RJ not on the top 125 NBA Players:

Dark Raider · Aug 15, 2021

Again Sportswriters have left the Knicks so-called prize #3 draft pick off the top 125 NBA player, Why?? After receiving NO votes for the ROY. After not being named to any of the 3 All-Rookie teams(I know). And now this stub. Are the Sportswriters trying to tell the Knicks F.O. something? I think so!! That they see thru all of the B.S. and Hype that has been spread by F.O. From Draft night mistake of not trading back the TO preseason practices(suppose to be competition) TO the first game of that year which he started at PG and minutes into the game which to SG, etc, etc, etc.

So are there still some Sportswriters that are knowledgeable BB people out that know talent when they see it. Not a question. F.O. has done a nice job of spin to fans that don't know talent and take the word and judgement of there team PR. Even in this article the writer is trying to spin a good face. How do you get all of the Sportswriters to omit RJ from the ROY voting, From the 3 All-Rookie team and Now this. There needs to be a moment of silent to just take this in because it doesn't seem like this is a conspiracy. This isn't a good sign.

This F.O. is dead in the water for the next 5 years which is unfortunate. Maybe Dolan will see what Perry and L. Rose aren't the answers to our problems. No Real BB people!!

NY Knicks: Responding to RJ Barrett being left off The Athletic's top 125 players (dailyknicks.com)

tiger0330 · Aug 16, 2021

RJ made great strides last year solidifying my hope that he becomes a future AS. Something he has that the sports writers never take into account in these ranking systems and a traits Mike Breen always mentions when talking about RJ is his maturity, intelligence and hard work, these traits are going to fulfill his playing potential.

Here is that full list of The Athletics top 125, to me RJ is as good as some of those on that list. IQ better than RJ currently? I doubt it.

Here is the Tiers list in full. Again, my apologies for not having made it clear earlier that within each sub tier, players are ordered alphabetically by first name rather than ranked. I regret any angst or confusion that may have caused.
2021 NBA Player Tiers: The Top 125

