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    Default RJ not on the top 125 NBA Players:

    Again Sportswriters have left the Knicks so-called prize #3 draft pick off the top 125 NBA player, Why?? After receiving NO votes for the ROY. After not being named to any of the 3 All-Rookie teams(I know). And now this stub. Are the Sportswriters trying to tell the Knicks F.O. something? I think so!! That they see thru all of the B.S. and Hype that has been spread by F.O. From Draft night mistake of not trading back the TO preseason practices(suppose to be competition) TO the first game of that year which he started at PG and minutes into the game which to SG, etc, etc, etc.

    So are there still some Sportswriters that are knowledgeable BB people out that know talent when they see it. Not a question. F.O. has done a nice job of spin to fans that don't know talent and take the word and judgement of there team PR. Even in this article the writer is trying to spin a good face. How do you get all of the Sportswriters to omit RJ from the ROY voting, From the 3 All-Rookie team and Now this. There needs to be a moment of silent to just take this in because it doesn't seem like this is a conspiracy. This isn't a good sign.

    This F.O. is dead in the water for the next 5 years which is unfortunate. Maybe Dolan will see what Perry and L. Rose aren't the answers to our problems. No Real BB people!!

    NY Knicks: Responding to RJ Barrett being left off The Athletic's top 125 players (dailyknicks.com)

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    RJ made great strides last year solidifying my hope that he becomes a future AS. Something he has that the sports writers never take into account in these ranking systems and a traits Mike Breen always mentions when talking about RJ is his maturity, intelligence and hard work, these traits are going to fulfill his playing potential.

    Here is that full list of The Athletics top 125, to me RJ is as good as some of those on that list. IQ better than RJ currently? I doubt it.

