Out of the 16 players, who would you make reserves?

The Knicks have 16 guranteed contracts for the upcoming season and some players that played last year will have to be sidelined in a suit and tie which we refer to as the reserve squad. So my question is who do you think will be on that reserve list....note that only 12 players can be active so 4 have to be reserved. Who do you think?

Knicks roster- http://www.nba.com/knicks/roster/

My opinion what the reserves will be
Reserves: Jerome James, Mardy Collins, Malik Rose, Renaldo Balkman

James- hasnt played decent in years will def be reserved
Collins- even though he averaged 10 ppg and 4 assist per game, he shot a poor 36% in the summer league, i doubt Mike D will give him a spot.
Rose- hasnt impressed anyone in a while will prob be reserved
Balkman- hasnt impressed enough in summer league and with all the SF's he is prob the least productive...note that Jeffries is more valuable because of his height and ability to play from SF to C decently. But it's really a matter of opinion between Jeffries and Balkman because both of their main attributes is their defense, i think Jeffries is more valuable.

I dont agree with Balkman. Although Jeffries is taller and abit more versatile he misses too many easy lay-ups. Balkman may not be offensivly talented, he does not miss as many easy buckets. Also Balkmans attitude impresses me. Hes deffinetly a spark off the bench and aint affraid to throw his body around to retrieve a loose ball. So on that he gets into my squad.

I agree with the rest. Collins hasnt shown enough, James is a waste of space and rose has got nothing.

You're only allowed to have 15 players, I think.

These are not the players who I think will be reserves. These are the players who I want to be reserves:

Jerome James, Eddy Curry, and Malik Rose

You have to be half retarded to honestly believe Jefferies is better and more productive than Balkman because of his height.

Just avoid the embarrassment and say you were wrong. We really don't need to get into this.

metrocard said:

You have to be half retarded to honestly believe Jefferies is better and more productive than Balkman because of his height.

Just avoid the embarrassment and say you were wrong. We really don't need to get into this.

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As i said its a matter of opinion their stats are very much alike, I rated Jeffries over Balkman becuase his height makes a difference and can help at the Center spot were Balkman is limited to SF and PF being only 6'8. Metro, Balkman will never be a star. He is a scrub just like Jeffries but if i had to choose between the two i'd stick with Jeffries. They both are defensive specialist, Balkman is faster but is still only imited to be a Forward were Jeffries can play more positions which makes him more valuable to me Also being that Knicks are full of forwards and have one Center, Curry, who wont survive 15 minutes, a back up Center is extremely needed.

Watch a Knick game.

metrocard said:

Watch a Knick game.

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I do watch Knick games kid and after watching Balkman i have concluded that he is a scrub that is trade bait. I hope he can improve his game one day. By the way who would you make reserves?

you obviously don't if you say Jefferies is better than someone besides Jerome James

jpz17 said:

you obviously don't if you say Jefferies is better than someone besides Jerome James

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i gave my reasons, as i said matter of opinion

no matter of facts, get it right son, start paying attention

jpz17 said:

no matter of facts, get it right son, start paying attention

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look at the Knicks stats if u want facts Balkman and Jeffries both dont impress shyt...and their stats are very much alike. And their pretty much the same player, only difference really is that Balkman is faster and Jeffries is taller. You make your choice, wuts ur 4 reserves anyway?

Paul1355 said:

I do watch Knick games kid and after watching Balkman i have concluded that he is a scrub that is trade bait. I hope he can improve his game one day. By the way who would you make reserves?

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You're blind.

Balkman is one of the primary guys who pushes the ball up tempo, rebounds at an elite rate and is our best perimeter defender and help defender.

You need to watch more games for you to understand that.

Whenever Balkman came off the bench, his presence and energy was felt; similar to Varejao on the Cavs.

Balkman offensively is limited, but defensively he creates his offense.
Balkman is a good asset on this team.

Where as Jefferies is larthargic and robotic in movement.
He's a 6"10 guy with no position, not much talent and limited skills.
He isn't good at anything, and he wasn't even good defensively for the majority of his time on the Knicks(too slow to stay infront of guys, too weak to post defense)

Jefferies has been one of the worst Knicks behind Malik Rose.
Balkman atleast provided sparks and flashes.

I'm really disappointed with this thread and post overall.

We need Balk, he's a team player and loves to defend and rebound. You won't find a lot of that on this team.
Plus his contract isn't big and ugly as Jefferies.

I see no logical reason to have Balk over JJ except "size"...wtf Jefferies is 2 inches taller than Balkman and suddenly becomes better?
LOL?

metrocard said:

You're blind.