PLAYER	TEAM	TIER	LAST YEAR	BORD$	EPM WINS	EPM	OEPM	ODPM	RAPM	RANK	ORAPM	ORAPM RANK	DRAPM	DRAPM RANK
Giannis Antetokounmpo	MIL	1A	1A	$71.6	11.8	5.5	4.1	1.4	6.4	3	2.3	30	4.1	2
Kevin Durant	BKN	1A	1B	$34.8	6.2	4.9	4.6	0.3	6.5	2	5.5	2	1.0	95
LeBron James	LAL	1A	1A	$47.9	10.1	6.9	4.5	2.4	6.0	4	3.2	17	2.9	10
James Harden	BKN	1B	1A	$50.3	7.8	4.5	4.9	-0.4	5.0	9	4.7	3	0.3	231
Kawhi Leonard	LAC	1B	1A	$51.7	11.6	6.5	5.1	1.4	5.8	5	4.4	6	1.4	56
Nikola Jokic	DEN	1B	2A	$51.8	18.4	7.9	6.9	1.1	3.1	33	2.9	22	0.2	256
Stephen Curry	GSW	1B	1B	$34.5	14.6	6.9	7.5	-0.6	5.7	6	4.7	4	1.0	97
Anthony Davis	LAL	2A	2A	$44.9	4.7	3.0	0.8	2.1	2.2	60	1.1	106	1.1	86
Joel Embiid	PHI	2A	2B	$46.3	10.2	6.4	4.4	2.0	4.8	11	2.2	37	2.6	11
Luka Doncic	DAl	2A	2A	$51.8	12.9	5.3	5.3	0.0	2.0	71	3.5	12	-1.6	711
Damian Lillard	POR	2B	2B	$45.5	14.5	5.8	6.7	-0.9	4.6	13	5.8	1	-1.3	691
Jimmy Butler	MIA	2B	2B	$40.3	11.1	6.4	3.4	3.0	4.2	17	2.2	35	1.9	28
Paul George	LAC	2B	2C	$39.9	10.2	5.1	3.3	1.8	7.0	1	3.6	11	3.4	5
Rudy Gobert	UTA	2B	2C	$41.9	15.6	7.5	1.2	6.2	5.3	8	1.1	103	4.1	1
Bam Adebayo	MIA	2C	3A	$30.3	8.6	2.9	1.2	1.7	2.6	45	0.9	130	1.7	40
Chris Paul	PHX	2C	2C	$36.2	10.1	3.7	3.1	0.6	5.4	7	3.2	18	2.3	19
Jayson Tatum	BOS	2C	2C	$50.7	8.9	2.7	2.9	-0.2	5.0	10	3.2	16	1.8	33
Khris Middleton	MIL	2C	3A	$30.8	6.9	1.5	1.7	-0.2	2.3	54	1.8	49	0.6	164
Kyrie Irving	BKN	2C	3A	$35.8	9.5	4.4	4.6	-0.2	2.1	66	2.5	26	-0.4	558
Devin Booker	PHX	3A	3A	$35.0	6.3	1.1	2.2	-1.1	2.4	50	4.6	5	-2.2	743
Jrue Holiday	MIL	3A	3A	$34.7	9.4	4.2	2.5	1.7	3.9	19	3.0	21	0.9	123
Trae Young	ATL	3A	3B	$39.3	9.1	3.3	4.7	-1.4	0.0	344	3.8	8	-3.8	755
Zion Williamson	NOP	3A	3B	$37.5	10.2	4.4	3.8	0.6	1.9	77	2.4	29	-0.6	586
Bradley Beal	WAS	3B	3A	$33.8	8.6	2.9	4.2	-1.3	1.5	106	4.3	7	-2.8	751
Donovan Mitchell	UTA	3B	3B	$34.8	7.2	2.9	3.6	-0.7	-0.1	389	0.8	145	-0.9	645
Ja Morant	MEM	3B	3B	$22.8	4.4	0.2	1.5	-1.3	1.9	78	2.1	40	-0.2	480
Jamal Murray	DEN	3B	3A	$33.8	7	3.1	2.4	0.7	3.4	25	2.6	25	0.9	121
Karl-Anthony Towns	MIN	3B	3A	$36.2	8.1	4.0	4.6	-0.6	3.0	38	3.8	10	-0.8	629
Mike Conley	UTA	3B	4B	$24.5	8.8	5.6	3.2	2.4	3.2	32	1.7	53	1.5	53
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander	OKC	3B	4A	$25.5	4.7	2.9	3.3	-0.4	-0.6	493	0.5	190	-1.1	659
Ben Simmons	PHI	3C	3A	$33.2	7.9	3.2	0.3	2.9	0.9	170	-0.1	359	0.9	111
Draymond Green	GSW	3C	3A	$21.7	7.5	2.5	-0.4	2.9	3.4	27	1.5	73	2.0	27
Jaylen Brown	BOS	3C	3B	$27.3	6.8	2.0	2.0	0.0	0.3	249	0.2	241	0.0	346
Pascal Siakam	TOR	3C	3B	$33.4	5.7	1.1	1.2	-0.1	4.7	12	2.3	34	2.5	14
Russell Westbrook	LAL	3C	3B	$27.2	7.2	1.4	1.0	0.5	1.4	120	-0.1	395	1.5	50
Zach LaVine	CHI	3C	4B	$26.7	9	3.5	4.1	-0.6	0.3	241	2.0	43	-1.7	720
Brandon Ingram	NOP	4A	4A	$29.6	5.5	0.9	2.4	-1.5	-0.1	368	1.0	117	-1.1	665
CJ McCollum	POR	4A	4A	$27.6	6.7	3.1	4.1	-1.1	2.9	39	3.1	19	-0.2	446
Clint Capela	ATL	4A	5A	$26.4	8.7	3.7	1.5	2.2	3.8	21	0.3	221	3.5	3
De'Aaron Fox	SAC	4A	4A	$30.5	5.8	1.1	2.3	-1.2	0.2	267	1.7	50	-1.6	713
DeMar DeRozan	CHI	4A	4A	$15.3	5.1	0.7	2.9	-2.3	-0.2	417	1.5	69	-1.7	719
Domantas Sabonis	IND	4A	4A	$26.2	7.3	1.8	0.8	1.0	1.7	87	0.5	187	1.2	74
Fred VanVleet	TOR	4A	3B	$31.3	9	3.9	2.1	1.8	2.4	48	1.5	67	0.9	115
Gordon Hayward	CHA	4A	4A	$17.4	4.3	1.2	0.9	0.4	4.2	16	2.3	31	1.9	30
Jerami Grant	DET	4A	5A	$12.0	4.3	0.5	0.5	0.0	-0.1	365	0.1	300	-0.1	434
Joe Harris	BKN	4A	4B	$14.8	7.3	2.0	2.1	-0.1	2.6	43	2.6	24	0.0	355
Joe Ingles	UTA	4A	4A	$18.5	7.9	3.2	2.4	0.8	3.8	22	1.7	54	2.1	24
Julius Randle	NYK	4A	NR	$27.2	11.1	3.1	1.5	1.6	1.4	119	0.1	303	1.3	63
Kemba Walker	NYK	4A	3A	$26.9	5.3	2.7	2.6	0.1	3.0	35	3.4	15	-0.4	555
Kyle Lowry	MIA	4A	3A	$25.2	5.2	1.8	2.3	-0.5	1.9	73	1.4	79	0.6	167
LaMelo Ball	CHA	4A	NR	$23.3	2.6	-0.4	0.4	-0.8	-0.6	503	0.4	212	-1.0	655
Malcolm Brogdon	IND	4A	4A	$21.8	6	1.6	2.0	-0.4	2.7	42	1.9	46	0.8	129
Myles Turner	IND	4A	4B	$17.4	4.3	1.4	-0.6	2.0	1.1	150	-1.2	674	2.3	18
Nikola Vucevic	CHI	4A	4A	$17.8	7.6	1.7	2.2	-0.5	0.9	162	0.1	295	0.9	124
Robert Covington	POR	4A	4A	$23.1	4.8	0.1	-0.3	0.4	1.9	75	0.3	228	1.6	45
Seth Curry	PHI	4A	5A	$11.8	4.6	1.1	0.7	0.4	2.1	64	1.6	62	0.5	173
Aaron Gordon	DEN	4B	5A	$19.6	3.2	0.3	0.2	0.2	2.5	47	1.5	72	1.0	94
Al Horford	BOS	4B	5A	$6.9	2.1	1.0	1.1	0.0	2.3	51	0.2	237	2.1	23
Bogdan Bogdanovic	ATL	4B	4B	$16.7	5	2.6	2.7	0.0	1.7	88	1.3	82	0.4	207
Bojan Bogdanovic	UTA	4B	4A	$11.2	5.8	0.8	0.9	-0.1	1.4	118	1.6	63	-0.2	453
Brook Lopez	MIL	4B	4A	$15.7	6.6	2.1	0.9	1.2	3.0	37	1.1	113	1.9	29
Caris LeVert	IND	4B	4B	$11.8	3.5	0.4	0.6	-0.3	1.2	140	1.3	85	-0.1	424
Christian Wood	HOU	4B	5A	$18.8	5.3	2.9	1.1	1.8	1.7	85	1.1	110	0.6	154