    Here is the Tiers list in full. Again, my apologies for not having made it clear earlier that within each sub tier, players are ordered alphabetically by first name rather than ranked. I regret any angst or confusion that may have caused.
    2021 NBA Player Tiers: The Top 125
    PLAYER TEAM TIER LAST YEAR BORD$ EPM WINS EPM OEPM ODPM RAPM RANK ORAPM ORAPM RANK DRAPM DRAPM RANK
    Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL 1A 1A $71.6 11.8 5.5 4.1 1.4 6.4 3 2.3 30 4.1 2
    Kevin Durant BKN 1A 1B $34.8 6.2 4.9 4.6 0.3 6.5 2 5.5 2 1.0 95
    LeBron James LAL 1A 1A $47.9 10.1 6.9 4.5 2.4 6.0 4 3.2 17 2.9 10
    James Harden BKN 1B 1A $50.3 7.8 4.5 4.9 -0.4 5.0 9 4.7 3 0.3 231
    Kawhi Leonard LAC 1B 1A $51.7 11.6 6.5 5.1 1.4 5.8 5 4.4 6 1.4 56
    Nikola Jokic DEN 1B 2A $51.8 18.4 7.9 6.9 1.1 3.1 33 2.9 22 0.2 256
    Stephen Curry GSW 1B 1B $34.5 14.6 6.9 7.5 -0.6 5.7 6 4.7 4 1.0 97
    Anthony Davis LAL 2A 2A $44.9 4.7 3.0 0.8 2.1 2.2 60 1.1 106 1.1 86
    Joel Embiid PHI 2A 2B $46.3 10.2 6.4 4.4 2.0 4.8 11 2.2 37 2.6 11
    Luka Doncic DAl 2A 2A $51.8 12.9 5.3 5.3 0.0 2.0 71 3.5 12 -1.6 711
    Damian Lillard POR 2B 2B $45.5 14.5 5.8 6.7 -0.9 4.6 13 5.8 1 -1.3 691
    Jimmy Butler MIA 2B 2B $40.3 11.1 6.4 3.4 3.0 4.2 17 2.2 35 1.9 28
    Paul George LAC 2B 2C $39.9 10.2 5.1 3.3 1.8 7.0 1 3.6 11 3.4 5
    Rudy Gobert UTA 2B 2C $41.9 15.6 7.5 1.2 6.2 5.3 8 1.1 103 4.1 1
    Bam Adebayo MIA 2C 3A $30.3 8.6 2.9 1.2 1.7 2.6 45 0.9 130 1.7 40
    Chris Paul PHX 2C 2C $36.2 10.1 3.7 3.1 0.6 5.4 7 3.2 18 2.3 19
    Jayson Tatum BOS 2C 2C $50.7 8.9 2.7 2.9 -0.2 5.0 10 3.2 16 1.8 33
    Khris Middleton MIL 2C 3A $30.8 6.9 1.5 1.7 -0.2 2.3 54 1.8 49 0.6 164
    Kyrie Irving BKN 2C 3A $35.8 9.5 4.4 4.6 -0.2 2.1 66 2.5 26 -0.4 558
    Devin Booker PHX 3A 3A $35.0 6.3 1.1 2.2 -1.1 2.4 50 4.6 5 -2.2 743
    Jrue Holiday MIL 3A 3A $34.7 9.4 4.2 2.5 1.7 3.9 19 3.0 21 0.9 123
    Trae Young ATL 3A 3B $39.3 9.1 3.3 4.7 -1.4 0.0 344 3.8 8 -3.8 755
    Zion Williamson NOP 3A 3B $37.5 10.2 4.4 3.8 0.6 1.9 77 2.4 29 -0.6 586
    Bradley Beal WAS 3B 3A $33.8 8.6 2.9 4.2 -1.3 1.5 106 4.3 7 -2.8 751
    Donovan Mitchell UTA 3B 3B $34.8 7.2 2.9 3.6 -0.7 -0.1 389 0.8 145 -0.9 645
    Ja Morant MEM 3B 3B $22.8 4.4 0.2 1.5 -1.3 1.9 78 2.1 40 -0.2 480
    Jamal Murray DEN 3B 3A $33.8 7 3.1 2.4 0.7 3.4 25 2.6 25 0.9 121
    Karl-Anthony Towns MIN 3B 3A $36.2 8.1 4.0 4.6 -0.6 3.0 38 3.8 10 -0.8 629
    Mike Conley UTA 3B 4B $24.5 8.8 5.6 3.2 2.4 3.2 32 1.7 53 1.5 53
    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander OKC 3B 4A $25.5 4.7 2.9 3.3 -0.4 -0.6 493 0.5 190 -1.1 659
    Ben Simmons PHI 3C 3A $33.2 7.9 3.2 0.3 2.9 0.9 170 -0.1 359 0.9 111
    Draymond Green GSW 3C 3A $21.7 7.5 2.5 -0.4 2.9 3.4 27 1.5 73 2.0 27
    Jaylen Brown BOS 3C 3B $27.3 6.8 2.0 2.0 0.0 0.3 249 0.2 241 0.0 346
    Pascal Siakam TOR 3C 3B $33.4 5.7 1.1 1.2 -0.1 4.7 12 2.3 34 2.5 14
    Russell Westbrook LAL 3C 3B $27.2 7.2 1.4 1.0 0.5 1.4 120 -0.1 395 1.5 50
    Zach LaVine CHI 3C 4B $26.7 9 3.5 4.1 -0.6 0.3 241 2.0 43 -1.7 720
    Brandon Ingram NOP 4A 4A $29.6 5.5 0.9 2.4 -1.5 -0.1 368 1.0 117 -1.1 665
    CJ McCollum POR 4A 4A $27.6 6.7 3.1 4.1 -1.1 2.9 39 3.1 19 -0.2 446
    Clint Capela ATL 4A 5A $26.4 8.7 3.7 1.5 2.2 3.8 21 0.3 221 3.5 3
    De'Aaron Fox SAC 4A 4A $30.5 5.8 1.1 2.3 -1.2 0.2 267 1.7 50 -1.6 713
    DeMar DeRozan CHI 4A 4A $15.3 5.1 0.7 2.9 -2.3 -0.2 417 1.5 69 -1.7 719
    Domantas Sabonis IND 4A 4A $26.2 7.3 1.8 0.8 1.0 1.7 87 0.5 187 1.2 74
    Fred VanVleet TOR 4A 3B $31.3 9 3.9 2.1 1.8 2.4 48 1.5 67 0.9 115
    Gordon Hayward CHA 4A 4A $17.4 4.3 1.2 0.9 0.4 4.2 16 2.3 31 1.9 30
    Jerami Grant DET 4A 5A $12.0 4.3 0.5 0.5 0.0 -0.1 365 0.1 300 -0.1 434
    Joe Harris BKN 4A 4B $14.8 7.3 2.0 2.1 -0.1 2.6 43 2.6 24 0.0 355
    Joe Ingles UTA 4A 4A $18.5 7.9 3.2 2.4 0.8 3.8 22 1.7 54 2.1 24
    Julius Randle NYK 4A NR $27.2 11.1 3.1 1.5 1.6 1.4 119 0.1 303 1.3 63
    Kemba Walker NYK 4A 3A $26.9 5.3 2.7 2.6 0.1 3.0 35 3.4 15 -0.4 555
    Kyle Lowry MIA 4A 3A $25.2 5.2 1.8 2.3 -0.5 1.9 73 1.4 79 0.6 167
    LaMelo Ball CHA 4A NR $23.3 2.6 -0.4 0.4 -0.8 -0.6 503 0.4 212 -1.0 655
    Malcolm Brogdon IND 4A 4A $21.8 6 1.6 2.0 -0.4 2.7 42 1.9 46 0.8 129
    Myles Turner IND 4A 4B $17.4 4.3 1.4 -0.6 2.0 1.1 150 -1.2 674 2.3 18
    Nikola Vucevic CHI 4A 4A $17.8 7.6 1.7 2.2 -0.5 0.9 162 0.1 295 0.9 124
    Robert Covington POR 4A 4A $23.1 4.8 0.1 -0.3 0.4 1.9 75 0.3 228 1.6 45
    Seth Curry PHI 4A 5A $11.8 4.6 1.1 0.7 0.4 2.1 64 1.6 62 0.5 173
    Aaron Gordon DEN 4B 5A $19.6 3.2 0.3 0.2 0.2 2.5 47 1.5 72 1.0 94
    Al Horford BOS 4B 5A $6.9 2.1 1.0 1.1 0.0 2.3 51 0.2 237 2.1 23
    Bogdan Bogdanovic ATL 4B 4B $16.7 5 2.6 2.7 0.0 1.7 88 1.3 82 0.4 207
    Bojan Bogdanovic UTA 4B 4A $11.2 5.8 0.8 0.9 -0.1 1.4 118 1.6 63 -0.2 453
    Brook Lopez MIL 4B 4A $15.7 6.6 2.1 0.9 1.2 3.0 37 1.1 113 1.9 29
