Randle's 7 turn-overs, 2 miss layups, and the FT misses in crunch-time, plus his former teammate Caruso made him look real bad tonight as a PG. Maybe, that had a lot to do with the conclusion of tonight's game
Game thread: New York Knicks vs Chicago Bulls 11/26/2021 7:00pm [Game #22]
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Randle's 7 turn-overs, 2 miss layups, and the FT misses in crunch-time, plus his former teammate Caruso made him look real bad tonight as a PG. Maybe, that had a lot to do with the conclusion of tonight's game
Dark Raider
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The Bulls ball movement!
How everybody on the floor touch the ball!
Not taking a lot of 3's but playing good fundamental ball!
If the Bulls can get them an athletic PF they are going to be very hard to beat!
So where does that leave the Knicks? The offensive scheme that Thib's is running is trash compared to the Bulls. You saw it tonite on full display.
How everybody on the floor touch the ball!
Not taking a lot of 3's but playing good fundamental ball!
If the Bulls can get them an athletic PF they are going to be very hard to beat!
So where does that leave the Knicks? The offensive scheme that Thib's is running is trash compared to the Bulls. You saw it tonite on full display.
mafra
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It?s obvious now, passing on Lonzo Ball and DeRozan for Walker and Fournier was the wrong move.
Where are the Knicks right now with Ball and DeRozan? Walker is out of lineup and Ball would?ve been a nice young piece to add to the collection moving forward.
DeRozan would?ve stepped up and been 1A/b option with Randle. Ball would be in Ball?s hands?.
Going into the off-season, Ball was the top PG most of us clamored for. Unfortunately, Rose and Perry had another vision.
Knicks are 11-11?. Are they 16-5 if they signed Ball and DeRozan over Walker/Fournier?
Where are the Knicks right now with Ball and DeRozan? Walker is out of lineup and Ball would?ve been a nice young piece to add to the collection moving forward.
DeRozan would?ve stepped up and been 1A/b option with Randle. Ball would be in Ball?s hands?.
Going into the off-season, Ball was the top PG most of us clamored for. Unfortunately, Rose and Perry had another vision.
Knicks are 11-11?. Are they 16-5 if they signed Ball and DeRozan over Walker/Fournier?
RunningJumper
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I love DeRozan, but I'm not going to be saying the Knicks should have signed him because of how often he didn't show up in the Playoffs. Maybe that will change, and I hope it does.
Dark Raider
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What I saw in the loss to the Bull's.
First - There isn't a true PG out on the floor with Burks at that position.
Secondly - Burks as I said before magic will only last awhile. Plus Burks looks a little lost at the PG. Not to say he didn't do a decent job but it's something missing. I think he is much better coming off the bench. That could be because he is use to that.
Thirdly - 'Q' shouldn't be playing during crush time. He is a street baller and I don't understand Thib's fantasy with him. I did see him play some decent defense. He isn't starting material so lets not get carried away with that.
Fourth - If anything the Bull's showed what true chemistry is when you have a good coach. They ran the court better than the Knicks have ran since Clyde. This is a testament to good BB personal at every level. We don't have that.
**Finally this should show all Knick fans that the picture that been painted to us by the F.O. is very bad. That picture is a bright future with the players they have assemble. If anyone can see a bright future with this team please tell me. As much as I like Randle you don't build or offense around him. Everybody knows how I feel about RJ. How do you bring in a old coach with old ideas? Just look at the different between Thib's and Donovan of the Bulls. It night and day. Had a chance to watch Stephen Silas last night with Houston. He is doing a very good job with them. Putting vet and young player together. Silas is who I would have sign as the Knicks coach not Thib's.
** How do you turn around this mess into a bright future?? Outside of wiping the slate clean with firing everybody.
First - There isn't a true PG out on the floor with Burks at that position.
Secondly - Burks as I said before magic will only last awhile. Plus Burks looks a little lost at the PG. Not to say he didn't do a decent job but it's something missing. I think he is much better coming off the bench. That could be because he is use to that.
Thirdly - 'Q' shouldn't be playing during crush time. He is a street baller and I don't understand Thib's fantasy with him. I did see him play some decent defense. He isn't starting material so lets not get carried away with that.
Fourth - If anything the Bull's showed what true chemistry is when you have a good coach. They ran the court better than the Knicks have ran since Clyde. This is a testament to good BB personal at every level. We don't have that.
**Finally this should show all Knick fans that the picture that been painted to us by the F.O. is very bad. That picture is a bright future with the players they have assemble. If anyone can see a bright future with this team please tell me. As much as I like Randle you don't build or offense around him. Everybody knows how I feel about RJ. How do you bring in a old coach with old ideas? Just look at the different between Thib's and Donovan of the Bulls. It night and day. Had a chance to watch Stephen Silas last night with Houston. He is doing a very good job with them. Putting vet and young player together. Silas is who I would have sign as the Knicks coach not Thib's.
** How do you turn around this mess into a bright future?? Outside of wiping the slate clean with firing everybody.
metrocard
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a few months ago:
1. Ball wasn't coming to NY because the front office already decided to let him go to Chicago before we even had a chance to sign him.
2. DeRozan would not get any spacing because Randle kills it and we have Robinson in the paint. He's better in Chicago for his playstyle.
3. It was never Ball vs Walker. Ball was already out of reach because our front office was split on him. It wasn't that we picked Walker over Ball.
You on Demarr DeRozan
It's easy to say "it was the wrong move now", but you were all about keeping DeRozan from NY. I'm only bringing this to you because I agreed with you. Even with DeRozan playing well, he's 32 years old and isn't a good defender.
I agree with you here. I'm with on you on when you were aligned with the Kemba. I'm with you when you said we should stay far away from DeMarr. They weren't "wrong" moves. We both saw the logic in them. DeMarr was a better fit in Chicago. Knicks have too many traffic jam-type players with Randle/Robinson/Barrett who gets themselves into contested situations more than they need to.
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