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    Nyk Logo Is it that time .. for a NEW head-coach ???

    Sports announcers are giving Knicks coach Thibs a bad name .. After being beat by rookies 2 games in a row! Where's the Knicks 3 rookies?
    It seems like every post game interview Thibs says the same thing, "we have to play better" and every single game its the same starting line up, the same rotation, the same minutes, so for the most part the same results.

    Head coach Thibs dug his own grave and kept digging with EXACTLY the same BS with EXACTLY the same results- never seen such a bizarre coaching streak since Larry Brown's changing his starting lineups based on what players were from the city they were playing. In fact Thibs coaching lately has been so bad, so non-sensical it makes it seem like he's pulling a Larry Brown and spiting at the front office for making him have to get the new starter Kemba & Fournier to co-exit with Knicks tandem RJ Barrett & Randle in a offense/defense lineup throughout a 82 game season.

    How can Thibs honestly go from ranting at 15-20 games in (when we had a decent record) about how you can't just wait for things to turn around and you're going to have to make changes or the season will be over, to going to "you know what, I'm good- I'm sticking with this lineup forever"? Please, make sense of that for me ???

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    Red Auerbach couldn’t win with a team of guys who fall apart in the 4th quarter the way this team does. Never seen anything like it. Thibs has tried playing basically the entire roster in the 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Red Auerbach couldn’t win with a team of guys who fall apart in the 4th quarter the way this team does. Never seen anything like it. Thibs has tried playing basically the entire roster in the 4th.
    In the 4th qtr. this season Coach Thibs let Randle control the ball for 8 to 10 min, plus Randle has always been to tired in a transition-defense, and hitting FT in the 4th quarter.
    Randle's team leadership as the first offense-option gets no awards ....
    I really missed D.Rose leadership this season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyaman View Post
    In the 4th qtr. this season Coach Thibs let Randle control the ball for 8 to 10 min, plus Randle has always been to tired in a transition-defense, and hitting FT in the 4th quarter.
    Randle's team leadership as the first offense-option gets no awards ....
    I really missed D.Rose leadership this season!
    D.Rose was our closer. But alas Drose downfall again is he can’t stay healthy. But it shouldn’t all fall on a 30 year old off injured vet to carry this team down the stretch. Cmon JR what are you doing??? Someone has to be the Alpha on the team and that’s supposed to be you.

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    It’s now being reported that Thibs was in disbelief that the front office failed to make a single roster upgrade at the trade deadline.

    Thibs didn’t want Cam Reddish and front office dealt a 1st round pick anyway.

    Last year, Thibs desperately wanted Norman Powell, a superior player to Reddish, for our late season push and front office did nothing to get him.

    If Thibs goes before front office goes, this franchise deserves what it gets.

    Thibs was coach of the year last year. Anyone think the rest of the NBA would have voted a member of our front office as executive of the year?

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    WOW! Sports announcers & journalist are screaming, "The Knicks are an embarrassment to the NBA" which mean next season no national televise games.
    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x87z9a2
    Plus Steven A. Smith said "Fire Thibs and Trade Randle" in so many different words.

    Like I been saying, having Thibs & Woodson on the bench was a winning recipe, plus having a creative-scoring super-star D.Rose leadership on the court going down the stretch was a win win !!!

    When the Timberwolves buried coach Thibs career in a grave .. the Knicks got ex-Knicks head coach Woodson to dig him up, and sit alongside Thibs on the bench thru the 2020-21 season .. I was happy and Knicks fans were happy to have two NBA head-coaches on the Knicks bench. The Knicks future looked real good.
    When coach Woodson left the Knicks after March madness for a college job last season, Thibs had no one to remind him game after game bout the NEW NBA ....
    I missed coach Woodson awareness, plus D.Rose player leadership this season !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    It’s now being reported that Thibs was in disbelief that the front office failed to make a single roster upgrade at the trade deadline.

    Thibs didn’t want Cam Reddish and front office dealt a 1st round pick anyway.

    Last year, Thibs desperately wanted Norman Powell, a superior player to Reddish, for our late season push and front office did nothing to get him.

    If Thibs goes before front office goes, this franchise deserves what it gets.

    Thibs was coach of the year last year. Anyone think the rest of the NBA would have voted a member of our front office as executive of the year?
    Wsup htr .... U sound like all the fans arguing with me that coach JVG & Ewing wasn't TANKING the season because GM Grunfield traded Oakley & Starks for Camby & Sprewell. After owner Dolan fired GM Grunfield, JVG new he was next in line to be fired that season when owner Dolan & special crew attended all the Knicks games (home & away) the rest of the season. The Knicks made the 8th seed, plus went to the FINALS .. showing the Grunfield offseason trade improve the Knicks by 70% on offense/defense. Coach JVG were giving Camby the same treatment Thibs been giving Obi Toppin for 2 seasons, which railed-up GM Grunfield to get fired.

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    Thibs, Miller, Fizdale, Hornacek, Rambis, Fisher, Woodson, DAntoni, Isiah, Larry Brown, Lenny, Herb, Chaney ....
    I'm sure there are one or two coaches we should've kept, I liked Fisher as asst coach to headcoach Woodson. The same way Woodson were asst coach to DAntoni.

