Until you read my posts, I don't have nothing to say to you. I never called you delerious, and the fact that you're making up random things that I said proves you don't read anyone's posts. The same thing happened in the Isiah gave his blessing for Gallinari thread. You said that I had opinion, and not fact, meanwhile, if you read my post, you would've seen 3 links that I used as references for what I said.
Farewell Marbury???
- Thread starter lanceroy
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if stephon isnt the best player on this team then tell me who is.
Marbury isnt a team player. he just plays for himself right? then what happened in 06-07? thats why he averaged 8.4 assists in the last 40 games of that year right?
(here do the math if you like) http://www.sportsline.com/nba/players/player/gamelogs/2006/6678
pre-madonna bitch? thats a great thing of you to say about someone thats lost 2 family members in the past year.
good thing you got that dark mask on. if i was you i wouldnt wanna show my face neither.
now lemme quote the gold mac 10 of ko.com when i say this
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Team Starbury is #1. I don't listen to the haters, because they can't compete.
Team Starbury=1992 Olympic NBA Dream Team
Only MJ puts up numbers like team Starbury. Team Starbury puts up double doubles. We average 20 points and 10 assists each, on the basketball court.
lol
Team Starbury=1992 Olympic NBA Dream Team
Only MJ puts up numbers like team Starbury. Team Starbury puts up double doubles. We average 20 points and 10 assists each, on the basketball court.
lol
minus the short shorts lolTeam Starbury=1992 Olympic NBA Dream Team
metrocard
Legend
I would like my anti Marbury protesters to stand up and contradict the facts I presented.
My opinion would be something like
Yeh, I like Marbury's style, he's a NYC type PG, strongest PG in the NBA, absorbs contact as good as anyone.
Fact would be.
Anti-Starbury heads, don't give up.
Come back with information that doesn't favor Marbury and your opinions would look more bold than size 2 font status.
My opinion would be something like
Yeh, I like Marbury's style, he's a NYC type PG, strongest PG in the NBA, absorbs contact as good as anyone.
Fact would be.
Anti-Starbury heads, don't give up.
Come back with information that doesn't favor Marbury and your opinions would look more bold than size 2 font status.
i havent seen one fact from the haters. no links. no nuthin. just biased oppinions that get old after a while, and easier and easier to prove wrong
TunerAddict
Starter
Yeah, I really made that up. Oh, wait, here is proof.
Delerious and delusional are synonyms.
Oh, and on that Gallo thread, you didn't have fact. You had evidence. Fact is something that is proven. You had links to websites that weren't at all reputable, so truthfully, your evidence was piss poor anyway. Like I said there, anyone can put anything on the internet. And even if those sites were put up by ESPN, it still wouldn't make them fact.
But since you have had trouble understanding what is indeed a fact, I have a good source for you here.
Oh, and when you said
that actually means that you do have something to say to me. It is a double negative. What you should have said was that "I don't have ANYTHING to say to you."
I've read your posts. This defense of yours is simply to hide the chinks I've made in your argument.
metrocard
Legend
Once Marbury is gone, there will be a bigger and more pissed off metrocard looking for names and Currysexuals and Crawfordsexuals.
Lets hope so.
I didn't call you delusional as an insult. You actually were being delusional. If what I was saying was untrue, and I was just saying it to put you down, it would be an insult, but in fact, it wasn't. I just said the truth. To think Chis Duhon is capable of being a better leader than Marbury is delusional. That's like saying that Rajan Rondo is a better leader than
Tracy McGrady. Sure, T-Mac has never made it passed the first round, but he's a far better player than Rondo, and most people would prefer to have McGrady on their team over Rondo.
I like your way of thinking. To be honest, I only defend Marbury, because I know that he's a talented point guard and that people are trying to scapegoat him. Isiah Thomas and Jim Dolan get less heat than Marbury, on this site, and they're the ones that actually assembled this team. The way that people hate on Marbury is as if he made all the trades, free agent signings, won all the games, lost all the games, and caused all the drama. I don't think it's true, and I don't think it's fair. Eddy Curry and Quentin Richardson(two starters who make huge contracts for little production and have poor conditioning) get way less heat than Marbury. Meanwhile, Marbury has led the team in scoring and assists in almost every season he's been here.
LJ4ptplay
Starter
The fact that Marbury is "incredibly unpopular with his teammates" is enough reason to get rid of him. This has been a common problem with Marbury. Regardless if Marbury is here or not, this team is not accomplishing anything next year. Why hold onto to someone for one year, if it means nothing and if he pisses his teammates off?
New New York
Quiet Storm
No noone gives more heat to Marbuary than Dolan and Isiah it's just that we all agree that Dolan and Isiah have major blame in all this. "Team Marbaury" seems not to give any recongnition of wrong doing by Steph.
