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    Exactly what I feel has been going on

    The players who were picked, signed, or history with Perry/Rose/Thibs are who weíre rocking with, regardless of principles

    Last edited by Broadway; Feb 06, 2021 at 21:57.

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    The rumors about Knicks trading for Derrick Rose seem more substantial than the usual made up Knicks rumors. If the Knicks acquire Rose, my hope is that he would come off the bench and Quickley would move to the starting lineup.

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    The Pistons are "close" to trading Rose to the New York Knicks, where the 32-year-old point guard will reunite with his former head coach Tom Thibodeau, The Athletic reported Saturday.

    Before the news broke, Pistons coach Dwane Casey said during his pregame interview that Rose would miss Saturday's road game against the Los Angeles Lakers due to personal reasons.

    Rose signed a two-year, $15 million deal with the Pistons in 2019, and averaged 18.1 points and 5.6 assists, his best marks in each category since 2011-12. He played in 50 of the Pistons' 66 games, starting 15.

    Detroit Free Press

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    The rumors about Knicks trading for Derrick Rose seem more substantial than the usual made up Knicks rumors. If the Knicks acquire Rose, my hope is that he would come off the bench and Quickley would move to the starting lineup.
    We canít trade Payton based on his opt out and resigning new 1yr deal. Detroit supposedly going to go young

    Could be a pick and player for Rose. I HATE THE TRADE even if we give up nothing

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    Rose is on an expiring 7.6 million dollar deal and Knicks have over 21 million in cap space remaining for this season. Sounds like they are trying to get a deal done by trading away DSJ.

    I think Roseís presence will reduce Paytonís minutes, but who knows.

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    Shams Charania saying Knicks are closing in on trade for Derrick Rose in exchange for DSJ and ďdraft compensationĒ.

    Draft compensation? Ríuh ríoh. 2nd round pick? It couldnít possibly be a 1st round pick, could it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Shams Charania saying Knicks are closing in on trade for Derrick Rose in exchange for DSJ and “draft compensation”.

    Draft compensation? R’uh r’oh. 2nd round pick? It couldn’t possibly be a 1st round pick, could it?
    AWFUL!!!!

    Would've hated it if it were Knits or Knox or even filler like Austin Rivers. Rose isn't needed, only complicated the guard situation and overall rotations. He's basically 33yrs old, expiring. Even if Thibs calls himself trying to save his career with a contract re-up next yr it's still garbage. Now had we traded Austin Rivers and Noel for SHOOTING and future draft considerations I'd understand.

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    I guess Detroit might be looking to get back the 2nd round pick they had previously traded to us.

    This trade, if it happens, will give us Roseís Bird rights to sign him for another 2 years without it counting against the salary cap. Thibs sure does love Derrick Rose.

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    On one hand, DSJ or Frank and a second isnít much for Rose, if Thibbs feels heíll have value here... I think this means we move IQ to Starting lineup and have Rose as the backup.

    But, with EP lately... is this really the course of action for Thibbs? I donít buy it....

    But, I agree with Broadway. Itís the principal here... a rebuilding team shouldnít be trading away a young lottery prospect and a draft pick for this type of player. It may not sound like much but perhaps thatís filler for a bigger deal, for a better player.

    You know, we all know what will happen. This move means less minutes for IQ, as we are stuck with a EP/DR rotation. Toss in fact Rose was here already and quit on the team.

    I donít want him!!! Maybe if CHI releases him, but I certainly wouldnít even trade them Keith Van Horn, if we had his trading rights still.

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    Iím reading final trade is Derrick Rose for DSJ and Charlotteís 2021 2nd round pick.

    Goodbye DSJ. I hated you out of the draft, briefly tried to support you, and then realized you are a tough player to support.

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    It's a moronic move. Don't give up any draft assests. No Thibs only needs to bring Noah out of retirement, so he can pretend it's 2012. This will delay Q's development because now he will bring Rose instead of Q off the bench as Elfrid' back-up. This is ship is going nowhere and you know why?: Everthing Dolan touches dies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat View Post
    It's a moronic move. Don't give up any draft assests. No Thibs only needs to bring Noah out of retirement, so he can pretend it's 2012. This will delay Q's development because now he will bring Rose instead of Q off the bench as Elfrid' back-up. This is ship is going nowhere and you know why?: Everthing Dolan touches dies.
    Sure is, we're going to learn soon why

    He mentioned his ability to develop youth by having a huge hand in D-Rose winning league MVP as the youngest player. He went out of his way to mention Rose...lol @Thibs
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    Rose averaging 14&4, and has embraced backup role. This has to come at expense of EPs minutes. Still dumb to trade assets for a guy we can sing in a few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Rose averaging 14&4, and has embraced backup role. This has to come at expense of EPs minutes. Still dumb to trade assets for a guy we can sing in a few months.

    Good point Maf, Rose was likely getting waived and we gave up assets for him. I mean if he was that important we could've pulled the trigger in the offseason, he'd have 20+ gms as a Knick already. I'm certain some in the front office didn't want to do the trade then but Thibs made sure to force the org's hand via sabotage. I believe it's also a reason Thibs wouldn't start IQ for it would've made it more challenging to justify trading for Rose who he's wanted all along. Don't be surprised if Rose ends up starting after 10gms or so

    WOW just WOW!!!

    Thibs the same guy who 2 weeks ago said it would be good for DSJ to go down to the G-League and get minutes for him and the Knicks...lol he didn't play one game. I'm pretty much off Thibs now and how sad for I figured he'd be a much different coach this time around

    The DSJ trade sets value for Knits and Knox...if we don't play them no way we get more than what Detroit gave us
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    DSJ, Ntilikina, and Knox are going to have very little trade value no matter what we do.

    Ntilikina is an 8.3 million dollar and DSJ is a 7.7 million dollar qualifying offer for next season. Knox is a little bit of a better deal with 1 season left on his rookie contract.
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