Kiyaman and Doncris got some good posts.. They seem to realize that 20 ppg doesn't make you a star. Former Knick Jermaine Jackson averaged 20 ppg in the CBA, and current Knick Malik Rose averaged 20 ppg at Drexel. Are you gonna say they're stars, too?And not too long ago, last year, actually, Curry averaged 19.6 ppg. And Quentin Richardson averaged 17.7 ppg on the Clippers. Are they the Next Patrick Ewing and Lebron James?
the CBA and Drexyl, ARE NOT THE NBA....who said that jamaal was a star??? u obviously dont read, cuz the post said he is THE CLOSEST THING to a star ON THIS TEAM
And you still don't know what you're talking about cause
Randolph is > Crawford
Marbury is >>>>>Crawford
Since you like to use stats so much, let me use some of mine.
Marbury: Playoff Games played: 19
Zach Randolph: Playoff games played: 8
Jamal Crawford: Playoff Games played: 0
Awards/All Star appearances:
Stephon Marbury: 2 All Star appearances
Zach Randolph: Most improved Player
Jamal Crawford: Chucker of 2008
EFF THIS SEASON
Zach Randolph 18
Jamal Crawford 15
EFF stands for efficiency. It means how the team does when you're on the floor. Randolph is greedy and is turnover prone, yet he still has a higher EFF. How do you explain that?
Assist to turnover ratio: Marbury has a higher assist to turnover ratio, despite only playing 24 games this season.
SEE: Marbury 4 assists 2 turnovers
Jamal Crawford 4 assists 2.83 turnovers
Jamal Crawford 14ppg
Stephon Marbury 19.7 ppg
Zach Randolph 16.8 ppg
FIELD GOAL % THIS SEASON, FOLKS! I REPEAT, THIS SEASON!
Marbury 41.9% in just 24 games
Z-Bo 45.7 %
Jamal Crawford 41.2%(he shot just 40% earlier this season, by the way)
How can Marbury shoot a higher fg% when he only played 24 games?You mean to tell me he couldn't surpass 41.9% in his 57 games played?
And how does Randolph shoot a higher fg% if he has almost as bad shot selection as Crawford?
Free throw attempts per game to fg attempts per game this season
Jamal Crawford 17 attempts 4.72 free throw attempts
Zach Randolph 15.5 attempts 4.5 free throw attempts
Stephon Marbury 11 attempts 5 free throw attempts
How does Marbury average more free throw attempts, when he only played 24 games this season?
And how does Randolph average almost the same number of free throw attempts, if he plays 8 mpg less than Crawford and attempts 2 less shots?
Randolph is >>> Crawford
Marbury is >>>>> Crawford
So I think you're dumb theory is defeated.
How can someone be the closest thing to a star when they clearly aren't the best player on the team?
Last edited by abcd; Feb 25, 2008 at 20:25.
damn yo abcd just kimbo'd this fool.
btw condrads abcd for 500 posts-damn you did that quick lol
Last edited by GoKnIcKsDLEE42; Feb 25, 2008 at 20:22.
Damn player-centric usernames straight to hell.
lol I know. I've been slowing down, though. Almost 350 of my posts are in the first month.
i've been here for like a year and look at me lol. actually i didnt come here in the summer but still.
Damn player-centric usernames straight to hell.
abcd, ur trying too hard to b like msg with ur stats....they are meaningless....ill let the "gold mac 10" explain to u why a power fowards fg% is higher than our sg's own....cuz obviously u aint that smart to see it urself....marbury was out of the discussion cuz he's injured for the rest of the year....n randolph is a good pf....but he dosent play team ball....marbury had more free throws because he has a different style of play....if dwade got injured now for the rest of the season, by the end of the season he will still have more free throws than many players in the league....ur points are invalid....ppl play with different styles....who cares who made it to the playofffs...no 1 has a ring, so no1 gets more respect for appearences...people on the bench of the spurs have more appearences than crawford, zbo an steph combined....does that mean that they are better? no, they just are on good teams...another invalid point....the amount of games u play has nothing to do with ur turnover/assist ratio....also invalid because crawfors is not a point guard...and assist/to ratio is a pg stat....another invalid point....who cares about career averages....look at the last 3 years n more importantly this season....crawfords career 14 points has nothing to do with the arguement.....INVALID....marburys free throw attempts / fg attempts will be the same give or take one or two if he playes 25 games, 35 games or 82 games...averages dont fluctuate too high or low from the actual average.....i think ur just tryna find stats that say someone does sumthin better than jamaal....an u have a fellow dickrider with his kibo slice thing, which i find very funny, cuz he is juss as invalid as u.....msg wanna bee's....
and abcd, i remember ur first few posts, u were humble, cool and insightful, now u get the approval of msg, n all of a sudden u disrespectin *****s opinions n ****....lol....b urself homie....stop tryna b sum1 u aint!
my point exactly, abcd u continuously blame crawford....yet ur partner in crime made more sense by saying he blames isiah for alottin jamaal all those minutes....in a physical game, u expect productivity to go down when a coach is forcing u to play 40+ minutes per game and not roatating the lineup efficiently since marbury is out 4 the season.....yeah, its all crawfords fault, he sucks, hes a terrible leader, blame our record on him, cuz he hasnt ever brrn to the finals....ur stupid points contradict themselves....if he sucks and is better as a second or third option, how can u blame him for not carrying the team....thats like saying the cavs got swept because of sasha pavlovic.....
You know who is even worse then Jamal Crawford sometimes? Black Hole. That guy has NO handle, and chucks the ball up. This here is a great example.
*Post of the year potential
Lee is also>>>Crawford
*Nice job by GoknicksDLee postin the Kimbo Slice, making ABCD's victory official.
You bring up different player styles, shooters usually dont take as many free throws as a slasher like Dwayne Wade. Crawford has great ball handling ability, and could very easily attack more and get to the free throw line, where hes a great shooter. Hes the type of player, especially when considering his low 3PT%, who should be lookin to go to the basket more. His soft mentality prevents him from being more efficient on offense. For the MSG33 haters, heres some knowledge without stats. Ignorant mothaf*ckas be claimin my points are 100% stats, not true. Suck a dick bitches.
At least posters like Toons and GetRealistic know how to read. You and EC House Special constantly mis-interpret what others are sayin, sometimes I think you and him only read the first sentence of a post.
Averages dont make a difference if your talkin about a player whos played 24 games and another player whos played 55 games. Thats completely irrelevant, if you were talkin about season totals then it would make a difference. For example:
(These numbers are all made up, just educatin)
Marbury-30 games played, 18ppg, 45fg%
Crawford-55 games played, 20ppg, 40fg%
What difference does the games played make?
No difference, averages are averages. No need to bring up the fact that Marbury hasnt played in a month, the fact is that he gets to the freethrow line more then Crawford does. He also shoots higher percentages.
Jimmy needs to go to a school where they teach common sense.
You brought me into this by mentioning "The Gold Mac 10." Being an elite poster, im not gonna allow a new poster like you to disrespect me. Ive already exposed you for contradicting yourself, the more you say about me the more you get exposed. You can't f*ck with me, everything I said was fair, and necessary. If you got a problem I suggest finding another Knicks forum. F*ck outta here.