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    Denver Nuggets Game thread: New York Knicks vs Denver Nuggets 12/4/2021 1:00pm [Game #23]





    (10-11) -- (11-11)

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    Madison Square Garden, New York, NY MSG 1:00 PM EST



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    Injury Report

    Denver Nuggets New York Knicks
    Bol Bol - Health and safety protocols (OUT) Jericho Sims - Illness (QUEST)
    Austin Rivers - Health and safety protocols (OUT) Nerlens Noel - Sore right knee (QUEST)
    PJ Dozier - Torn left ACL (OUT) Kemba Walker - Out of rotation (OUT)
    Michael Porter Jr - Back surgery (OUT) -
    Jamal Murray - Torn left ACL (OUT) -


    Game Preview

    The New York Knicks are a little frustrated after back-to-back losses that could have easily swung their way.

    First, New York lost to Brooklyn by two points on Tuesday. Then, Chicago came to Madison Square Garden on Thursday night and stole one with some late free throws.

    On the heels of those losses, the Knicks host the depleted Denver Nuggets on Saturday in a matinee game.

    Denver has lost seven of eight games, four of those without MVP Nikola Jokic. Now the Nuggets are dealing with more adversity with Bones Hyland and Austin Rivers in the COVID-19 protocols.

    Hyland and Rivers went into protocols before Wednesday's 108-103 loss at Orlando, leaving an already thin backcourt more short-handed. With the loss of P.J. Dozier to a torn ACL last week and Jamal Murray's continued rehab on his torn ACL suffered in April, the guard rotation is down to Monte Morris, Will Barton, Facu Campazzo and Markus Howard.

    Howard has played sparingly but will be thrust into a bigger role for the foreseeable future. Denver may have to bring in another player from the G League to fill out the roster while Rivers and Hyland are away from the team.

    "While you're out so many smalls and wings, it's definitely a conversation that we need to have," coach Michael Malone said.

    The Nuggets missed a chance to start their seven-game road trip with two wins. They led the Magic by double digits early before letting up in the second half and ultimately losing.

    "Sometimes human nature kicks in when you think everything was rolling your way, think a team's just going to lay down," Morris said.

    New York nearly pulled off a late rally against the Bulls on Thursday night. The Knicks trailed by 21 in the first half but came back to tie it. Julius Randle missed two crucial free throws and had a late turnover.

    Randle had 30 points, 12 rebounds and seven turnovers in the loss.

    "He did a lot of great things to put us in that position," coach Tom Thibodeau said after the loss. "We all have a lot of confidence in him. Sometimes, it doesn't work out. Go on, move onto the next play, get ready to get it done the next time. That's all."

    Even though Denver is missing key pieces -- including Michael Porter Jr., who underwent back surgery on Wednesday -- it is still a dangerous team with Jokic on the floor. He won the MVP last year with his all-around play but he is playing at an even higher level this year

    Jokic, who has missed five total games, is averaging 25.7 points and 13.8 rebounds despite being the focus of every defense. He will be a challenge for Randle and the rest of the Knicks.

    New York is also dealing with some rotation changes. Kemba Walker, who started 18 games, was pulled from the rotation and replaced in the starting lineup by Alec Burks. Walker has struggled defensively and his liabilities on that end of the floor prompted the change by Thibodeau.

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    Thanks for the game thread, rady.

    Why'd it have to be at 1 today? I really want to see the Nuggets play, but it's nice out now. There's no replays on MSG either for the rest of the day either and I didn't DVR it.

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    there's always nbareplay dot net so don't worry about it

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    Nuggets' threes keep on falling while we keep on bricking them. DEN up 38-26

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    Way too many open looks for Nuggets, they are 8-16 from behind the arc and no one's contesting them

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    Jokic hits a three to make it a 21 point game and the garden is losing its patience. Another horrible third

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    Second unit a disgrace today. Getting blown out. Can’t score or defend. At least starters kept it close until Jokic did his MVP thing…. But the 5 guys DEN using as second unit wow. Our bench should be ashamed.

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    Toppin misses another easy alley-oop dunk. This is becoming a problem. Pathetic.

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    8 straight wins for DEN over NYK. Knicks haven’t won in DEN since 2004 or something.

    DEN made 20 threes, for only 7th time in franchise history. Some bum off bench had a career high, and basically out scores our entire bench. IQ must have partied hard last night, for he was nowhere near ready to play.

    I want to see more Grimes bc team isn’t going anywhere. We should trade AB and Evan ASAP, for they may bring n an asset.

    Knicks won’t be above .500 again. Last year was bc of no crowds (this year we are 5-8 at MSG) and bc 2/3 of test of NBA in bubble and had little off season. Knicks had 10 months rest.

    1/3 of season in… 11-12 and it’s looking more and more like 2019….

    Randle, RJ, Rose… everybody on table…

    I would prefer to build around RJ, IQ, Obi and Grimes… keep Rose for leadership….