I will say this one last time...When the Knicks made the playoffs all the praise went to Steph and Isiah, not coach Lenny Wilkens, but Stephon Marbaury and Isiah Thomas. Ok fair enough, but what comes with that is full responsibility for losing. If you are the best player on a team in any sport you are held responisible for the Wins and the L's. Not to mention the kid has a bad attitude towards his teamates, coaches, and the press (rightfully so I suppose) and people expect an golden boy image of him painted? No he is not the sole reason for the teams demise, only someone who knows nothing about the game would say that, but it as bass ackwards (you like that!) to say he has nothing to do with the teams downfall. Steph has been a public relations nightmare, and yes that does mean something. Here is the reason why Jamal can get away with chucking up bad shots, and Eddy can get away with a bad work ethic....their coaches and teamates like them! When you claim to be the game's best PG then you better show that you are able to lead your team to victories. Isiah endured early success as GM with the Knicks, as a result he was all over Letterman and ESPN because people believed he had just liberated our franchise, now when the team started losing and his deals started to flop, he caught much wrath from Knick fans. Now he is gone, and left behind is the player who many feel epidomizes his reign, and Steph has to prove that he is not a coach killer, and he must earn the respect of his teamates back to distance himself from Isiah. And could you really blame Donnie Walsh or Dantoni for not wanting to risk that type of turmoil in their first season with the franchise?
th3realicon
Rotation player
Letting Marbury go is not the option. We will pay him regardless. Why not let him earn his money in the last season of his career. If he plays as he knows than great for him. I just don't want to see him play great in his career year and the Knicks give him an Isianesque type of extension.
pat
Starter
Because it is so painful to recognise that you have defended a minority-opinion for so long and with so much effort. And you don't get that on here. I have the feeling as if this is the last reservation of Marbury-fans. But hey: Live and let live.
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lanceroy
Benchwarmer
Wow so much developments in just 24 hours. Personally, like a few others who have posted earlier in this thread, it wouldn't hurt to have a fresh start or inch towards it by getting rid of Marbury. We've been with him for pretty much 5 season already. I think the feeling-out and the testing stage are already done and over with. The team is well aware of the impact of Marbury. He's a scorer and decent point guard, but he just had too much baggage. Way too much for even Walsh and D'Antoni to forego his last season as a Knick. That tells a lot. No need anymore to have another season. Being a great player is not just about having a great career statistic or carrying a team to the playoffs. You need to lead, make your teammates better, or if someone else is the leader, be a good follower. I think in those 5 seasons, we've already had enough to learn of Marbury. And despite all his talent, the Knicks just needed a breath of fresh air. It's not the last move we have to make no doubt. But as a start, it's a HUGE HUGE move. Let's all just move on. We've had losing seasons all those 5 seasons, with one season getting to the playoffs only to get swept. C'mon guys. You all know this will be a positive move for the Knicks. In terms of winning more games - we don't know for sure. But at least the team had a shakeup we sorely needed. I'm surprised he's leaving even before the season, but when the Knicks brass decided on it, you'd have to admit there's something really bad going on internally with the team.
I just hope we get something valuable like draft picks for Marbury.
As for Duhon, he's only here for 2 years. So let's just leave it at that.
I just hope we get something valuable like draft picks for Marbury.
As for Duhon, he's only here for 2 years. So let's just leave it at that.
Toons
is the Bo$$
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Everything that is new, is not good. Isiah was new at a point and time...so was jerome james and jarred and q....larry brown was new also.....i always supported the chris duhon m ove until i found out that he was offered the starting job....that worries me....how can we go to the playoffs with chris duhon as our starting pg?? he is a good backup, nothing more than a good backup defensive point guard and i dont support the move by walsh. Steph would have flourished under the new system, crawford, gallo and q would havve befitted more if marbury would stay. We should allow marbury to play his last season, keep duhon as a backup...rotate them....and rotate crawford and nate....that way, crawford is more efficient, he dosent have to play starting and backup pg and sg all game long, and marbury and duhon can compliment each other. i officially stamp the dduhon pickup a bad move *IF DUHON IS A STARTER* we should stop doing deals with the bulls...it never turns out good 4 us!
Everything that is new, is not good. Isiah was new at a point and time...so was jerome james and jarred and q....larry brown was new also.....i always supported the chris duhon m ove until i found out that he was offered the starting job....that worries me....how can we go to the playoffs with chris duhon as our starting pg?? he is a good backup, nothing more than a good backup defensive point guard and i dont support the move by walsh. Steph would have flourished under the new system, crawford, gallo and q would havve befitted more if marbury would stay. We should allow marbury to play his last season, keep duhon as a backup...rotate them....and rotate crawford and nate....that way, crawford is more efficient, he dosent have to play starting and backup pg and sg all game long, and marbury and duhon can compliment each other. i officially stamp the dduhon pickup a bad move *IF DUHON IS A STARTER* we should stop doing deals with the bulls...it never turns out good 4 us!
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lanceroy
Benchwarmer
No one's expecting us to go to the playoffs this season and next season. That'll be more of a bonus. Throughout the season I see the Knicks making more moves to try to get rid of Curry/Randolph or Lee/Crawford. The next 2 seasons will be like a rebirth for the Knicks. And you have to keep in mind that Duhon's only gonna be here short-term until we draft a high prospect PG in the future draft. Well unless he plays close to an all-star or at least blends well with the system like how Rondo is with the Celtics. And that is something we cannot give a definite answer on right now. As for now I'm just glad that the Knicks are finally having a fresh start.
Fact is Marbury does not deserve 20 mil.
If he was making 10/12 mil, he would have A LOT of value. THere is no GM dumb enough to trade for him this year. TO help the Knicks here is what i want to happen. Start Marbury. Hope he gets 15 pts 7 or 8 assists. THEN, resign him for a more accetable contract (7-10mill) and trade him.
If he was making 10/12 mil, he would have A LOT of value. THere is no GM dumb enough to trade for him this year. TO help the Knicks here is what i want to happen. Start Marbury. Hope he gets 15 pts 7 or 8 assists. THEN, resign him for a more accetable contract (7-10mill) and trade him.