maybe you 2 should start smokin that good stuff to help your cataracts out. because if u dont think a player with a 11 year career average of 19.9ppg and 7.9 apg doesnt fit any where in your top 10 then you're either dumb or blind as hell. 'possibly not the best pg on the team'??? watch sum games u so called fans then your allowed to have an opinion that counts.
I just laughed my food up looking at this list. lol1.) Sebastian Telfair
2.) Smush Parker
3.) Marcus Banks
4.) Eric Snow
5.) Jordan Farmar
6.) Luke Ridnour
7.) Damon Jones
8.) Shaun Livingston
9.) Steve Francis
10. Jameer Nelson
...cough...cough...That's some good sh*t dude...
yea same here dude lolI just laughed my food up looking at this list. lol
The most productive PG's are
1. Kidd(All around)
2. Nash(Most valuable)
3. Arenas(Best scoring)
These two guys are the future of the PG position in the NBA, they're both at the same level. Paul is underrated. Hornets were banged up, but like I said before, injuries are part of the game
4. Paul
5. Williams
These two guys are some of the most productive/talented offensive PG's you can find in the NBA, both has similar styles, both strong PG's that can pass and score.
6. Marbury
7. Davis
These are winning PG's who had their sucess in the playoffs.
8. Parker(playing with Duncan helps, Parker is still a great PG)
9. Billups
He's overrated a big, solid defender.
10. Hinrich
Thank you. Y'all must be smokin' dat goody good to put Marbury anywhere near the top ten PG's in the NBA. At least 16 PG's are better because those teams make the playoffs. Can you Imagine Marbury on Dallas or Phoenix?? Yeah he is buried on the bench and only gets mop up minutes. Marbury had a better season last year than I thought but to put him anywhere near the top ten PG's in the league buy any rank but salary is a joke. Top 10 point guards LEAD their teams into the playoffs instead of riding the pine down the stretch with a towel on the thier head. Look how Baron Davis played in the playoffs hurt and lead his team to an improbable upset. You can't even put Baron and Marbury in the same sentence. I'm a true Knicks fan but damn, Marbury might not even be the best PG on the team, let alone top ten in the league.
The fact some of you did not even mention Gary Payton is astonishing...head to head in their primes...GP atleast 3x better than Marbury.
Marbury doesn't even make my top 10.
1.) Gary Payton-- Will be a HOF'er...outstanding offensive/defensive player every single season for well over a decade...role player now...but he to me has been the best PG overall for quite some time when he was in his prime. Championship ring gets him over.
2.) Jason Kidd-- number 2 only to Payton. Great hustler, great passer, steady handed. Triple double kingpin. Led team to Finals what 2x? another HOF'er with Payton.
3.) Tony Parker... he himself has won 3 championships in 5 years...he's got to be doing something right, not to mention 1 Finals MVP.
4.) Baron Davis---can play all phases of the game..offense, passing, scoring...get's over looked because of injuries last few years.
5.) Steve Nash-- same as Baron..cept plays no defense...but he hustles his ass off, and without him the Suns fizzle out.
6.) Mike Bibby- led his team to several playoff appearances. Always a key member. Just ran into much better LA teams when he had his best chance to win a title. One of the most consistent to ever play. And started every game of his career.
7.) Sam Cassell- everywhere he has gone. He was won..maybe not a title but playoff appearances. When healthy 100% and in the playoffs few are better than him. Constantly overlooked, and underrated.
8.) Gilbert Arenas-- would rank him higher but not starting for I think 2 seasons holds him back on my list. But his talent is bananas.
9.) Chris Paul-- the engine that runs NO. Period. He very well could be the next Oscar Robertson with his talent level. He could very well pull off averaging a triple double for one season.
10.) Derron Willams- has the killer instinct, can set up teammates, hit the 3, drive the lane. Can do it all...he works on his D...could be the next GP minus the trash talking.
I'd put AI at #4 and switch 6 & 7... but otherwise... I co-sign...
Pass that shit man.
You talk about winning so much, but doesn't even have a Finals MVP like Billups on your list? Talk about an inconstant view on things
AI = SG most of career, Snow played most of the PG in Philadephia, Blake in Denver. But you can also come back at me saying AI was the lead guard most of his career and basically was the offense of his team, meaning the leader.
Baron Davis has been injury prone, if he wasn't, I would agree also.
I'm not inconsistent. Billups does not impress me at all overall. Payton has 1, Parker has 3, Cassell has 2...championships. Billups as won 1 title...1 finals mvp. My list was made in conjunction with career, and post season accomplishments. I figured any fool could see that...
Every player on my list with the exception of Williams and Paul...those two being projections...has a great career and some playoff heroics to go along with them....Williams last playoff series doesn't count till he does it a few more times..and he was strong against SA.
Chauncey in my view is a one hit wonder...he wasn't doing shit till he got to Detroit..and when he hooked up with LB. Hell, Avery Johnson has 2 titles...had a long career...and he's not on my list. Kenny Smith is not on my list either...
My scores are composites between career, playoffs, and finals if applicable...all Chauncey has is 1 title...yeah yeah they have been to the Eastern Conference finals 5 times in row. They key to those teams was everyone none of the Pistons really stand out, at all.