    Caris LeVert IND 4B 4B $11.8 3.5 0.4 0.6 -0.3 1.2 140 1.3 85 -0.1 424
    Christian Wood HOU 4B 5A $18.8 5.3 2.9 1.1 1.8 1.7 85 1.1 110 0.6 154
    Deandre Ayton PHX 4B 5A $24.7 7.6 2.3 1.2 1.1 0.2 270 -0.1 388 0.3 223
    De'Andre Hunter ATL 4B NR $8.5 2.1 1.6 -0.2 1.8 0.1 289 -0.8 595 0.9 114
    Derrick Rose NYK 4B 4A $10.1 3 0.4 0.0 0.4 1.5 103 1.6 60 -0.1 407
    Dillon Brooks MEM 4B NR $13.9 3.9 -0.2 -0.1 0.0 2.0 70 1.1 114 1.0 107
    Jae Crowder PHX 4B 5A $13.2 5.5 2.0 0.0 2.0 0.6 216 0.8 142 -0.2 487
    John Collins ATL 4B 4B $25.6 6.3 2.0 2.4 -0.4 3.0 34 1.9 45 1.1 81
    Jonas Valanciunas NOP 4B 5A $19.1 6.4 2.3 2.6 -0.3 2.2 59 0.7 159 1.5 51
    Jusuf Nurkic POR 4B 4A $5.6 3.1 2.1 -0.3 2.4 3.4 26 1.4 75 2.0 26
    Klay Thompson GSW 4B 3B $11.1 7.7 1.3 1.7 -0.4 0.3 244 0.2 240 0.1 339
    Kristaps Porzingis DAL 4B 3B $25.0 4.1 1.5 2.5 -1.0 1.6 95 2.0 44 -0.3 514
    Marcus Smart BOS 4B 4A $23.0 5.7 2.3 0.7 1.6 1.7 91 0.4 204 1.2 70
    Michael Porter Jr. DEN 4B NR $33.2 7.5 2.8 3.7 -0.9 1.7 89 3.5 14 -1.8 726
    Mikal Bridges PHX 4B 5A $26.6 8.2 2.2 1.9 0.3 1.8 82 0.8 139 1.0 104
    OG Anunoby TOR 4B 4B $25.8 5.2 2.3 0.8 1.6 0.7 198 -0.3 457 0.9 109
    Spencer Dinwiddie WAS 4B 4B $13.1 0 -3.1 -2.4 -0.7 0.1 284 0.7 171 -0.5 580
    Tobias Harris PHI 4B 4A $29.0 7 2.1 1.3 0.8 0.7 190 -0.2 410 0.9 120
    Alex Caruso CHI 5A NR $12.1 3.9 1.7 -1.9 3.6 4.5 14 1.1 105 3.4 4
    Andrew Wiggins GSW 5A 5A $17.2 5.2 0.2 -0.3 0.5 -0.1 361 0.5 194 -0.5 581
    Anthony Edwards MIN 5A NR $22.7 2.7 -1.3 0.0 -1.3 -1.4 640 0.9 133 -2.3 744
    Blake Griffin BKN 5A 5A $5.5 3.5 1.4 0.2 1.2 1.8 79 1.2 101 0.7 143
    Bruce Brown BKN 5A NR $14.8 2 -1.0 0.1 -1.1 0.6 214 0.3 218 0.2 253
    Buddy Hield SAC 5A 5A $15.5 4.5 -0.3 2.0 -2.3 1.1 145 1.7 56 -0.6 597
    Cameron Payne PHX 5A NR $3.9 3.9 2.3 1.7 0.6 1.4 112 1.2 92 0.2 254
    Collin Sexton CLE 5A NR $9.5 3.5 -0.6 1.0 -1.6 -3.6 751 0.2 250 -3.8 754
    D'Angelo Russell MIN 5A 4B $11.1 2.9 0.6 1.9 -1.3 -1.2 625 0.2 246 -1.5 704
    Danilo Gallinari ATL 5A 4A $15.3 2.5 0.1 1.2 -1.1 3.2 31 3.8 9 -0.6 589
    Danny Green PHI 5A 4B $19.3 6.4 1.9 0.7 1.2 4.5 15 3.1 20 1.4 57
    Davis Bertans WAS 5A 5A $17.6 2.9 -0.1 1.2 -1.3 2.7 41 3.5 13 -0.8 626
    Dejounte Murray SAS 5A 5A $23.4 6.7 1.6 0.3 1.3 1.2 132 1.0 120 0.2 255
    Dennis Schroeder FA 5A 5A $11.4 4.2 0.2 0.4 -0.2 2.0 69 0.7 154 1.3 66
    Derrick White SAS 5A 5A $23.5 3.8 2.3 1.7 0.6 3.3 28 1.1 111 2.2 20
    Devonte' Graham NOP 5A 5A $19.1 6.2 2.5 2.3 0.2 0.5 218 1.1 116 -0.5 584
    Duncan Robinson MIA 5A 5A $23.9 5.5 0.6 1.3 -0.7 3.6 23 2.2 38 1.4 58
    Evan Fournier NYK 5A 5A $13.4 3.8 1.5 1.8 -0.3 1.1 142 1.4 76 -0.3 491
    Gary Trent Jr. TOR 5A NR $5.4 2.2 -1.2 0.2 -1.4 -1.4 641 1.2 102 -2.6 750
    Harrison Barnes SAC 5A NR $14.7 5.7 1.0 1.1 -0.1 0.8 180 0.4 210 0.4 206
    Immanuel Quickley NYK 5A NR $16.2 3.7 1.4 1.4 0.0 2.6 46 1.7 51 0.8 125
    Ivica Zubac LAC 5A 5A $15.6 6.1 2.5 0.4 2.2 1.4 116 -1.1 641 2.5 13
    Jaren Jackson Jr. MEM 5A 4B $6.9 0.3 -1.6 -0.4 -1.2 -2.6 723 -2.4 747 -0.2 451
    Jarrett Allen CLE 5A 5A $16.0 5.2 1.1 0.5 0.5 1.2 131 0.4 215 0.9 118
    Jeff Green DEN 5A NR $3.5 2.5 -1.0 0.1 -1.1 -0.4 475 0.8 141 -1.2 684
    Jonathan Isaac ORL 5A 5A $4.6 3.3 1.9 -0.9 2.8 1.6 102 -0.2 440 1.8 32
    Jordan Clarkson UTA 5A NR $15.5 4.4 0.5 1.2 -0.7 0.1 302 2.3 32 -2.2 742
    Kelly Olynyk DET 5A NR $14.2 6.5 1.6 1.4 0.2 1.0 157 1.2 99 -0.2 479
    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope WAS 5A 5A $10.5 5.2 1.1 0.1 1.0 0.0 326 0.7 157 -0.7 619
    Kevin Huerter ATL 5A NR $14.6 3.4 -0.6 -0.3 -0.4 0.0 350 0.4 200 -0.5 568
    Kyle Anderson MEM 5A NR $21.2 6.9 2.4 0.4 2.0 -0.3 448 -1.6 704 1.3 65
    Lonzo Ball CHI 5A NR $22.5 6.1 2.1 1.5 0.7 0.2 274 -0.5 526 0.7 145
    Marcus Morris Sr. LAC 5A NR $7.7 2.2 -0.8 1.1 -1.9 -0.2 400 1.5 64 -1.7 721
    Nerlens Noel NYK 5A NR $5.6 3.5 0.3 -1.8 2.1 0.1 308 -1.0 634 1.1 84
    Nicolas Batum LAC 5A NR $10.6 6.3 2.0 0.1 1.9 1.9 76 1.2 97 0.7 137
    Norman Powell POR 5A NR $13.0 5 0.3 0.7 -0.4 -0.8 548 -0.1 378 -0.7 613
    P.J. Washington CHA 5A NR $10.5 3.7 -0.3 -0.7 0.4 1.4 122 0.0 310 1.3 64
    Patrick Beverley LAC 5A 4B $10.5 2.4 1.1 0.1 1.0 3.3 29 1.7 57 1.7 39
    Reggie Jackson LAC 5A NR $9.1 4.4 1.2 1.2 0.0 3.3 30 2.2 39 1.2 77
    Richaun Holmes SAC 5A NR $18.2 5.2 1.3 1.2 0.1 1.1 141 1.2 100 0.0 382
    Robert Williams III BOS 5A NR $4.3 3.8 2.7 1.4 1.3 -0.8 549 0.7 158 -1.5 708
    Steven Adams MEM 5A 5A $13.9 3.6 0.3 -0.1 0.3 3.0 36 2.5 28 0.5 172
    T.J. Warren IND 5A 5A $14.4 0 -3.6 -1.7 -1.8 -0.3 441 -0.3 467 0.0 354
    Terry Rozier CHA 5A NR $12.1 8.1 2.0 2.4 -0.4 -2.6 726 -1.4 687 -1.2 689
    Tim Hardaway Jr. DAL 5A 5A $12.8 5.4 1.0 1.4 -0.5 0.0 352 1.1 104 -1.2 674
    Tyrese Haliburton SAC 5A NR $16.9 2.8 -0.7 0.5 -1.2 -1.5 645 0.5 192 -1.9 734