Balkman is one of the primary guys who pushes the ball up tempo, rebounds at an elite rate and is our best perimeter defender and help defender.

You need to watch more games for you to understand that.

Whenever Balkman came off the bench, his presence and energy was felt; similar to Varejao on the Cavs.

Balkman offensively is limited, but defensively he creates his offense.
Balkman is a good asset on this team.

Where as Jefferies is larthargic and robotic in movement.
He's a 6"10 guy with no position, not much talent and limited skills.
He isn't good at anything, and he wasn't even good defensively for the majority of his time on the Knicks(too slow to stay infront of guys, too weak to post defense)

Jefferies has been one of the worst Knicks behind Malik Rose.
Balkman atleast provided sparks and flashes.

I'm really disappointed with this thread and post overall.

We need Balk, he's a team player and loves to defend and rebound. You won't find a lot of that on this team.
Plus his contract isn't big and ugly as Jefferies.

I see no logical reason to have Balk over JJ except "size"...wtf Jefferies is 2 inches taller than Balkman and suddenly becomes better?
LOL?

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Being the situation a 6'8 guy is not a need and he cant help at the Center spot which is the main reason i said this. and this thread wasnt to talk about what i thought, it was the reserves that u thought they would be so by saying ur dissapointed in this thread is simply becuase u didnt even answer the question to why this thread was made. If you think Balkman being young, ahtletic, and full of energy is more imporant than i understand that.

I just think you're putting too much money into "height" with guys like Robinson and Balkman, when they play bigger than their actual height.

Height is so overrated these days. Kobe is really 6"4 in reality, but is the best player in the NBA today.

they both sux..

Bull****!

:barf:Naaahhhh! Don't understand me wrong, but I think none of You have watched the Knicks games carefully! You cannot compete these two players! Balkman played only few minutes per game under IT and he was impressive anyway! Jeffries played alot more and was just a shadow of himself, running from basket from basket doing nothing! Balkman is definitely not an offensive player, but his role on the team is to run the court, give the energy, rebound, play d and give garbage points! A think that he could be very productive next season if he starts alongside Duhon (or Marbury if he'll play at 100%), Crawford, Lee at 4 and someone at centre who can really run the court (we don't have anyone yet hehe). Or Gallinari at 4, Lee starting at 5! Everyone knows that D'Antoni prefers that type of system and this is the best starting five at this time of our roster! I know Chandler has his shooting talent, but I'd played him as an backup at 3 or even 4. The Knicks should get rid of Q-Rich (because of his back problems), Jeffries (too much money), Curry (won't fit), Zach (won't fit), James (everyone knows why)! Give some minutes to Nate (try him at point & 2-guard), Roberson & Mardy! And the only thing the Knicks are missing right now to achieve an success is a player that will fill the void at C like: Marcus Camby, A. Biedrins, Dampier, Gooden or Haslem!

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Reason

If anyone will have some doubts, here is the reason why I believe this is our best starting five:

Duhon - sees the court well, can play up tempo game, shoots less, can have 6-7 ast per game

Jamal - play's bad defensive, but he was giving his heart every game last season trying not to embrass the Knicks more, he can score, he can run the court, he can play one on one, he is our best offensive guy and he can can pass the ball if there's someone on good position

Balkman - plays d, run the court, he can do all the dirty work, he is everywhere on the court, nice shot blocker, good rebounder, can finish fast breaks

Gallianiari - has a nice touch shot, so I think he can shoot pretty well, he's tall, can play outside, so he will be tough to stop by a slower guys at 4

Lee - Another hard worker after Balkman, can play d, runs the court well, shoots very good, rebounds perfect, plays with his heart & mind!

metrocard said:

I just think you're putting too much money into "height" with guys like Robinson and Balkman, when they play bigger than their actual height.

Height is so overrated these days. Kobe is really 6"4 in reality, but is the best player in the NBA today.

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I mentioned Robinson because 5'9 and for example 6'5 is a huge difference and Kobe is 6'6 according to espn. Maybe height is overrated considering Balkman's leaping ability but being that Jeffries is 30 pounds heavier he can handle stronger guys in the post along with being 6'11 so thats how i look at it but honestly bottom line it really doesnt matter becuase i doubt those two will get nearly as much playing time as last year.