Deandre Ayton	PHX	4B	5A	$24.7	7.6	2.3	1.2	1.1	0.2	270	-0.1	388	0.3	223
De'Andre Hunter	ATL	4B	NR	$8.5	2.1	1.6	-0.2	1.8	0.1	289	-0.8	595	0.9	114
Derrick Rose	NYK	4B	4A	$10.1	3	0.4	0.0	0.4	1.5	103	1.6	60	-0.1	407
Dillon Brooks	MEM	4B	NR	$13.9	3.9	-0.2	-0.1	0.0	2.0	70	1.1	114	1.0	107
Jae Crowder	PHX	4B	5A	$13.2	5.5	2.0	0.0	2.0	0.6	216	0.8	142	-0.2	487
John Collins	ATL	4B	4B	$25.6	6.3	2.0	2.4	-0.4	3.0	34	1.9	45	1.1	81
Jonas Valanciunas	NOP	4B	5A	$19.1	6.4	2.3	2.6	-0.3	2.2	59	0.7	159	1.5	51
Jusuf Nurkic	POR	4B	4A	$5.6	3.1	2.1	-0.3	2.4	3.4	26	1.4	75	2.0	26
Klay Thompson	GSW	4B	3B	$11.1	7.7	1.3	1.7	-0.4	0.3	244	0.2	240	0.1	339
Kristaps Porzingis	DAL	4B	3B	$25.0	4.1	1.5	2.5	-1.0	1.6	95	2.0	44	-0.3	514
Marcus Smart	BOS	4B	4A	$23.0	5.7	2.3	0.7	1.6	1.7	91	0.4	204	1.2	70
Michael Porter Jr.	DEN	4B	NR	$33.2	7.5	2.8	3.7	-0.9	1.7	89	3.5	14	-1.8	726
Mikal Bridges	PHX	4B	5A	$26.6	8.2	2.2	1.9	0.3	1.8	82	0.8	139	1.0	104
OG Anunoby	TOR	4B	4B	$25.8	5.2	2.3	0.8	1.6	0.7	198	-0.3	457	0.9	109
Spencer Dinwiddie	WAS	4B	4B	$13.1	0	-3.1	-2.4	-0.7	0.1	284	0.7	171	-0.5	580
Tobias Harris	PHI	4B	4A	$29.0	7	2.1	1.3	0.8	0.7	190	-0.2	410	0.9	120
Alex Caruso	CHI	5A	NR	$12.1	3.9	1.7	-1.9	3.6	4.5	14	1.1	105	3.4	4
Andrew Wiggins	GSW	5A	5A	$17.2	5.2	0.2	-0.3	0.5	-0.1	361	0.5	194	-0.5	581
Anthony Edwards	MIN	5A	NR	$22.7	2.7	-1.3	0.0	-1.3	-1.4	640	0.9	133	-2.3	744
Blake Griffin	BKN	5A	5A	$5.5	3.5	1.4	0.2	1.2	1.8	79	1.2	101	0.7	143
Bruce Brown	BKN	5A	NR	$14.8	2	-1.0	0.1	-1.1	0.6	214	0.3	218	0.2	253
Buddy Hield	SAC	5A	5A	$15.5	4.5	-0.3	2.0	-2.3	1.1	145	1.7	56	-0.6	597
Cameron Payne	PHX	5A	NR	$3.9	3.9	2.3	1.7	0.6	1.4	112	1.2	92	0.2	254
Collin Sexton	CLE	5A	NR	$9.5	3.5	-0.6	1.0	-1.6	-3.6	751	0.2	250	-3.8	754
D'Angelo Russell	MIN	5A	4B	$11.1	2.9	0.6	1.9	-1.3	-1.2	625	0.2	246	-1.5	704
Danilo Gallinari	ATL	5A	4A	$15.3	2.5	0.1	1.2	-1.1	3.2	31	3.8	9	-0.6	589
Danny Green	PHI	5A	4B	$19.3	6.4	1.9	0.7	1.2	4.5	15	3.1	20	1.4	57
Davis Bertans	WAS	5A	5A	$17.6	2.9	-0.1	1.2	-1.3	2.7	41	3.5	13	-0.8	626
Dejounte Murray	SAS	5A	5A	$23.4	6.7	1.6	0.3	1.3	1.2	132	1.0	120	0.2	255
Dennis Schroeder	FA	5A	5A	$11.4	4.2	0.2	0.4	-0.2	2.0	69	0.7	154	1.3	66
Derrick White	SAS	5A	5A	$23.5	3.8	2.3	1.7	0.6	3.3	28	1.1	111	2.2	20
Devonte' Graham	NOP	5A	5A	$19.1	6.2	2.5	2.3	0.2	0.5	218	1.1	116	-0.5	584
Duncan Robinson	MIA	5A	5A	$23.9	5.5	0.6	1.3	-0.7	3.6	23	2.2	38	1.4	58
Evan Fournier	NYK	5A	5A	$13.4	3.8	1.5	1.8	-0.3	1.1	142	1.4	76	-0.3	491
Gary Trent Jr.	TOR	5A	NR	$5.4	2.2	-1.2	0.2	-1.4	-1.4	641	1.2	102	-2.6	750
Harrison Barnes	SAC	5A	NR	$14.7	5.7	1.0	1.1	-0.1	0.8	180	0.4	210	0.4	206
Immanuel Quickley	NYK	5A	NR	$16.2	3.7	1.4	1.4	0.0	2.6	46	1.7	51	0.8	125
Ivica Zubac	LAC	5A	5A	$15.6	6.1	2.5	0.4	2.2	1.4	116	-1.1	641	2.5	13
Jaren Jackson Jr.	MEM	5A	4B	$6.9	0.3	-1.6	-0.4	-1.2	-2.6	723	-2.4	747	-0.2	451
Jarrett Allen	CLE	5A	5A	$16.0	5.2	1.1	0.5	0.5	1.2	131	0.4	215	0.9	118
Jeff Green	DEN	5A	NR	$3.5	2.5	-1.0	0.1	-1.1	-0.4	475	0.8	141	-1.2	684
Jonathan Isaac	ORL	5A	5A	$4.6	3.3	1.9	-0.9	2.8	1.6	102	-0.2	440	1.8	32
Jordan Clarkson	UTA	5A	NR	$15.5	4.4	0.5	1.2	-0.7	0.1	302	2.3	32	-2.2	742
Kelly Olynyk	DET	5A	NR	$14.2	6.5	1.6	1.4	0.2	1.0	157	1.2	99	-0.2	479
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope	WAS	5A	5A	$10.5	5.2	1.1	0.1	1.0	0.0	326	0.7	157	-0.7	619
Kevin Huerter	ATL	5A	NR	$14.6	3.4	-0.6	-0.3	-0.4	0.0	350	0.4	200	-0.5	568
Kyle Anderson	MEM	5A	NR	$21.2	6.9	2.4	0.4	2.0	-0.3	448	-1.6	704	1.3	65
Lonzo Ball	CHI	5A	NR	$22.5	6.1	2.1	1.5	0.7	0.2	274	-0.5	526	0.7	145
Marcus Morris Sr.	LAC	5A	NR	$7.7	2.2	-0.8	1.1	-1.9	-0.2	400	1.5	64	-1.7	721
Nerlens Noel	NYK	5A	NR	$5.6	3.5	0.3	-1.8	2.1	0.1	308	-1.0	634	1.1	84
Nicolas Batum	LAC	5A	NR	$10.6	6.3	2.0	0.1	1.9	1.9	76	1.2	97	0.7	137
Norman Powell	POR	5A	NR	$13.0	5	0.3	0.7	-0.4	-0.8	548	-0.1	378	-0.7	613
P.J. Washington	CHA	5A	NR	$10.5	3.7	-0.3	-0.7	0.4	1.4	122	0.0	310	1.3	64
Patrick Beverley	LAC	5A	4B	$10.5	2.4	1.1	0.1	1.0	3.3	29	1.7	57	1.7	39
Reggie Jackson	LAC	5A	NR	$9.1	4.4	1.2	1.2	0.0	3.3	30	2.2	39	1.2	77
Richaun Holmes	SAC	5A	NR	$18.2	5.2	1.3	1.2	0.1	1.1	141	1.2	100	0.0	382
Robert Williams III	BOS	5A	NR	$4.3	3.8	2.7	1.4	1.3	-0.8	549	0.7	158	-1.5	708
Steven Adams	MEM	5A	5A	$13.9	3.6	0.3	-0.1	0.3	3.0	36	2.5	28	0.5	172
T.J. Warren	IND	5A	5A	$14.4	0	-3.6	-1.7	-1.8	-0.3	441	-0.3	467	0.0	354
Terry Rozier	CHA	5A	NR	$12.1	8.1	2.0	2.4	-0.4	-2.6	726	-1.4	687	-1.2	689
Tim Hardaway Jr.	DAL	5A	5A	$12.8	5.4	1.0	1.4	-0.5	0.0	352	1.1	104	-1.2	674
Tyrese Haliburton	SAC	5A	NR	$16.9	2.8	-0.7	0.5	-1.2	-1.5	645	0.5	192	-1.9	734