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    Here is the Tiers list in full. Again, my apologies for not having made it clear earlier that within each sub tier, players are ordered alphabetically by first name rather than ranked. I regret any angst or confusion that may have caused.
    2021 NBA Player Tiers: The Top 125
    PLAYER TEAM TIER LAST YEAR BORD$ EPM WINS EPM OEPM ODPM RAPM RANK ORAPM ORAPM RANK DRAPM DRAPM RANK


    Giannis Antetokounmpo
    MIL 1A 1A $71.6 11.8 5.5 4.1 1.4 6.4 3 2.3 30 4.1 2


    Kevin Durant
    BKN 1A 1B $34.8 6.2 4.9 4.6 0.3 6.5 2 5.5 2 1.0 95


    LeBron James
    LAL 1A 1A $47.9 10.1 6.9 4.5 2.4 6.0 4 3.2 17 2.9 10


    James Harden
    BKN 1B 1A $50.3 7.8 4.5 4.9 -0.4 5.0 9 4.7 3 0.3 231


    Kawhi Leonard
    LAC 1B 1A $51.7 11.6 6.5 5.1 1.4 5.8 5 4.4 6 1.4 56


    Nikola Jokic
    DEN 1B 2A $51.8 18.4 7.9 6.9 1.1 3.1 33 2.9 22 0.2 256


    Stephen Curry
    GSW 1B 1B $34.5 14.6 6.9 7.5 -0.6 5.7 6 4.7 4 1.0 97


    Anthony Davis
    LAL 2A 2A $44.9 4.7 3.0 0.8 2.1 2.2 60 1.1 106 1.1 86


    Joel Embiid
    PHI 2A 2B $46.3 10.2 6.4 4.4 2.0 4.8 11 2.2 37 2.6 11


    Luka Doncic
    DAl 2A 2A $51.8 12.9 5.3 5.3 0.0 2.0 71 3.5 12 -1.6 711


    Damian Lillard
    POR 2B 2B $45.5 14.5 5.8 6.7 -0.9 4.6 13 5.8 1 -1.3 691


    Jimmy Butler
    MIA 2B 2B $40.3 11.1 6.4 3.4 3.0 4.2 17 2.2 35 1.9 28


    Paul George
    LAC 2B 2C $39.9 10.2 5.1 3.3 1.8 7.0 1 3.6 11 3.4 5


    Rudy Gobert
    UTA 2B 2C $41.9 15.6 7.5 1.2 6.2 5.3 8 1.1 103 4.1 1


    Bam Adebayo
    MIA 2C 3A $30.3 8.6 2.9 1.2 1.7 2.6 45 0.9 130 1.7 40


    Chris Paul
    PHX 2C 2C $36.2 10.1 3.7 3.1 0.6 5.4 7 3.2 18 2.3 19


    Jayson Tatum
    BOS 2C 2C $50.7 8.9 2.7 2.9 -0.2 5.0 10 3.2 16 1.8 33


    Khris Middleton
    MIL 2C 3A $30.8 6.9 1.5 1.7 -0.2 2.3 54 1.8 49 0.6 164


    Kyrie Irving
    BKN 2C 3A $35.8 9.5 4.4 4.6 -0.2 2.1 66 2.5 26 -0.4 558


    Devin Booker
    PHX 3A 3A $35.0 6.3 1.1 2.2 -1.1 2.4 50 4.6 5 -2.2 743


    Jrue Holiday
    MIL 3A 3A $34.7 9.4 4.2 2.5 1.7 3.9 19 3.0 21 0.9 123


    Trae Young
    ATL 3A 3B $39.3 9.1 3.3 4.7 -1.4 0.0 344 3.8 8 -3.8 755


    Zion Williamson
    NOP 3A 3B $37.5 10.2 4.4 3.8 0.6 1.9 77 2.4 29 -0.6 586


    Bradley Beal
    WAS 3B 3A $33.8 8.6 2.9 4.2 -1.3 1.5 106 4.3 7 -2.8 751


    Donovan Mitchell
    UTA 3B 3B $34.8 7.2 2.9 3.6 -0.7 -0.1 389 0.8 145 -0.9 645


    Ja Morant
    MEM 3B 3B $22.8 4.4 0.2 1.5 -1.3 1.9 78 2.1 40 -0.2 480


    Jamal Murray
    DEN 3B 3A $33.8 7 3.1 2.4 0.7 3.4 25 2.6 25 0.9 121


    Karl-Anthony Towns
    MIN 3B 3A $36.2 8.1 4.0 4.6 -0.6 3.0 38 3.8 10 -0.8 629


    Mike Conley
    UTA 3B 4B $24.5 8.8 5.6 3.2 2.4 3.2 32 1.7 53 1.5 53


    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
    OKC 3B 4A $25.5 4.7 2.9 3.3 -0.4 -0.6 493 0.5 190 -1.1 659


