DM, I suggested the Jazz had a tough decision on Gobert because he’s eligible for one of those super-max extensions next year that will pay him in the neighborhood of 200M. He may be the DPOY but to me he’s not worth that kind of dough, doesn’t impact the game like a super-max guy should imo. Going to be one of those side stories for next off-season, does Rudy demand a supermax deal or is he flexible to allow the Jazz a little more cap space.

    mafra posted that Yahoo is reporting Gobert/DM had a good phone call to patch up their differences which doesn’t surprise me so this whole trade speculation is probably moot anyway.

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    The Utah Jazz are not moving either .... Gobert just said they recently spoke and they basically let bygones be bygones, so there's no rift.
    Hopefully for their sake, he is right. Mitchell was upset that Gobert was being an idiot but it looks like it has blown over.

    Having MitchRob's growing talent at center, the Knicks don't need Gobert's service.
    Trading RJ Barrett to the Utah Jazz head-coach Snyder will only improve young RJ Barrett's talent to become an All-Star player seasons earlier than staying a Knicks.
    If it was possible I would trade RJ Barrett and DSJ, plus Dallas pick for Donovan Mitchell, nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyaman View Post
    The Utah Jazz are not moving either .... Gobert just said they recently spoke and they basically let bygones be bygones, so there's no rift.
    Hopefully for their sake, he is right. Mitchell was upset that Gobert was being an idiot but it looks like it has blown over.

    Having MitchRob's growing talent at center, the Knicks don't need Gobert's service.
    Trading RJ Barrett to the Utah Jazz head-coach Snyder will only improve young RJ Barrett's talent to become an All-Star player seasons earlier than staying a Knicks.
    If it was possible I would trade RJ Barrett and DSJ, plus Dallas pick for Donovan Mitchell, nothing else.
    I agree with the trade of RJ for Mitchell which is a good move for both team(somewhat). Now the other question is what do you do with Mitchell because I don't see him as a good fit for the Knicks either. You have mention in the past post that Mitchell is more of a combo guard than a true PG(that is what the conversation was about). Do you put him at the SG or PG? If the PG that mess with the chemistry of the Frank and others. At the SG is maybe to small for that position?

    Now if you decide to keep him at the PG then we still need a PF and do we stay pat at SG with Dotson and Trier? If we can sign Cousins and get Wiseman that would be a coup for us plus Mitchell. Not sure of the chemistry but it definitely worth a shot. We have been in worst situations.

    Tell me what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    I agree with the trade of RJ for Mitchell which is a good move for both team(somewhat). Now the other question is what do you do with Mitchell because I don't see him as a good fit for the Knicks either. You have mention in the past post that Mitchell is more of a combo guard than a true PG(that is what the conversation was about). Do you put him at the SG or PG? If the PG that mess with the chemistry of the Frank and others. At the SG is maybe to small for that position?

    Now if you decide to keep him at the PG then we still need a PF and do we stay pat at SG with Dotson and Trier? If we can sign Cousins and get Wiseman that would be a coup for us plus Mitchell. Not sure of the chemistry but it definitely worth a shot. We have been in worst situations.

    Tell me what you think.

    Wsup Dark .... Hope u are Staying-Safe out there .. the USA have over 700M carriers of COVIT19 SMH

    We all know combo-guard Donovan Mitchell has the NBA skills to run the point well as a starter SG.
    Donovan Mitchell performed extra-well in the past 3 season having a point-guard in the lineup .. Rubio, Conley, Mudiay, and Exum.

    The addition of Donovan Mitchell's guard service to the Knicks having a new head-coach Mark, or Trib, or even coach Atkinson, plus being able to put Mitchell & Frank tandem in the back-court as starter/finisher would give the Knicks an above .500 season.
    Plus Knicks having a complimentary high-scoring combo guard (Donovan Mitchell) would give the new head-coach the benefit to use 5 guards in the Knicks game rotation (Frank, Mitchell, Dotson, Trier, and DSJ) vs a lot of NBA opponents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyaman View Post
    Wsup Dark .... Hope u are Staying-Safe out there .. the USA have over 700M carriers of COVIT19 SMH

    We all know combo-guard Donovan Mitchell has the NBA skills to run the point well as a starter SG.
    Donovan Mitchell performed extra-well in the past 3 season having a point-guard in the lineup .. Rubio, Conley, Mudiay, and Exum.

    The addition of Donovan Mitchell's guard service to the Knicks having a new head-coach Mark, or Trib, or even coach Atkinson, plus being able to put Mitchell & Frank tandem in the back-court as starter/finisher would give the Knicks an above .500 season.
    Plus Knicks having a complimentary high-scoring combo guard (Donovan Mitchell) would give the new head-coach the benefit to use 5 guards in the Knicks game rotation (Frank, Mitchell, Dotson, Trier, and DSJ) vs a lot of NBA opponents.
    Wsup Kiya, thank for asking and I hope you are staying safe also.

    You bring up some very interesting point on Mitchell. He would open up some interesting combo possibility for the team. Never thought of a 5 guard small ball lineup. Three good scorer in Dotson, Mitchell and Trier would help Frank and DSJ with passing the ball. Not sure about DSJ because of he fells like he is entitle to be playing.

    I really would like to have Mudiay & Kornet back on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    Even before the rumors of this rift between Gobert and DM, I suggested the Jazz had a tough decision on Gobert because he’s eligible for one of those super-max extensions next year that will pay him in the neighborhood of 200M. He may be the DPOY but to me he’s not worth that kind of dough, doesn’t impact the game like a super-max guy should imo. Going to be one of those side stories for next off-season, does Rudy demand a supermax deal or is he flexible to allow the Jazz a little more cap space.

    mafra posted that Yahoo is reporting Gobert/DM had a good phone call to patch up their differences which doesn’t surprise me so this whole trade speculation is probably moot anyway.
    Bobby Marks reporting Goberts supermax contract extension will be worth $247.3M next year. If he wants to be traded let him tell the Jazz pay me that or trade me, Jazz would be crazy to pay him that and he's going to be disappointed because I think every team in the league is going to have the same opinion as me that he's not worth that kind of dough.

    He's also eligible for that contract this off season and not next off season. I think he's going to sign a deal with someone in the neighborhood of 4yrs/160M with someone if not the Jazz.
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