    But… call up POR and see what they want for Dame.

    If you look at EC, NyK lucky to finish 7-11… and that’s not a place to fight for. So, Rose and Perry better not listen to Thibbs. Don’t improve this roster… be a seller… we aren’t going anywhere….

    Unless you can get Dame or Beal or a real star, we better not be making literal moves or improving this team.

    Be sellers and hope for a lottery miracle then actually improve roster in off-season for once…

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    Sorry of game was the bench units…. DEN was undermanned and only ready had top 5 guys from their normal rotation…. They have MVP in Jokic… Game was going to be decided by the bench….

    Unfortunately, some guy named Njajiwhatever was the player who stepped up and saw his opportunity…. He basically shredded us…

    Our second unit destroyed 43-32 at HoME! They had no energy…. When called upon to start 4th to get tram back in it… they allow 4 straight threes and lead almost 30

    We really miss Taj. We were destroyed on the glass.

    Robinson had 6 rebounds… 4 on offensive glass. DEN killed us with 2nd and 3rd chances… where’s Mitch? 6 rebounds in 20 minutes? GTFOOH with that BS

    Mitch ain’t Bill Russe defensively… and since his rebounding and scoring is so bad, it’s time to really think about trading him… he’s not a good fit with this roster. Send him somewhere as part of a package for a star. I’m cool with Noel and Taj moving forward.

    Julius a man in press conference today. Owning up. His teammates better start playing defense, bc they don’t contribute enough offensively to justify playing minutes.

    11-12… after 5-1… means 6-11 since then… get ready for a 1-2 run next 3 games…

    Some good players in lottery… I turn my attention there… this team is toast. Last year might fool them a run is coming… it isn’t… this year ain’t last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rady View Post
    there's always nbareplay dot net so don't worry about it
    Thanks! I'll watch it there next time if I have a reason to. I won't be watching it for this game though. Not worth it.


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    The Nuggets arrived at the Garden as losers of seven of their last eight, as a sub-.500 team that was trying and failing to weather the long-term absences of Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. Denver still had the reigning league MVP, Nikola Jokic, but this was an opponent tailor-made for a market correction at the Garden, where the Knicks had somehow lost seven of 12 games.

    Instead, the Nuggets turned a spotlight on the Knicks’ biggest problem: their lack of consistent competitive heart.

    They are not nearly as hungry as they were last year, when they brought the city game back from the dead. It’s not often a team suffers a next-season hangover after a first-round playoff exit, but the Knicks were so rightfully celebrated for bringing a competent and determined brand of ball back to the Garden after a biblical drought, it’s understandable why they might enter Year 2 of Tom Thibodeau’s restoration program feeling too good about themselves

    Ian Oconner NYP

    Thibbs had a long talk with his team after this loss…. He said more changes are coming. Called out their effort and intensity…. Second unit gave little effort on defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rady View Post
    Jokic hits a three to make it a 21 point game and the garden is losing its patience. Another horrible third
    Whew-wee Rady .. I missed the game, but check the game stats, and the injury-prone Denver Nuggets had a 21 point lead at the end of 3rd quarter, plus a 20 yr old PF-Nnaji comes off the bench to score 21 pts, and grab 8 rbds .. When the Knicks highest bench scorer was D.Rose 11 pts, 4 rbd, and 4 ast..
    Today Game .... Says a lot about the Knicks team (player & coaches), and how they come together after two close losses (Nets/Bulls).
    My guess is as good as anyone .. on what been going on in the Knicks locker-room the past two weeks???
    I recall a incident on the court .... Quickley taking the 3 ball shot, after a Thibs timeout, we were down by 4 pts having 20 seconds left in the game. When we all know Thibs favors Randle's shot after a time-out, even over Fournier perimeter shooting. Well, that didn't happen. Quickley caught the inbound pass, he didn't see a open Fournier so Quickley did a Randle's dribble-dribble to the 3 ball line to hoist up a miss 3 that Derozan easy rebound having all the Knicks still behind the 3 ball line running to foul Derozan leaving 11 seconds in the game.
    Certain Players may want to be traded ???

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    The thought of the Knicks losing 7 of 12 games in a sold-out MSG, and going 1-4 in crowded stadiums in the playoff over the team they went 4-0 in the regular season in empty stadiums.
    The 41-31 Knicks last season performing in empty-stadiums were a FLUKE!
    Coach of the year were a Fluke!
    Randle All-star status were Fluke!
    Certain Knicks players & head-coach can't handle the 20K fans loud action in the stands on every play on court. Shame !!!
    The Knicks were 25-11 at home last season during the Covid-19 NBA !!!

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    I have two questions,
    the first one, what is wrong with our 3rd quarters, why we ALWAYS get destroyed in the 3rd, and how come we couldn't figure out a solution!!
    the second one, is it Mitch and Noel IQ that is preventing them from defending the 3 or it is the lack of defense from others which is pushing them to collapse on defense which is leaving the opposing center free to shoot threes?

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