The problem is Jerome Williams + Tim Thomas = a garbage line up. Nether one of theese guys should be on the team. Send em packing. Penny's game declined after injuries and after he was moved to SG from PG. The guy is not a post up player so to have him play SF is crazy. And he has filled in as SF before. No wonder the world thinks he sucks. He's played out of his natural position 3\4 of his carrier. My suggestion is instead of trading him off at least attempt to but him as a back up for who ever will be the starting point gaurd. I'm not confedent that Crawford can be a strong force at point. But I am confident that Marbury can be a strong force at two gaurd and tha Q Rich can be a streaky shooter and a post up player as SF. I can remember back in the peak of Penny's carrier. They use to actually compair him to Magic. When he played Point. Of course those days are long gone but if he's got any gas left in the tank I think he can be most useful at his true position. The fact is Penny's contract is expireing so it makes lil sence to trade him off. Your entire line up is basacwards! Where's Marbury? Do you actually think Crawford will start over Marbury? If you actually believe Marbury will be traded, for who? Put it in your poor excuse of a line up. You think Marbury will be traded for nothing? Come on! Jerome Williams starting. I don't think so. If Marbury is to be trade ( cause he ant in your line up) then it well be for a quality player. My guess is a piece that we're missing like a Power foward. But that ant gonna happen! Marbury is the future of the Knicks. Lets stop the hate movement shall we.