    Ben Simmons
    PHI 3C 3A $33.2 7.9 3.2 0.3 2.9 0.9 170 -0.1 359 0.9 111


    Draymond Green
    GSW 3C 3A $21.7 7.5 2.5 -0.4 2.9 3.4 27 1.5 73 2.0 27


    Jaylen Brown
    BOS 3C 3B $27.3 6.8 2.0 2.0 0.0 0.3 249 0.2 241 0.0 346


    Pascal Siakam
    TOR 3C 3B $33.4 5.7 1.1 1.2 -0.1 4.7 12 2.3 34 2.5 14


    Russell Westbrook
    LAL 3C 3B $27.2 7.2 1.4 1.0 0.5 1.4 120 -0.1 395 1.5 50


    Zach LaVine
    CHI 3C 4B $26.7 9 3.5 4.1 -0.6 0.3 241 2.0 43 -1.7 720


    Brandon Ingram
    NOP 4A 4A $29.6 5.5 0.9 2.4 -1.5 -0.1 368 1.0 117 -1.1 665


    CJ McCollum
    POR 4A 4A $27.6 6.7 3.1 4.1 -1.1 2.9 39 3.1 19 -0.2 446


    Clint Capela
    ATL 4A 5A $26.4 8.7 3.7 1.5 2.2 3.8 21 0.3 221 3.5 3


    De'Aaron Fox
    SAC 4A 4A $30.5 5.8 1.1 2.3 -1.2 0.2 267 1.7 50 -1.6 713


    DeMar DeRozan
    CHI 4A 4A $15.3 5.1 0.7 2.9 -2.3 -0.2 417 1.5 69 -1.7 719


    Domantas Sabonis
    IND 4A 4A $26.2 7.3 1.8 0.8 1.0 1.7 87 0.5 187 1.2 74


    Fred VanVleet
    TOR 4A 3B $31.3 9 3.9 2.1 1.8 2.4 48 1.5 67 0.9 115


    Gordon Hayward
    CHA 4A 4A $17.4 4.3 1.2 0.9 0.4 4.2 16 2.3 31 1.9 30


    Jerami Grant
    DET 4A 5A $12.0 4.3 0.5 0.5 0.0 -0.1 365 0.1 300 -0.1 434


    Joe Harris
    BKN 4A 4B $14.8 7.3 2.0 2.1 -0.1 2.6 43 2.6 24 0.0 355


    Joe Ingles
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    Seth Curry
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    Aaron Gordon
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    Brook Lopez
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    Caris LeVert
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    Christian Wood
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    Deandre Ayton
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    De'Andre Hunter
    ATL 4B NR $8.5 2.1 1.6 -0.2 1.8 0.1 289 -0.8 595 0.9 114


    Derrick Rose
    NYK 4B 4A $10.1 3 0.4 0.0 0.4 1.5 103 1.6 60 -0.1 407


    Dillon Brooks
    MEM 4B NR $13.9 3.9 -0.2 -0.1 0.0 2.0 70 1.1 114 1.0 107


    Jae Crowder
    PHX 4B 5A $13.2 5.5 2.0 0.0 2.0 0.6 216 0.8 142 -0.2 487


    John Collins
    ATL 4B 4B $25.6 6.3 2.0 2.4 -0.4 3.0 34 1.9 45 1.1 81


    Jonas Valanciunas
    NOP 4B 5A $19.1 6.4 2.3 2.6 -0.3 2.2 59 0.7 159 1.5 51


    Jusuf Nurkic
    POR 4B 4A $5.6 3.1 2.1 -0.3 2.4 3.4 26 1.4 75 2.0 26


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    GSW 4B 3B $11.1 7.7 1.3 1.7 -0.4 0.3 244 0.2 240 0.1 339


    Kristaps Porzingis
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    Marcus Smart
    BOS 4B 4A $23.0 5.7 2.3 0.7 1.6 1.7 91 0.4 204 1.2 70


    Michael Porter Jr.
    DEN 4B NR $33.2 7.5 2.8 3.7 -0.9 1.7 89 3.5 14 -1.8 726


    Mikal Bridges
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    OG Anunoby
    TOR 4B 4B $25.8 5.2 2.3 0.8 1.6 0.7 198 -0.3 457 0.9 109


    Spencer Dinwiddie
    WAS 4B 4B $13.1 -3.1 -2.4 -0.7 0.1 284 0.7 171 -0.5 580


    Tobias Harris
    PHI 4B 4A $29.0 7 2.1 1.3 0.8 0.7 190 -0.2 410 0.9 120


    Alex Caruso
    CHI 5A NR $12.1 3.9 1.7 -1.9 3.6 4.5 14 1.1 105 3.4 4


    Andrew Wiggins
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    Anthony Edwards
    MIN 5A NR $22.7 2.7 -1.3 0.0 -1.3 -1.4 640 0.9 133 -2.3 744


