Everyone except Lee is tradable on this team. We don't have alot valuable contracts because we have long term contracts with older washed up players who are on the decline (James, Rose, Marbury, Francis). Crawford is the same player he was 3 years ago, but worse, he has a long contract also. No one is trying to get Crawford or would be dumb enough to trade for him.
The guys who have value are Robinson, Lee, Fyre, Balkman, Collins, because they don't have ridiculous long term contracts that can kill your cap space.
Curry also if a team desperately needs a center.
I'm down to trade Robinson and Fyre, I really want Barbosa and Diaw in return, I really believe those two guys can help this team.
The rest of the long term bums, we just gotta suffer through what Isiah has put us threw no and in the future, and let those contracts expire, and hopefully be competitive then. I guess we'll be competitive again in 09. Thanks IT.
Yes, I understand Suns are one of the elite teams in the NBA. If you think about it, Fyre on the Suns would spread the court more, and add what the Suns been needing, a big man who can shoot. Nash and Fyre on the pick and roll would be deadly and benefit them. Plus, ever since Amare has arrived, Diaw hasn't played like the Diaw of last year, many people think Diaw and Amare can't play that well together. So Fyre will help their frontcourt dept and he will play better since he will always be open with Amare and Marion, two fowards who score 20+ a game. I think Suns will still be more elite, Robinson can easily replace Barbosa's role, considering how Nate loves to play a fast tempo, plus they get a first rounder. Also we have to consider Coleangelo isn't the GM of the Suns no more, so who knows. Its just a suggestion from me, because Barbosa and Diaw are two guys I've been wanting on this team for the last 3 years.
Thats a LEGIT crew.
Knicks have to trade Jeffries and Francis
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I.T. will never trade jefferies... he made too much of getting him over the summer to turn around and say oops... i made a mistake...
as to francis... he is a knick till feb of 08... when someone will take him for cap relief...ofcourse if I.T. is still here, he will probably trade him for someone equally inept, but with a longer term contract...
i don't think it would necessarily be terrible if nate got traded. it really all depends on what happens when he comes back from his forced vacation. he's young, passionate, talented, and a spark plug, but if he continues to play foolishly then he needs to go.
Jeffries to the suns for Raja Bell is one that I think would make sense for both teams. The Knicks would get a dominate defender in the back court, a guard that is D first but could knock down a 3 if need. Bell also is a great team player and good in the lock room. The Suns would get a 6'10" swing man that can defend the perimiter and down low. This also gives the Suns the ability to change up their lineup to match a bigger team. They could move Diaw to the 2 guard spot, Marion to the 3 and bring in Jeffires to play the 4. Now the Suns can go big or small depending on the matchup. This is the type of move that would push the Suns over the top.
I would see if I could get Atlanta to make this deal: Josh Smith for Channing Frye and a future pick (if needed to make the trade). This would address the Knicks need for a 3 that can defend and break down the D in the low post. Atlanta would get a big man that can run the floor and can stretch the D with his ability to hit from 16 feet plus. Frye is young so he would fit right in and Childress can play the 3.
Move Lee to the starting 4 positiion and try to land another 4 either with the draft or using Crawford and/or Richardson to trade for a 4. With Curry in the middle, they do not need another offensive minded big man. I would see if we could get Eaton Thomas from Washington for either player. I might even be interested in Zach Randolf from Portland or see if Mempis is looking to dump Gasol, but if they were you would need Frye in the deal to get him and that would negate the Atlanta trade. In that case you make it and maybe start Balkman to see if that works or keep starting Richardson. But, Gasol is highly unlikly so it is not really an option.
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I think that all of the above propositions are good ideas. But doesn't this whole overhaul of the roster thing sound a bit familiar...it's almost like Isiah has done it before...oh wait, he has. And it hasn't worked at all.
You guys are going to think I am crazy, but if I were in charge, i would seriously do nothing. Wait for all of the bums' contracts to expire (but sign Lee and Frye, maybe Nate and Balkman to relatively inexpensive long-term contracts). It will take 2-3 years, but we don't have any realistic chance to rebuild unless we do it--right now our only hope is that Isiah will draft a superstar (which he already has done with other teams, and we might have 1 or 2 in the making right now). It just seems that with every trade and free-agent signing, we take a step back. I think it's time for something a bit different.
What do you think? I know it's crazy...don't be afraid to totally trash this argument.
Thats the problem. We don't have any Raja Bell's. We have alot of Steve Francis' and Marbury's. Alot of medicore big men with terrible interior defensive game, besides Lee who's improving.
I'm open to trade everyone except Lee. I would like to keep Q-Rich, he doesn't do anything TERRIBLE, but nothing great.
Here's my agruement with Curry. His scoring is dominant, his rebounding has great improved, he LOOKS way more athletic this year than last year. But I can't LIVE with the fact that our leading scoring is a 16 ppg center who averages almost 3.5 turnovers a game. Thats not GOOD production or efficency. Any big man or foward 16 points per game should average 2 turnovers are most. The ammount of touches result in alot of points and turnovers. That means whenever our primary option scores, the other team gets an opportunity for a shot attempt. Usually the team with the most shot attempts has the better chance to win the GAME. I'm all about winning here, I'm a Knicks fan, I want to win games. I don't care if we don't get a superstar in a trade like a Kevin Garnett. I just want a core group of players who can help us WIN. Guys like Raja Bell and etc.
I don't know if we ever could get Raja Bell, or Josh Smith with the players on this team, but I'm going to hope management gets changed up first, then I could put more faith into better transaction for my team, more SMARTER moves, you know what I'm saying?