    I hesitate given the current state of the Knicks team (25-34), but the question is how to fix it?
    And is Thibs really unbendable to work with a FO that is forward thinking.
    His hiring he was all about accepting change as the game and perhaps even he has "evolved". If not, its the same old Thibs and thats not to much of a terrible thing (having assistant coach Woodson on the bench), but Thibs is not in synch with the Knicks front office.
    He wanted help at the deadline. He got got that "Larry Brown" kind of win now mentality. not a bad thing. But he needs a bit more "Pop" in him to also accept being forward thinking to what this roster is. Maybe we force an assistant on him in the off-season .. Plus refuse to get Thibs a decent healthy 30 min a game starter PG from the 2021 FA market. And their were a few too. .

    If our FO is not happy with him and with reason, then he got to go. If he is with reason then it needs to be mitigated perhaps with compromise.
    What is the goal? Play in? Development? What does FO vision for next years roster? Then does Thibs still the best man for the job? Sure its easy to say "lets move on" but what is the goal, and if not Thibs who is the best man for the job?

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    I challenge anyone to look at our roster, either last year or this year, and say that we are better than a bottom 10 team in this league as far as roster talent. Last year, Thibs led us to a 4 seed. This year, the wheels came off.

    Trust me. The NBA will have a field day laughing at us yet again if we fire Thibs. This is a guy who literally had Mark Jackson and JVG calling him a great coach and one of the best head coaches in the league a couple weeks ago.

    Go ahead, throw in with know nothings like Stephen A Smith that Thibs is the problem. I guarantee our next 3 head coaches will each last less than 2 seasons and average 20 wins a season.

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    Then who or what is the problem??

    I might want some of that guarantee bet on the next 3 H.C.

    As for Mark Jackson & Van Gundy they are paid to say nice things. They said nice things about RJ instead of telling the truth.

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    I will say get a proper PG to this team and it will solve most of our issues.... it is really pain seeing Alec Burks play the PG.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raider View Post
    Then who or what is the problem??

    I might want some of that guarantee bet on the next 3 H.C.

    As for Mark Jackson & Van Gundy they are paid to say nice things. They said nice things about RJ instead of telling the truth.
    I just don’t think we’re very good. There’s this idea of making minor upgrades each year but it doesn’t work in the NBA. Other teams are making huge leaps forward in talent each season, either by having draft picks turn into stars (like Ja Morant) or by bringing in elite talent via trade or free agency.

    We’re playing in a league where there are multiple teams that not only have multiple all-stars, they have multiple future hall of famers.

    You have to swing for the fences. No one wants to come here in free agency, but we could have made trades. If it doesn’t work out, good front offices know how to erase mistakes and reboot every year or two.

    We should have done whatever it takes to acquire an elite GM like Sam Presti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    I just don’t think we’re very good. There’s this idea of making minor upgrades each year but it doesn’t work in the NBA. Other teams are making huge leaps forward in talent each season, either by having draft picks turn into stars (like Ja Morant) or by bringing in elite talent via trade or free agency.

    We’re playing in a league where there are multiple teams that not only have multiple all-stars, they have multiple future hall of famers.

    You have to swing for the fences. No one wants to come here in free agency, but we could have made trades. If it doesn’t work out, good front offices know how to erase mistakes and reboot every year or two.

    We should have done whatever it takes to acquire an elite GM like Sam Presti.
    AGREED!!
    We had people that knew how win championship!
    We had people that knew talent!
    We had a Transformative player!
    We had Hope!!
    None of that exist on the Knicks now!!

    We also have cancer… and nobody wants to say it or deal with it!!

    Cancer is a horrible set of circumstance. There are no good options as you said. We will in this same state if all of the disease isn’t removed. If we as fans don’t say enough!

    One other every important thing about our fans is that they don’t know as much as they use too. For whatever reason our fan base went along with Mills and Perry and now L. Rose. Not a sound out of them until the problems started to show. How could all the fans not do this happening?? I saw it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyaman View Post
    Sports announcers are giving Knicks coach Thibs a bad name .. After being beat by rookies 2 games in a row! Where's the Knicks 3 rookies?
    It seems like every post game interview Thibs says the same thing, "we have to play better" and every single game its the same starting line up, the same rotation, the same minutes, so for the most part the same results.

    Head coach Thibs dug his own grave and kept digging with EXACTLY the same BS with EXACTLY the same results- never seen such a bizarre coaching streak since Larry Brown's changing his starting lineups based on what players were from the city they were playing. In fact Thibs coaching lately has been so bad, so non-sensical it makes it seem like he's pulling a Larry Brown and spiting at the front office for making him have to get the new starter Kemba & Fournier to co-exit with Knicks tandem RJ Barrett & Randle in a offense/defense lineup throughout a 82 game season.

    How can Thibs honestly go from ranting at 15-20 games in (when we had a decent record) about how you can't just wait for things to turn around and you're going to have to make changes or the season will be over, to going to "you know what, I'm good- I'm sticking with this lineup forever"? Please, make sense of that for me ???
    Have to say you were right when you said the duo of Kemba and Fournier wasn’t a good one as the reason the Celts gave up on them in less than a season playing together. I think you’re wrong on Thibs, 2 time COY, a tireless worker consumed with the game more than any coach in the league. Guys are not having the years they had last year, ie JR, IQ, Noel plus Kemba/Fournier not the roster upgrades we needed. Now the decision is does Thibs give up on this season (don’t think tanking is in his DNA) and develop guys like Grimes, Deuce and Cam and get a good draft pick.

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    If any 2022 star free-agent had any plans on signing with the Knicks, I'm sure the action of Randle, Thibs, Wells, Perry, and Leon before All-Star weekend changed their minds quickly .. Totally a organization of Mismanagement !!!

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