The_Phantom said:

If anyone will have some doubts, here is the reason why I believe this is our best starting five:

Duhon - sees the court well, can play up tempo game, shoots less, can have 6-7 ast per game

Jamal - play's bad defensive, but he was giving his heart every game last season trying not to embrass the Knicks more, he can score, he can run the court, he can play one on one, he is our best offensive guy and he can can pass the ball if there's someone on good position

Balkman - plays d, run the court, he can do all the dirty work, he is everywhere on the court, nice shot blocker, good rebounder, can finish fast breaks

Gallianiari - has a nice touch shot, so I think he can shoot pretty well, he's tall, can play outside, so he will be tough to stop by a slower guys at 4

Lee - Another hard worker after Balkman, can play d, runs the court well, shoots very good, rebounds perfect, plays with his heart & mind!

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First off i absolutely do not understand starting Balkman over Q Rich or especially Wilson Chandler at the 3. Your starting 5 is very athletic, ill give you that, but you forgot to mention that this team will get killed physically. Jamal, Balkman, Gallinari and Lee cant handle powerful basketball players and many NBA players these days are very powerful and and physical and theyll take advantage of the Knicks with your starting 5. Also Gallo cant start after you saw one game of him in a summer league game...i think your too high on rookies, personally speaking. Duhon might start at PG because Walt Frazier said its possible...but your still benching your most talented veteran in Stephon. Jamal is acceptable since he is the only SG. Yes Balkman plays D, but look at Wilson Chandler, this guy blocks a shot every game...he is extremely athletic, finishes most of the time unlike Balkman, and can score unlike Balkman. And Chandler can really score you dont have to be a basketball gurue to figure out Chandler has a promising future in the NBA, and benching him most of the year last year was a big mistake by Isiah. You saw at the end of the season he started really coming around both on offense and defense. No way i'd even start Balkman over Q Rich being that Q still averaged more points on the offense and he is a decent defender with power. Plus Q lost wait so he is faster now and with Mike D he should get his shot back, hopefully. I dont hate Balkman just that a guy that is a defensive/athletic bench player should stay on the bench and come when our team is really hurting on transition D, thats the only reason i see him playing. Now onto Lee, his rebounding is perfect for any post position but ther's a difference between Center and PF, he will get pushed around being a Center and we know his defense isnt solid so a team with a decent center will pass to their guy all day, and post up Lee. Lee is a solid PF...and i still feel Zach is more productive even though he's a jock. He can rebound as good as Lee and score better. If anything put them side by side so we can dominate the boards.
My starting 5 and depth chart
Marbury/Duhon/Nate/Roberson
Crawford/Marbury
Chandler/Q Rich/Gallo
Lee/Gallo/Jeffries
Zach/Curry/Jeffries

Every player of this four that You've mentioned unfortunately loves to keep the ball in his hands (Zach, Crawford, Steph & Chandler) Together they will not play an run-and-gun basketball system, because they will dribble the ball too much and give unconsidered shots which honestly we don't need! I can agree that healthy Q-Rich can me more useful than Balkman or Chandler, but IT never gave Balkman any chance to prove that he can do alot more playing like 30 minutes in a game. What success do the Knicks had last season playing with Nate, Crawford, Q-Rich, Curry and Zach? None! Loss after loss! So don't tell me this is our best starting five, when they already played together, even with Marbury and that was just a big piece of crap!!! I can also agree that it's hard to tell anything about the Dan-G, but when they drafted him with nr 6 pick, they had to have some reasons! Lee is tough, so he can handle power forwards like Duncan, KG, Gasol etc. But when it comes to Howard, Shaq, Amare then You can play Curry and Lee at the court! Phoenix played with a small starting line too and they where in playoffs every year! Just look back and try to remember - Nash, Johnson, Q-Rich, Marion & Amare? Is Nash or Joe Johnson a muscle titan? Marion? He is just a run-and-gun player, who was running for the fast breaks that Nash created! Crawford can be a shooter like Joe Johnson, Balkman or Chandler can be someone like Marion and Lee just have to be himself. He was doing great job, playing as a bench player, adding 10 p.p.g & 10reb r.p.g!

Try something else before saying it won't work, Marbury can be our starting point if he plays smart, with head, if he listens to the coach and keep the tactics and system, but if not he'll just have to be a backup for Duhon or Crawford. Give young guys the opportunity to show themselves, give more minutes to Balkman, Chandler, Galli, Duhon, Lee, even Mardy or Roberson. They will show You what they've got!!! Your conception is a bullshit, it will give You the same result as if You'd play starting with Jerome, Malik, Jeffriess, F.Jones & Starburned! Get rid of overpaid players, keep the fresh, young talents, they'll play with heart to improve they are worth more than people think....

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