tiger0330 · Aug 16, 2021

Here is the Tiers list in full. Again, my apologies for not having made it clear earlier that within each sub tier, players are ordered alphabetically by first name rather than ranked. I regret any angst or confusion that may have caused.
2021 NBA Player Tiers: The Top 125

PLAYER	TEAM	TIER	LAST YEAR	BORD$	EPM WINS	EPM	OEPM	ODPM	RAPM	RANK	ORAPM	ORAPM RANK	DRAPM	DRAPM RANK
Giannis Antetokounmpo	MIL	1A	1A	$71.6	11.8	5.5	4.1	1.4	6.4	3	2.3	30	4.1	2
Kevin Durant	BKN	1A	1B	$34.8	6.2	4.9	4.6	0.3	6.5	2	5.5	2	1.0	95
LeBron James	LAL	1A	1A	$47.9	10.1	6.9	4.5	2.4	6.0	4	3.2	17	2.9	10
James Harden	BKN	1B	1A	$50.3	7.8	4.5	4.9	-0.4	5.0	9	4.7	3	0.3	231
Kawhi Leonard	LAC	1B	1A	$51.7	11.6	6.5	5.1	1.4	5.8	5	4.4	6	1.4	56
Nikola Jokic	DEN	1B	2A	$51.8	18.4	7.9	6.9	1.1	3.1	33	2.9	22	0.2	256
Stephen Curry	GSW	1B	1B	$34.5	14.6	6.9	7.5	-0.6	5.7	6	4.7	4	1.0	97
Anthony Davis	LAL	2A	2A	$44.9	4.7	3.0	0.8	2.1	2.2	60	1.1	106	1.1	86
Joel Embiid	PHI	2A	2B	$46.3	10.2	6.4	4.4	2.0	4.8	11	2.2	37	2.6	11
Luka Doncic	DAl	2A	2A	$51.8	12.9	5.3	5.3	0.0	2.0	71	3.5	12	-1.6	711
Damian Lillard	POR	2B	2B	$45.5	14.5	5.8	6.7	-0.9	4.6	13	5.8	1	-1.3	691
Jimmy Butler	MIA	2B	2B	$40.3	11.1	6.4	3.4	3.0	4.2	17	2.2	35	1.9	28
Paul George	LAC	2B	2C	$39.9	10.2	5.1	3.3	1.8	7.0	1	3.6	11	3.4	5
Rudy Gobert	UTA	2B	2C	$41.9	15.6	7.5	1.2	6.2	5.3	8	1.1	103	4.1	1
Bam Adebayo	MIA	2C	3A	$30.3	8.6	2.9	1.2	1.7	2.6	45	0.9	130	1.7	40
Chris Paul	PHX	2C	2C	$36.2	10.1	3.7	3.1	0.6	5.4	7	3.2	18	2.3	19
Jayson Tatum	BOS	2C	2C	$50.7	8.9	2.7	2.9	-0.2	5.0	10	3.2	16	1.8	33
Khris Middleton	MIL	2C	3A	$30.8	6.9	1.5	1.7	-0.2	2.3	54	1.8	49	0.6	164
Kyrie Irving	BKN	2C	3A	$35.8	9.5	4.4	4.6	-0.2	2.1	66	2.5	26	-0.4	558
Devin Booker	PHX	3A	3A	$35.0	6.3	1.1	2.2	-1.1	2.4	50	4.6	5	-2.2	743
Jrue Holiday	MIL	3A	3A	$34.7	9.4	4.2	2.5	1.7	3.9	19	3.0	21	0.9	123
Trae Young	ATL	3A	3B	$39.3	9.1	3.3	4.7	-1.4	0.0	344	3.8	8	-3.8	755
Zion Williamson	NOP	3A	3B	$37.5	10.2	4.4	3.8	0.6	1.9	77	2.4	29	-0.6	586
Bradley Beal	WAS	3B	3A	$33.8	8.6	2.9	4.2	-1.3	1.5	106	4.3	7	-2.8	751
Donovan Mitchell	UTA	3B	3B	$34.8	7.2	2.9	3.6	-0.7	-0.1	389	0.8	145	-0.9	645
Ja Morant	MEM	3B	3B	$22.8	4.4	0.2	1.5	-1.3	1.9	78	2.1	40	-0.2	480
Jamal Murray	DEN	3B	3A	$33.8	7	3.1	2.4	0.7	3.4	25	2.6	25	0.9	121
Karl-Anthony Towns	MIN	3B	3A	$36.2	8.1	4.0	4.6	-0.6	3.0	38	3.8	10	-0.8	629
Mike Conley	UTA	3B	4B	$24.5	8.8	5.6	3.2	2.4	3.2	32	1.7	53	1.5	53
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander	OKC	3B	4A	$25.5	4.7	2.9	3.3	-0.4	-0.6	493	0.5	190	-1.1	659
Ben Simmons	PHI	3C	3A	$33.2	7.9	3.2	0.3	2.9	0.9	170	-0.1	359	0.9	111
Draymond Green	GSW	3C	3A	$21.7	7.5	2.5	-0.4	2.9	3.4	27	1.5	73	2.0	27
Jaylen Brown	BOS	3C	3B	$27.3	6.8	2.0	2.0	0.0	0.3	249	0.2	241	0.0	346
Pascal Siakam	TOR	3C	3B	$33.4	5.7	1.1	1.2	-0.1	4.7	12	2.3	34	2.5	14
Russell Westbrook	LAL	3C	3B	$27.2	7.2	1.4	1.0	0.5	1.4	120	-0.1	395	1.5	50
Zach LaVine	CHI	3C	4B	$26.7	9	3.5	4.1	-0.6	0.3	241	2.0	43	-1.7	720
Brandon Ingram	NOP	4A	4A	$29.6	5.5	0.9	2.4	-1.5	-0.1	368	1.0	117	-1.1	665
CJ McCollum	POR	4A	4A	$27.6	6.7	3.1	4.1	-1.1	2.9	39	3.1	19	-0.2	446
Clint Capela	ATL	4A	5A	$26.4	8.7	3.7	1.5	2.2	3.8	21	0.3	221	3.5	3
De'Aaron Fox	SAC	4A	4A	$30.5	5.8	1.1	2.3	-1.2	0.2	267	1.7	50	-1.6	713
DeMar DeRozan	CHI	4A	4A	$15.3	5.1	0.7	2.9	-2.3	-0.2	417	1.5	69	-1.7	719
Domantas Sabonis	IND	4A	4A	$26.2	7.3	1.8	0.8	1.0	1.7	87	0.5	187	1.2	74
Fred VanVleet	TOR	4A	3B	$31.3	9	3.9	2.1	1.8	2.4	48	1.5	67	0.9	115
Gordon Hayward	CHA	4A	4A	$17.4	4.3	1.2	0.9	0.4	4.2	16	2.3	31	1.9	30
Jerami Grant	DET	4A	5A	$12.0	4.3	0.5	0.5	0.0	-0.1	365	0.1	300	-0.1	434
Joe Harris	BKN	4A	4B	$14.8	7.3	2.0	2.1	-0.1	2.6	43	2.6	24	0.0	355
Joe Ingles	UTA	4A	4A	$18.5	7.9	3.2	2.4	0.8	3.8	22	1.7	54	2.1	24
Julius Randle	NYK	4A	NR	$27.2	11.1	3.1	1.5	1.6	1.4	119	0.1	303	1.3	63
Kemba Walker	NYK	4A	3A	$26.9	5.3	2.7	2.6	0.1	3.0	35	3.4	15	-0.4	555
Kyle Lowry	MIA	4A	3A	$25.2	5.2	1.8	2.3	-0.5	1.9	73	1.4	79	0.6	167
LaMelo Ball	CHA	4A	NR	$23.3	2.6	-0.4	0.4	-0.8	-0.6	503	0.4	212	-1.0	655
Malcolm Brogdon	IND	4A	4A	$21.8	6	1.6	2.0	-0.4	2.7	42	1.9	46	0.8	129
Myles Turner	IND	4A	4B	$17.4	4.3	1.4	-0.6	2.0	1.1	150	-1.2	674	2.3	18
Nikola Vucevic	CHI	4A	4A	$17.8	7.6	1.7	2.2	-0.5	0.9	162	0.1	295	0.9	124
Robert Covington	POR	4A	4A	$23.1	4.8	0.1	-0.3	0.4	1.9	75	0.3	228	1.6	45
Seth Curry	PHI	4A	5A	$11.8	4.6	1.1	0.7	0.4	2.1	64	1.6	62	0.5	173
Aaron Gordon	DEN	4B	5A	$19.6	3.2	0.3	0.2	0.2	2.5	47	1.5	72	1.0	94
Al Horford	BOS	4B	5A	$6.9	2.1	1.0	1.1	0.0	2.3	51	0.2	237	2.1	23
Bogdan Bogdanovic	ATL	4B	4B	$16.7	5	2.6	2.7	0.0	1.7	88	1.3	82	0.4	207
Bojan Bogdanovic	UTA	4B	4A	$11.2	5.8	0.8	0.9	-0.1	1.4	118	1.6	63	-0.2	453
Brook Lopez	MIL	4B	4A	$15.7	6.6	2.1	0.9	1.2	3.0	37	1.1	113	1.9	29