    Blake Griffin
    BKN 5A 5A $5.5 3.5 1.4 0.2 1.2 1.8 79 1.2 101 0.7 143


    Bruce Brown
    BKN 5A NR $14.8 2 -1.0 0.1 -1.1 0.6 214 0.3 218 0.2 253


    Buddy Hield
    SAC 5A 5A $15.5 4.5 -0.3 2.0 -2.3 1.1 145 1.7 56 -0.6 597


    Cameron Payne
    PHX 5A NR $3.9 3.9 2.3 1.7 0.6 1.4 112 1.2 92 0.2 254


    Collin Sexton
    CLE 5A NR $9.5 3.5 -0.6 1.0 -1.6 -3.6 751 0.2 250 -3.8 754


    D'Angelo Russell
    MIN 5A 4B $11.1 2.9 0.6 1.9 -1.3 -1.2 625 0.2 246 -1.5 704


    Danilo Gallinari
    ATL 5A 4A $15.3 2.5 0.1 1.2 -1.1 3.2 31 3.8 9 -0.6 589


    Danny Green
    PHI 5A 4B $19.3 6.4 1.9 0.7 1.2 4.5 15 3.1 20 1.4 57


    Davis Bertans
    WAS 5A 5A $17.6 2.9 -0.1 1.2 -1.3 2.7 41 3.5 13 -0.8 626


    Dejounte Murray
    SAS 5A 5A $23.4 6.7 1.6 0.3 1.3 1.2 132 1.0 120 0.2 255


    Dennis Schroeder
    FA 5A 5A $11.4 4.2 0.2 0.4 -0.2 2.0 69 0.7 154 1.3 66


    Derrick White
    SAS 5A 5A $23.5 3.8 2.3 1.7 0.6 3.3 28 1.1 111 2.2 20


    Devonte' Graham
    NOP 5A 5A $19.1 6.2 2.5 2.3 0.2 0.5 218 1.1 116 -0.5 584


    Duncan Robinson
    MIA 5A 5A $23.9 5.5 0.6 1.3 -0.7 3.6 23 2.2 38 1.4 58


    Evan Fournier
    NYK 5A 5A $13.4 3.8 1.5 1.8 -0.3 1.1 142 1.4 76 -0.3 491


    Gary Trent Jr.
    TOR 5A NR $5.4 2.2 -1.2 0.2 -1.4 -1.4 641 1.2 102 -2.6 750


    Harrison Barnes
    SAC 5A NR $14.7 5.7 1.0 1.1 -0.1 0.8 180 0.4 210 0.4 206


    Immanuel Quickley
    NYK 5A NR $16.2 3.7 1.4 1.4 0.0 2.6 46 1.7 51 0.8 125


    Ivica Zubac
    LAC 5A 5A $15.6 6.1 2.5 0.4 2.2 1.4 116 -1.1 641 2.5 13


    Jaren Jackson Jr.
    MEM 5A 4B $6.9 0.3 -1.6 -0.4 -1.2 -2.6 723 -2.4 747 -0.2 451


    Jarrett Allen
    CLE 5A 5A $16.0 5.2 1.1 0.5 0.5 1.2 131 0.4 215 0.9 118


    Jeff Green
    DEN 5A NR $3.5 2.5 -1.0 0.1 -1.1 -0.4 475 0.8 141 -1.2 684


    Jonathan Isaac
    ORL 5A 5A $4.6 3.3 1.9 -0.9 2.8 1.6 102 -0.2 440 1.8 32


    Jordan Clarkson
    UTA 5A NR $15.5 4.4 0.5 1.2 -0.7 0.1 302 2.3 32 -2.2 742


    Kelly Olynyk
    DET 5A NR $14.2 6.5 1.6 1.4 0.2 1.0 157 1.2 99 -0.2 479


    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    WAS 5A 5A $10.5 5.2 1.1 0.1 1.0 0.0 326 0.7 157 -0.7 619


    Kevin Huerter
    ATL 5A NR $14.6 3.4 -0.6 -0.3 -0.4 0.0 350 0.4 200 -0.5 568


    Kyle Anderson
    MEM 5A NR $21.2 6.9 2.4 0.4 2.0 -0.3 448 -1.6 704 1.3 65


    Lonzo Ball
    CHI 5A NR $22.5 6.1 2.1 1.5 0.7 0.2 274 -0.5 526 0.7 145


    Marcus Morris Sr.
    LAC 5A NR $7.7 2.2 -0.8 1.1 -1.9 -0.2 400 1.5 64 -1.7 721


    Nerlens Noel
    NYK 5A NR $5.6 3.5 0.3 -1.8 2.1 0.1 308 -1.0 634 1.1 84


    Nicolas Batum
    LAC 5A NR $10.6 6.3 2.0 0.1 1.9 1.9 76 1.2 97 0.7 137


    Norman Powell
    POR 5A NR $13.0 5 0.3 0.7 -0.4 -0.8 548 -0.1 378 -0.7 613


    P.J. Washington
    CHA 5A NR $10.5 3.7 -0.3 -0.7 0.4 1.4 122 0.0 310 1.3 64


    Patrick Beverley
    LAC 5A 4B $10.5 2.4 1.1 0.1 1.0 3.3 29 1.7 57 1.7 39


    Reggie Jackson
    LAC 5A NR $9.1 4.4 1.2 1.2 0.0 3.3 30 2.2 39 1.2 77


    Richaun Holmes
    SAC 5A NR $18.2 5.2 1.3 1.2 0.1 1.1 141 1.2 100 0.0 382


    Robert Williams III
    BOS 5A NR $4.3 3.8 2.7 1.4 1.3 -0.8 549 0.7 158 -1.5 708


    Steven Adams
    MEM 5A 5A $13.9 3.6 0.3 -0.1 0.3 3.0 36 2.5 28 0.5 172


    T.J. Warren
    IND 5A 5A $14.4 -3.6 -1.7 -1.8 -0.3 441 -0.3 467 0.0 354


    Terry Rozier
    CHA 5A NR $12.1 8.1 2.0 2.4 -0.4 -2.6 726 -1.4 687 -1.2 689


    Tim Hardaway Jr.
    DAL 5A 5A $12.8 5.4 1.0 1.4 -0.5 0.0 352 1.1 104 -1.2 674


    Tyrese Haliburton
    SAC 5A NR $16.9 2.8 -0.7 0.5 -1.2 -1.5 645 0.5 192 -1.9 734

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    Hawks have 4 guys that I saw on that top 125, Trae, Collins, Hunter and Huerter. RJ just as good and valuable as Collins, Hunter and Huerter to me. But maybe you should be a Hawks fan since you live down there Dark.