I'm not inconsistent. Billups does not impress me at all overall. Payton has 1, Parker has 3, Cassell has 2...championships. Billups as won 1 title...1 finals mvp. My list was made in conjunction with career, and post season accomplishments. I figured any fool could see that...
Every player on my list with the exception of Williams and Paul...those two being projections...has a great career and some playoff heroics to go along with them....Williams last playoff series doesn't count till he does it a few more times..and he was strong against SA.
Chauncey in my view is a one hit wonder...he wasn't doing shit till he got to Detroit..and when he hooked up with LB. Hell, Avery Johnson has 2 titles...had a long career...and he's not on my list. Kenny Smith is not on my list either...
My scores are composites between career, playoffs, and finals if applicable...all Chauncey has is 1 title...yeah yeah they have been to the Eastern Conference finals 5 times in row. They key to those teams was everyone none of the Pistons really stand out, at all.
AI = SG most of career, Snow played most of the PG in Philadephia, Blake in Denver. But you can also come back at me saying AI was the lead guard most of his career and basically was the offense of his team, meaning the leader.
Baron Davis has been injury prone, if he wasn't, I would agree also.
I'm not inconsistent. Billups does not impress me at all overall. Payton has 1, Parker has 3, Cassell has 2...championships. Billups as won 1 title...1 finals mvp. My list was made in conjunction with career, and post season accomplishments. I figured any fool could see that...
Every player on my list with the exception of Williams and Paul...those two being projections...has a great career and some playoff heroics to go along with them....Williams last playoff series doesn't count till he does it a few more times..and he was strong against SA.
Chauncey in my view is a one hit wonder...he wasn't doing shit till he got to Detroit..and when he hooked up with LB. Hell, Avery Johnson has 2 titles...had a long career...and he's not on my list. Kenny Smith is not on my list either...
My scores are composites between career, playoffs, and finals if applicable...all Chauncey has is 1 title...yeah yeah they have been to the Eastern Conference finals 5 times in row. They key to those teams was everyone none of the Pistons really stand out, at all.
I'm basing this on accomplishment...and not just career average...
You want to give Steph all the excuses in the world for not leading a team to one playoff series win...NOT ONE. Ahh he didn't have help, he had guys that were injured, he left before they could develop whatever...you want to be a Marbury apologist fine.
I still think the KNICKS need to move him...and get someone else...because you cannot win with him...teams have been more successful without him at the helm of the PG position...not to mention we could use the cap space.
Spot on. The point is that teams get better after Marbury leaves and we need to take that lesson to heart. The problem is that even though Marbury plays like a lower tier player he is paid like an upper tier player and the rest of the league knows teams don't win with him on the roster. So we are stuck like chuck with this guy.
Only us Knick-Fans would put Stephon Marbury in the TOP 10 PG in the league right now.
The Marbury Hype is over you could not trade Marbury for Brevin Knight or an Old Sam Cassel if the contracts were the same.
The Knicks would've been in the last two seasons playoffs if the Knicks had Mike "Henry" Bibby at the PG rather than Marbury.
Marbury average 36 MPG in his career with the Knicks.
Marbury is only affective in the halfcourt set (inconsistency though).
His running game is questionable and the last time you seen his running game was when he was in a Phoenix Suns uniform.
The Knicks young Players want to RUN, and get into a fastpace transition game on bothsides of the court however, Marbury and Curry 35 MPG halfcourt offense dont let the young players play their game.
Kidd
Billups
Nash
Arenas
Iverson
Parker
Cassel
Bibby
T.J Ford
Chris Paul
Payton
The above is 11 Star NBA PG that show and prove each season that their performance is much better with their teammates than Marbury.
There are other PG like Hindrich, Baron Davis, Deron, Mo Williams, that has proved in the last 3 seasons their performance is above Marbury in so many standards.
AI played point at GT and in his first 2 or 3 years... then LB shifted him to 2... but yeah...
soooooooo... if your scores are composites between career, playoffs and finals... shouldn't chauncey be on your list anyway? his season averages (since coming to detroit) are 16 pts, 5 assts, 3 rebs, 1 steal... his playoff stats are even better 18 pts, 6 assts, 4 rbs, 1 steal... finals MVP and one chip... Payton has won no titles, no regular season MVPs, not even DPY... then you add Williams and Paul who have accomplished nothing and continue to say your list is valid...
Steph has career playoff averages of 19.4 pts, 6.7 assts, 3.8 rebs and 1.6 steals in 18 playoff games... season career averages are 19.9 pts, 7.9 assts, 3.0 rebs, 1.0 steal... since finals only count if applicable... I dare you to name someone else on your list who has better numbers than Steph...
be for real... you don't like Steph or Chauncy... don't front like you made an objective list when you used the same subjective criteria that you blame Metro for using...
ummmmm... yeah... definately not biased against steph... i take it back...
Minnesota won... Phoenix won... the Knicks won in his first year... THE ONLY TEAM THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS WITH MARBURY WAS NEW JERSEY... this is a fallacious argument... get your facts right before spitting on steph...
ummm... you really think we'd be better with Bibby than Steph? the only time Bibby made the playoffs... deep into the playoffs... he was on a loaded roster... Peja, Webber, Christie, Miller, Turkolu, Bobby Jackson... if Marbury was in Sacto... they would have done the same... what criteria makes TJ Ford, Cassel and Bibby better points than CP3?