Caris LeVert	IND	4B	4B	$11.8	3.5	0.4	0.6	-0.3	1.2	140	1.3	85	-0.1	424
Christian Wood	HOU	4B	5A	$18.8	5.3	2.9	1.1	1.8	1.7	85	1.1	110	0.6	154
Deandre Ayton	PHX	4B	5A	$24.7	7.6	2.3	1.2	1.1	0.2	270	-0.1	388	0.3	223
De'Andre Hunter	ATL	4B	NR	$8.5	2.1	1.6	-0.2	1.8	0.1	289	-0.8	595	0.9	114
Derrick Rose	NYK	4B	4A	$10.1	3	0.4	0.0	0.4	1.5	103	1.6	60	-0.1	407
Dillon Brooks	MEM	4B	NR	$13.9	3.9	-0.2	-0.1	0.0	2.0	70	1.1	114	1.0	107
Jae Crowder	PHX	4B	5A	$13.2	5.5	2.0	0.0	2.0	0.6	216	0.8	142	-0.2	487
John Collins	ATL	4B	4B	$25.6	6.3	2.0	2.4	-0.4	3.0	34	1.9	45	1.1	81
Jonas Valanciunas	NOP	4B	5A	$19.1	6.4	2.3	2.6	-0.3	2.2	59	0.7	159	1.5	51
Jusuf Nurkic	POR	4B	4A	$5.6	3.1	2.1	-0.3	2.4	3.4	26	1.4	75	2.0	26
Klay Thompson	GSW	4B	3B	$11.1	7.7	1.3	1.7	-0.4	0.3	244	0.2	240	0.1	339
Kristaps Porzingis	DAL	4B	3B	$25.0	4.1	1.5	2.5	-1.0	1.6	95	2.0	44	-0.3	514
Marcus Smart	BOS	4B	4A	$23.0	5.7	2.3	0.7	1.6	1.7	91	0.4	204	1.2	70
Michael Porter Jr.	DEN	4B	NR	$33.2	7.5	2.8	3.7	-0.9	1.7	89	3.5	14	-1.8	726
Mikal Bridges	PHX	4B	5A	$26.6	8.2	2.2	1.9	0.3	1.8	82	0.8	139	1.0	104
OG Anunoby	TOR	4B	4B	$25.8	5.2	2.3	0.8	1.6	0.7	198	-0.3	457	0.9	109
Spencer Dinwiddie	WAS	4B	4B	$13.1		-3.1	-2.4	-0.7	0.1	284	0.7	171	-0.5	580
Tobias Harris	PHI	4B	4A	$29.0	7	2.1	1.3	0.8	0.7	190	-0.2	410	0.9	120
Alex Caruso	CHI	5A	NR	$12.1	3.9	1.7	-1.9	3.6	4.5	14	1.1	105	3.4	4
Andrew Wiggins	GSW	5A	5A	$17.2	5.2	0.2	-0.3	0.5	-0.1	361	0.5	194	-0.5	581
Anthony Edwards	MIN	5A	NR	$22.7	2.7	-1.3	0.0	-1.3	-1.4	640	0.9	133	-2.3	744
Blake Griffin	BKN	5A	5A	$5.5	3.5	1.4	0.2	1.2	1.8	79	1.2	101	0.7	143
Bruce Brown	BKN	5A	NR	$14.8	2	-1.0	0.1	-1.1	0.6	214	0.3	218	0.2	253
Buddy Hield	SAC	5A	5A	$15.5	4.5	-0.3	2.0	-2.3	1.1	145	1.7	56	-0.6	597
Cameron Payne	PHX	5A	NR	$3.9	3.9	2.3	1.7	0.6	1.4	112	1.2	92	0.2	254
Collin Sexton	CLE	5A	NR	$9.5	3.5	-0.6	1.0	-1.6	-3.6	751	0.2	250	-3.8	754
D'Angelo Russell	MIN	5A	4B	$11.1	2.9	0.6	1.9	-1.3	-1.2	625	0.2	246	-1.5	704
Danilo Gallinari	ATL	5A	4A	$15.3	2.5	0.1	1.2	-1.1	3.2	31	3.8	9	-0.6	589
Danny Green	PHI	5A	4B	$19.3	6.4	1.9	0.7	1.2	4.5	15	3.1	20	1.4	57
Davis Bertans	WAS	5A	5A	$17.6	2.9	-0.1	1.2	-1.3	2.7	41	3.5	13	-0.8	626
Dejounte Murray	SAS	5A	5A	$23.4	6.7	1.6	0.3	1.3	1.2	132	1.0	120	0.2	255
Dennis Schroeder	FA	5A	5A	$11.4	4.2	0.2	0.4	-0.2	2.0	69	0.7	154	1.3	66
Derrick White	SAS	5A	5A	$23.5	3.8	2.3	1.7	0.6	3.3	28	1.1	111	2.2	20
Devonte' Graham	NOP	5A	5A	$19.1	6.2	2.5	2.3	0.2	0.5	218	1.1	116	-0.5	584
Duncan Robinson	MIA	5A	5A	$23.9	5.5	0.6	1.3	-0.7	3.6	23	2.2	38	1.4	58
Evan Fournier	NYK	5A	5A	$13.4	3.8	1.5	1.8	-0.3	1.1	142	1.4	76	-0.3	491
Gary Trent Jr.	TOR	5A	NR	$5.4	2.2	-1.2	0.2	-1.4	-1.4	641	1.2	102	-2.6	750
Harrison Barnes	SAC	5A	NR	$14.7	5.7	1.0	1.1	-0.1	0.8	180	0.4	210	0.4	206
Immanuel Quickley	NYK	5A	NR	$16.2	3.7	1.4	1.4	0.0	2.6	46	1.7	51	0.8	125
Ivica Zubac	LAC	5A	5A	$15.6	6.1	2.5	0.4	2.2	1.4	116	-1.1	641	2.5	13
Jaren Jackson Jr.	MEM	5A	4B	$6.9	0.3	-1.6	-0.4	-1.2	-2.6	723	-2.4	747	-0.2	451
Jarrett Allen	CLE	5A	5A	$16.0	5.2	1.1	0.5	0.5	1.2	131	0.4	215	0.9	118
Jeff Green	DEN	5A	NR	$3.5	2.5	-1.0	0.1	-1.1	-0.4	475	0.8	141	-1.2	684
Jonathan Isaac	ORL	5A	5A	$4.6	3.3	1.9	-0.9	2.8	1.6	102	-0.2	440	1.8	32
Jordan Clarkson	UTA	5A	NR	$15.5	4.4	0.5	1.2	-0.7	0.1	302	2.3	32	-2.2	742
Kelly Olynyk	DET	5A	NR	$14.2	6.5	1.6	1.4	0.2	1.0	157	1.2	99	-0.2	479
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope	WAS	5A	5A	$10.5	5.2	1.1	0.1	1.0	0.0	326	0.7	157	-0.7	619
Kevin Huerter	ATL	5A	NR	$14.6	3.4	-0.6	-0.3	-0.4	0.0	350	0.4	200	-0.5	568
Kyle Anderson	MEM	5A	NR	$21.2	6.9	2.4	0.4	2.0	-0.3	448	-1.6	704	1.3	65
Lonzo Ball	CHI	5A	NR	$22.5	6.1	2.1	1.5	0.7	0.2	274	-0.5	526	0.7	145
Marcus Morris Sr.	LAC	5A	NR	$7.7	2.2	-0.8	1.1	-1.9	-0.2	400	1.5	64	-1.7	721
Nerlens Noel	NYK	5A	NR	$5.6	3.5	0.3	-1.8	2.1	0.1	308	-1.0	634	1.1	84
Nicolas Batum	LAC	5A	NR	$10.6	6.3	2.0	0.1	1.9	1.9	76	1.2	97	0.7	137
Norman Powell	POR	5A	NR	$13.0	5	0.3	0.7	-0.4	-0.8	548	-0.1	378	-0.7	613
P.J. Washington	CHA	5A	NR	$10.5	3.7	-0.3	-0.7	0.4	1.4	122	0.0	310	1.3	64
Patrick Beverley	LAC	5A	4B	$10.5	2.4	1.1	0.1	1.0	3.3	29	1.7	57	1.7	39
Reggie Jackson	LAC	5A	NR	$9.1	4.4	1.2	1.2	0.0	3.3	30	2.2	39	1.2	77
Richaun Holmes	SAC	5A	NR	$18.2	5.2	1.3	1.2	0.1	1.1	141	1.2	100	0.0	382
Robert Williams III	BOS	5A	NR	$4.3	3.8	2.7	1.4	1.3	-0.8	549	0.7	158	-1.5	708
Steven Adams	MEM	5A	5A	$13.9	3.6	0.3	-0.1	0.3	3.0	36	2.5	28	0.5	172
T.J. Warren	IND	5A	5A	$14.4		-3.6	-1.7	-1.8	-0.3	441	-0.3	467	0.0	354
Terry Rozier	CHA	5A	NR	$12.1	8.1	2.0	2.4	-0.4	-2.6	726	-1.4	687	-1.2	689
Tim Hardaway Jr.	DAL	5A	5A	$12.8	5.4	1.0	1.4	-0.5	0.0	352	1.1	104	-1.2	674
Tyrese Haliburton	SAC	5A	NR	$16.9	2.8	-0.7	0.5	-1.2	-1.5	645	0.5	192	-1.9	734