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    Tiger,
    Thank you for all of the hard work that put into those chart. I truly mean that!!

    Now if you can get that to all of the sportswriters that left him off the ROY, All- Rookie Teams and Top 125 it wouldn't make any different. We(Sportswriters and myself) are looking at TALENT not "Maturity, Intelligence and Hard Work". Those last 3 things aren't substitutes for Athleticism and Explosiveness. RJ doesn't process those qualities not THEN or NOW. I'm sorry to break the news to you but unless league give him an All Star selection he ain't making it when it comes to truly earning a spot. Again, those writers see exactly what I been telling you and other. RJ hasn't EARNED anything but given positions when he should have been on the far end of the bench. Let close with this about an All-Star selection it ain't worth 'Jack' now. Most of the star are slipping it to heal and rest up.

    One more thing that is given to certain players. That is LEADERSHIP. He doesn't process that quality in the least. The team doesn't rally around him. They don't look at him when they come off the court when time out is called and the game is tight and they need a basket. The only player on the Knicks that process that quality is D. Rose, period.

    Now for the Hawks fan statement:
    Tiger, I probably been a Knicks fan longer than you been living. That doesn't give me anything special when it comes to other Knicks fan. It simple mean I know struggles that you don't know. I know talent because I was taught to see it from people who knew talent and pass it to me. I see very little that good from a team that I Love very much. All I see is a bunch of NO BB Knowledge people who run the Knicks and are driving them into the ground(I know you and other don't see that... and I understand that). You don't have to push me to become a Hawks fan the F.O. is doing a damn good job of that. I see nothing good for the Knicks for next 5 years then we start this same process of again. Tell me one knowledgeable BB person you know in the organization since JAX & C. Gaines left? Just one!! Do you think I want to see Stupidity and Incompetent from the F.O.? I'm about winning a championship since the last one and nothing else matter to me. Not going to playoff, not a player being an All Star or Most Improved. I started noticing the Hawks and how they were assembling talent. They have someone that knows BB. I'm not a big Trae fan or fan at all. See it Collins, Hunter, Huerter (and I thought they should have kept Spellman but they didn't) that make peak my interest. Collins is that team MVP in my opinion not Trae. If you were says become a Hawks fan to any other Knicks Fan beside me it would probably be very easy to do. I'm a true fan unfortunately... See in those struggles that I mention those are times when I truly need to be fan. You might not understand that but I know what it is to see a Knicks Championship. I don't see one in the near or distance future.



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    RJ Barrett was 47th in NBA in 3-point shooting %, right behind CJ McCullom and ahead of Malik Monk. He shot 40.1%.

    They said he’d never be able to shoot the 3, and he improved in year 2 and made himself a top 50 3-point shooter.

    I look forward to seeing where his game grows this year… I take RJ over Caruso and Bowen, easily.

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    It obvious all the things you guys say are true about 3pt shooting, etc. What is more obvious all of what you say doesn't seem to matter in those Sportswriters opinions or evaluations of RJ. I wonder why because certainly they see what all of you see. So can anybody put there finger on it?? WHY?? What is it that makes Sportswriters have such a low opinion of him and his BB skills?

    Do you think it time for you to re-evaluate RJ talent? Maybe ask some very HARD questions of yourself and certainly about RJ?

    Not getting a ROY vote is someone shaking you. Not making any of the 3 All-Rookie team you start steering around. Not being name to the Top 125 NBA Players should have you eyes wide open. Something is Wrong!!

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    RJ was top ranked HS baller in 2 classes, he led his college team to Regionals in NCAA Tourney, he started and played every game on a team that finished 4th in EC in just his second year, on a roster devoid of talent.

    Who cares what a national writer thinks? It was obvious he was all rookie second or third team. He was hurt bc he payed on a baaaaaad team.

    Who had a better season last year, Zion or RJ? DeAndre Hunter or RJ? How about Shamet or Bagley?

    RJ will probably be dealt to get Dame, so who really cares. I don’t love RJ the player, but I recognize the fact that of all our recent lottery picks…. RJ Barrett the biggest hit. KP? Doesn’t have the will to be great. Frank and Knox don’t have the talent.

    What RJ excels at can’t be quantified by an ANALytcis guru.

    Again, a 26 year old RJ is gonna be a force.

    Did is only 21! People act Ike he’s a finished project. He already made y’all look silly after freshman year, bc critics claimed
    He’d never be able to shoot FT or 3s.

    So, if the question is… who was taken after RJ that we missed out on? I don’t see a player we missed on, and for the NYK who have a list longer than Santa of draft misses…. That’s saying something.

    Did we pass on Donovan Mitchell or Kevin Porter Jr?
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    Who Cares?? All of you care if the situation was reversed. F.O. and yourself would be making a point of showing that he deserves to be starting and drafted as high as he did. No it obvious he isn't All-Rookie nothing and you can't prove it. Memphis(Ja) and Pelican(Zion) didn't make the playoff in 2019 - 2020 season... So what does that have to with anything. It base on talent not team success.

    Who had a better season? Ok, for the sake of time let say RJ did. Now who earned there starting position(s)? Earn not given! Let see if you can be honest with me as I was with you!

    RJ should have never been drafted by the Knicks and should have been trade for one of the top 3 draft position last year. We would be sitting here talking about Wiseman or Edwards and the future. Yes, KP are serious!! No matter what happen he was the light on the hill not the light in the valley(RJ). Just my opinion!! As for Knox and Frank and talent they both have more talent than RJ. Play them the same way they played RJ. Give him a position and then letting him play nearly 40 minutes a game when he should have been sitting on the bench next the water boy. Now if you going to compare Frank and Knox give them the same privilege's that would be fair. But you can't do that because the F.O. had no investment in neither Knox nor Frank so they did everything to hinder their success.

    What does RJ excel in if it can't be quantified?