tiger0330 · Aug 16, 2021

Hawks have 4 guys that I saw on that top 125, Trae, Collins, Hunter and Huerter. RJ just as good and valuable as Collins, Hunter and Huerter to me. But maybe you should be a Hawks fan since you live down there Dark.

Dark Raider · Aug 16, 2021

Tiger,
Thank you for all of the hard work that put into those chart. I truly mean that!!

Now if you can get that to all of the sportswriters that left him off the ROY, All- Rookie Teams and Top 125 it wouldn't make any different. We(Sportswriters and myself) are looking at TALENT not "Maturity, Intelligence and Hard Work". Those last 3 things aren't substitutes for Athleticism and Explosiveness. RJ doesn't process those qualities not THEN or NOW. I'm sorry to break the news to you but unless league give him an All Star selection he ain't making it when it comes to truly earning a spot. Again, those writers see exactly what I been telling you and other. RJ hasn't EARNED anything but given positions when he should have been on the far end of the bench. Let close with this about an All-Star selection it ain't worth 'Jack' now. Most of the star are slipping it to heal and rest up.

One more thing that is given to certain players. That is LEADERSHIP. He doesn't process that quality in the least. The team doesn't rally around him. They don't look at him when they come off the court when time out is called and the game is tight and they need a basket. The only player on the Knicks that process that quality is D. Rose, period.

Now for the Hawks fan statement:
Tiger, I probably been a Knicks fan longer than you been living. That doesn't give me anything special when it comes to other Knicks fan. It simple mean I know struggles that you don't know. I know talent because I was taught to see it from people who knew talent and pass it to me. I see very little that good from a team that I Love very much. All I see is a bunch of NO BB Knowledge people who run the Knicks and are driving them into the ground(I know you and other don't see that... and I understand that). You don't have to push me to become a Hawks fan the F.O. is doing a damn good job of that. I see nothing good for the Knicks for next 5 years then we start this same process of again. Tell me one knowledgeable BB person you know in the organization since JAX & C. Gaines left? Just one!! Do you think I want to see Stupidity and Incompetent from the F.O.? I'm about winning a championship since the last one and nothing else matter to me. Not going to playoff, not a player being an All Star or Most Improved. I started noticing the Hawks and how they were assembling talent. They have someone that knows BB. I'm not a big Trae fan or fan at all. See it Collins, Hunter, Huerter (and I thought they should have kept Spellman but they didn't) that make peak my interest. Collins is that team MVP in my opinion not Trae. If you were says become a Hawks fan to any other Knicks Fan beside me it would probably be very easy to do. I'm a true fan unfortunately... See in those struggles that I mention those are times when I truly need to be fan. You might not understand that but I know what it is to see a Knicks Championship. I don't see one in the near or distance future.

mafra · Aug 16, 2021

RJ Barrett was 47th in NBA in 3-point shooting %, right behind CJ McCullom and ahead of Malik Monk. He shot 40.1%.

They said he?d never be able to shoot the 3, and he improved in year 2 and made himself a top 50 3-point shooter.

I look forward to seeing where his game grows this year? I take RJ over Caruso and Bowen, easily.

Dark Raider · Aug 16, 2021

It obvious all the things you guys say are true about 3pt shooting, etc. What is more obvious all of what you say doesn't seem to matter in those Sportswriters opinions or evaluations of RJ. I wonder why because certainly they see what all of you see. So can anybody put there finger on it?? WHY?? What is it that makes Sportswriters have such a low opinion of him and his BB skills?

Do you think it time for you to re-evaluate RJ talent? Maybe ask some very HARD questions of yourself and certainly about RJ?

Not getting a ROY vote is someone shaking you. Not making any of the 3 All-Rookie team you start steering around. Not being name to the Top 125 NBA Players should have you eyes wide open. Something is Wrong!!

mafra · Aug 16, 2021

RJ was top ranked HS baller in 2 classes, he led his college team to Regionals in NCAA Tourney, he started and played every game on a team that finished 4th in EC in just his second year, on a roster devoid of talent.

Who cares what a national writer thinks? It was obvious he was all rookie second or third team. He was hurt bc he payed on a baaaaaad team.

Who had a better season last year, Zion or RJ? DeAndre Hunter or RJ? How about Shamet or Bagley?

RJ will probably be dealt to get Dame, so who really cares. I don?t love RJ the player, but I recognize the fact that of all our recent lottery picks?. RJ Barrett the biggest hit. KP? Doesn?t have the will to be great. Frank and Knox don?t have the talent.

What RJ excels at can?t be quantified by an ANALytcis guru.

Again, a 26 year old RJ is gonna be a force.

Did is only 21! People act Ike he?s a finished project. He already made y?all look silly after freshman year, bc critics claimed
He?d never be able to shoot FT or 3s.

So, if the question is? who was taken after RJ that we missed out on? I don?t see a player we missed on, and for the NYK who have a list longer than Santa of draft misses?. That?s saying something.

Did we pass on Donovan Mitchell or Kevin Porter Jr?

Dark Raider · Aug 17, 2021

Who Cares?? All of you care if the situation was reversed. F.O. and yourself would be making a point of showing that he deserves to be starting and drafted as high as he did. No it obvious he isn't All-Rookie nothing and you can't prove it. Memphis(Ja) and Pelican(Zion) didn't make the playoff in 2019 - 2020 season... So what does that have to with anything. It base on talent not team success.

Who had a better season? Ok, for the sake of time let say RJ did. Now who earned there starting position(s)? Earn not given! Let see if you can be honest with me as I was with you!

RJ should have never been drafted by the Knicks and should have been trade for one of the top 3 draft position last year. We would be sitting here talking about Wiseman or Edwards and the future. Yes, KP are serious!! No matter what happen he was the light on the hill not the light in the valley(RJ). Just my opinion!! As for Knox and Frank and talent they both have more talent than RJ. Play them the same way they played RJ. Give him a position and then letting him play nearly 40 minutes a game when he should have been sitting on the bench next the water boy. Now if you going to compare Frank and Knox give them the same privilege's that would be fair. But you can't do that because the F.O. had no investment in neither Knox nor Frank so they did everything to hinder their success.

What does RJ excel in if it can't be quantified?

How is a 26 RJ going to be a force? He playing 40 minutes a game now and he doesn't effect the game in the least. Look at my Avatar is going to be something like him? That a force!!

Being 21 is a asset or excuse? Sound like an excuse. He is finish there no room to grow it over. Played him nearly 40 minutes a game to get those stat. It only 8 minutes left!! Maybe you forgot about TEAM!! Yes, TEAM!! He has missed ROY, ALL-ROOKIE TEAMS(3) AND TOP 125 PLAYERS and we look silly. We don't have to make excuses for him not making them... YOU DO!!

Miss out, let try all the ones drafted after him. Let try trading him for any of the top 3 spot in the last year draft(not this year). After Edwards dog him you should be ashamed that he walks out on the floor. And what did he do after Edward dog him... Nothing.... So much for your force.

Pass on Mitchell or Porter Jr? Well it two different answer. Mitchell - The person that won the most championship said NO. Until you find someone with better credentials I will take his word. Porter Jr. - Yes, that is Perry and Mills mistake because C. Gaines told them to trade back with Clippers for their 12 and 13 picks. We could have had both Knox and Porter Jr. but Perry didn't do what suggest because it came from Gaines.

mafra · Aug 17, 2021

I don?t believe you comprehend how math works. The more playing time for RJ, means more shots, and more shots is usually a bad thing for shooting %, unless you make them.

So, please explain how a 20 year old bust somehow defied the critics and shot 40.1% from downtown? How? He?s only 21 and he somehow transformed his 3-ball! That?s how.

Played 40 minutes a night and still shot 40% from downtown.

Top 50 in NBA?. That?s how good he was shooting it from Deep, and this without a PG, SG, C who could score.

Please show me report MIN would?ve dealt pick for RJ. I would swap the 2, if offered, but unless you have a partner? you left with your hand and your imagination.

SSj4Wingzero · Aug 18, 2021

The names on that list are delusional and so is whoever wrote it

Dark Raider · Aug 19, 2021

When does Quantitative analysis you using math and stat's model to measure and research a behavior. It doesn't mention or have anything to with TALENT.

So when you say I don't comprehend Math I beg to differ. Math has nothing to do with it. BTW, Math was one of my better subject.

What you keep going around in circle about is you can't answer the question of why RJ is being left out of any conversation or awards that are being voted on? You keep bring up 3's etc and I have said ok if that your argument. Again why is he being left off of these awards? Simple question.... Do you have an answer or just maybe a thought?

When you are bad at something and you keep doing it over and over again. You at some point get the hang of it and become decent at it. That is what RJ was he was bad and F.O. said play him no matter what cost. He became decent.