    How is a 26 RJ going to be a force? He playing 40 minutes a game now and he doesn't effect the game in the least. Look at my Avatar is going to be something like him? That a force!!

    Being 21 is a asset or excuse? Sound like an excuse. He is finish there no room to grow it over. Played him nearly 40 minutes a game to get those stat. It only 8 minutes left!! Maybe you forgot about TEAM!! Yes, TEAM!! He has missed ROY, ALL-ROOKIE TEAMS(3) AND TOP 125 PLAYERS and we look silly. We don't have to make excuses for him not making them... YOU DO!!

    Miss out, let try all the ones drafted after him. Let try trading him for any of the top 3 spot in the last year draft(not this year). After Edwards dog him you should be ashamed that he walks out on the floor. And what did he do after Edward dog him... Nothing.... So much for your force.

    Pass on Mitchell or Porter Jr? Well it two different answer. Mitchell - The person that won the most championship said NO. Until you find someone with better credentials I will take his word. Porter Jr. - Yes, that is Perry and Mills mistake because C. Gaines told them to trade back with Clippers for their 12 and 13 picks. We could have had both Knox and Porter Jr. but Perry didn't do what suggest because it came from Gaines.

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    I don’t believe you comprehend how math works. The more playing time for RJ, means more shots, and more shots is usually a bad thing for shooting %, unless you make them.

    So, please explain how a 20 year old bust somehow defied the critics and shot 40.1% from downtown? How? He’s only 21 and he somehow transformed his 3-ball! That’s how.

    Played 40 minutes a night and still shot 40% from downtown.

    Top 50 in NBA…. That’s how good he was shooting it from Deep, and this without a PG, SG, C who could score.

    Please show me report MIN would’ve dealt pick for RJ. I would swap the 2, if offered, but unless you have a partner… you left with your hand and your imagination.
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    The names on that list are delusional and so is whoever wrote it

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    When does Quantitative analysis you using math and stat's model to measure and research a behavior. It doesn't mention or have anything to with TALENT.

    So when you say I don't comprehend Math I beg to differ. Math has nothing to do with it. BTW, Math was one of my better subject.

    What you keep going around in circle about is you can't answer the question of why RJ is being left out of any conversation or awards that are being voted on? You keep bring up 3's etc and I have said ok if that your argument. Again why is he being left off of these awards? Simple question.... Do you have an answer or just maybe a thought?

    When you are bad at something and you keep doing it over and over again. You at some point get the hang of it and become decent at it. That is what RJ was he was bad and F.O. said play him no matter what cost. He became decent.

    Two things I mention the word 'Team' twice but no respond to that as to how he make the Knicks better. The other is the notion that by playing 40 minutes a game it mean he take more shots. Again I beg to differ with you. All it mean is that you on the floor for a most of the game. Does it mean you should be taking more shots, NO!! You may not have the hot hand. But in his case he is definitely not coming off the bench cold. The flow of the game dictate shots not minutes. Again, he just has the opportunity that is not afforded to other players at the expense of the team.

    Why is it you always got to blame his lack of success on a scoring PG, SG or C. Maybe you forgot but he was the PG, Remember(what a disaster). Maybe you also forgot that he is listed as the current SG, or have you notice or have you switch his position again? So he is the SG so it shouldn't be a problem. As for Center maybe if you look at the F.O. that could have sign a scoring center in Cousins but didn't. That would have been the perfect match with D. Rose. But of course when you have none BB personal running you F.O. these are the mistakes you make. But that is what we are taking about is a MISTAKE, huh!!

    There are no report that I know of about Minny and last year draft. How do you get a Transformative player if you don't put yourself in a position to draft one. Minny has KAT and others to form a contender for a championship. The Knicks have nothing close to KAT or any of their other players. So how do you get a player of talent of Wiseman and Edwards? Of course you enquire as to the availability of that draft pick. In our case you offer whatever they ask for in picks and definitely players. Now lets be clear, sound familiar, Minny probably didn't want a damn thing we had as far as players so the draft picks would've had to make the deal. Imagination and a BB person is what lacking in the Knicks organization. See we have no future of a championship because we have no one to take us there. Maybe you should think of 'TEAM' more than your praise of RJ. Remember BB is a TEAM sport not individual. I think you have forgotten or don't comprehend that fact.
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    RJ Barrett gets NO praise from me, his b.ball IQ is very LOW from being an individual-player, he's not a complimentary same-page player with any of his teammates on offense/defense.
    Plus RJ Barrett has showed us Knicks fans repeatedly he have to many FLAWS in his inconsistent-performance to be considered a team player, or a starter for the Knicks.
    My evaluation come from RJ Barrett being the Knicks only rookie to receive 30 plus minute of playing-time in every game for two consecutive season.
    RJ Barrett has never showed one performance in the Summer League games or Pre-season games or regular season games that earned him 30 minute of playing-time, or earned him a starter-position.
    Being Knicks GM Perry's 3rd pick in the 2019 draft earned RJ Barrett those luxuries, under three head-coaches in 2 seasons. RJ Barrett were a FLOP in the playoffs!
    The Knicks two 2nd round draft picks this offseason (McBride & Grimes) showed more grit and hustle to win on both sides of the court in the SL games than RJ Barrett showed in two seasons.

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    Having a back-court trio lineup of Kemba, Evans, and Bullock's all-round hustle to make their performance more creative throughout the season.
    Or .....
    Having a backcourt trio of Kemba, Barrett, and Evans representing a 3 guard offensive lineup for 30 min per game .... That trio will need a very good offense/defense coach on their back throughout the regular season to stay a .500 team.

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    What I thought was interesting was in several articles and online. They were saying the new Knicks backcourt is Walker and Evan. So what happened to last year SG? RJ!!
    So now he must be the SF, huh?? If so then this is third position in 3 years. Don’t understand if he is that good at SG how is Evan getting his job or position?
    Can any of you Pro-RJ fan please explain 3 different positions in 3 years?
    Also he was great according to all of you last year at SG so how is he losing his position?

    That second question is very dangerous. Give you hint…. Trier and Dotson!! Good Luck

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