Two things I mention the word 'Team' twice but no respond to that as to how he make the Knicks better. The other is the notion that by playing 40 minutes a game it mean he take more shots. Again I beg to differ with you. All it mean is that you on the floor for a most of the game. Does it mean you should be taking more shots, NO!! You may not have the hot hand. But in his case he is definitely not coming off the bench cold. The flow of the game dictate shots not minutes. Again, he just has the opportunity that is not afforded to other players at the expense of the team.

Why is it you always got to blame his lack of success on a scoring PG, SG or C. Maybe you forgot but he was the PG, Remember(what a disaster). Maybe you also forgot that he is listed as the current SG, or have you notice or have you switch his position again? So he is the SG so it shouldn't be a problem. As for Center maybe if you look at the F.O. that could have sign a scoring center in Cousins but didn't. That would have been the perfect match with D. Rose. But of course when you have none BB personal running you F.O. these are the mistakes you make. But that is what we are taking about is a MISTAKE, huh!!

There are no report that I know of about Minny and last year draft. How do you get a Transformative player if you don't put yourself in a position to draft one. Minny has KAT and others to form a contender for a championship. The Knicks have nothing close to KAT or any of their other players. So how do you get a player of talent of Wiseman and Edwards? Of course you enquire as to the availability of that draft pick. In our case you offer whatever they ask for in picks and definitely players. Now lets be clear, sound familiar, Minny probably didn't want a damn thing we had as far as players so the draft picks would've had to make the deal. Imagination and a BB person is what lacking in the Knicks organization. See we have no future of a championship because we have no one to take us there. Maybe you should think of 'TEAM' more than your praise of RJ. Remember BB is a TEAM sport not individual. I think you have forgotten or don't comprehend that fact.

Kiyaman · Aug 19, 2021

RJ Barrett gets NO praise from me, his b.ball IQ is very LOW from being an individual-player, he's not a complimentary same-page player with any of his teammates on offense/defense.
Plus RJ Barrett has showed us Knicks fans repeatedly he have to many FLAWS in his inconsistent-performance to be considered a team player, or a starter for the Knicks.
My evaluation come from RJ Barrett being the Knicks only rookie to receive 30 plus minute of playing-time in every game for two consecutive season.
RJ Barrett has never showed one performance in the Summer League games or Pre-season games or regular season games that earned him 30 minute of playing-time, or earned him a starter-position.
Being Knicks GM Perry's 3rd pick in the 2019 draft earned RJ Barrett those luxuries, under three head-coaches in 2 seasons. RJ Barrett were a FLOP in the playoffs!
The Knicks two 2nd round draft picks this offseason (McBride & Grimes) showed more grit and hustle to win on both sides of the court in the SL games than RJ Barrett showed in two seasons.

Kiyaman · Aug 20, 2021

Having a back-court trio lineup of Kemba, Evans, and Bullock's all-round hustle to make their performance more creative throughout the season.
Or .....
Having a backcourt trio of Kemba, Barrett, and Evans representing a 3 guard offensive lineup for 30 min per game .... That trio will need a very good offense/defense coach on their back throughout the regular season to stay a .500 team.

Dark Raider · Aug 20, 2021

What I thought was interesting was in several articles and online. They were saying the new Knicks backcourt is Walker and Evan. So what happened to last year SG? RJ!!
So now he must be the SF, huh?? If so then this is third position in 3 years. Don?t understand if he is that good at SG how is Evan getting his job or position?
Can any of you Pro-RJ fan please explain 3 different positions in 3 years?
Also he was great according to all of you last year at SG so how is he losing his position?

That second question is very dangerous. Give you hint?. Trier and Dotson!! Good Luck

mafra · Aug 22, 2021

Kemba not a sports writer but he believes in RJ:

Speaking on the young Barrett, Walker detailed his growth and come-up from the high school level.

?I?ve just been a fan of him. When he was in high school I saw him play and I saw his highlights and stuff like that, I?ve always been a super-big fan of him. Playing against guys like RJ, the first thing I noticed was how hard he plays, it?s not even the skill. ? That?s a real talent, playing hard. So I?m looking forward to just helping those guys a little bit more, teaching them the ropes. Just being a vet.?

Dark Raider · Aug 22, 2021

C'Mon Man!!
"How hard he plays, it’s not even the skill. … That’s a real talent, playing hard". It not even the skill?? If you notice it not plural(SKILL)... so would I be wrong in saying it one skill, correct? Then "That's a real talent, playing hard"... Well is it or isn't it a talent?

This sound like Walker is trying real hard to find something good to say about RJ. The only thing he can come up with is that "He plays Hard". Not that RJ is explosive going to basket... Not that is a great 3 pt shooter(now this is what you been harping on).... Not that he is a great/good/decent defender... Not that he can create his own shoot.... But that HE PLAYS HARD, GREAT!!

If you follow someone growth and playing High School level. And you saw him play you have more to say than he just 'He Plays Hard'. You speak to a game or games when he did this or that. You talk about the impact he had on the game or games.

Wonder did Walker lobby Boston to trade up to draft RJ?

BTW, there are 3 other questions in my last post on page 1. Maybe you miss them.

Kiyaman · Aug 23, 2021

The tandem backcourt of Kemba & Barrett as Knicks starters are questionable to me throughout the offseason. I'm just hoping our starter back-court don't turn into the old Charlotte Hornets having Kemba Walker & Gerald Henderson depending on center Al Jefferson performance for a Hornets win.

Dark Raider · Aug 24, 2021

Everything I seen says Walker and Fournier is the new backcourt. So that means RJ is moving to SF. How does the offense work now?? Grind it out, huh.

metrocard · Mar 29, 2022

Kiyaman said:
RJ Barrett gets NO praise from me, his b.ball IQ is very LOW from being an individual-player, he's not a complimentary same-page player with any of his teammates on offense/defense.
Plus RJ Barrett has showed us Knicks fans repeatedly he have to many FLAWS in his inconsistent-performance to be considered a team player, or a starter for the Knicks.
My evaluation come from RJ Barrett being the Knicks only rookie to receive 30 plus minute of playing-time in every game for two consecutive season.
RJ Barrett has never showed one performance in the Summer League games or Pre-season games or regular season games that earned him 30 minute of playing-time, or earned him a starter-position.
Being Knicks GM Perry's 3rd pick in the 2019 draft earned RJ Barrett those luxuries, under three head-coaches in 2 seasons. RJ Barrett were a FLOP in the playoffs!
The Knicks two 2nd round draft picks this offseason (McBride & Grimes) showed more grit and hustle to win on both sides of the court in the SL games than RJ Barrett showed in two seasons.

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[FONT=&quot]RJ Barrett PPG by month
October: 17.2
November: 12.8
December: 17.6
January: 21.8
February: 28.3
March: 24.3

20 ppg with good defense at 21 years old, stop hating man. RJ's play you intentionally ignore his good games. [/FONT]

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