Did you read my post? I said name 1 Specific prediction that says the United States, not Israel, is going to get attacked by Iran. There's nothing in the Bible that says that the United States is going to get attacked. You also failed to find a part of the Bible that says the West is vulnerable. You said that Iran hates the U.S., but you fail to mention that so does most of the other countries in the world. The U.S. has tons of money, technology, allies, and protection. Look up Defense Support Program. Wikipedia does a good job of explaining it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Support_Program
Those 4 reasons are why Iran and most other countries that hate the U.S. won't attack the U.S.
The Bible, based on what you wrote, predicts that Iran is going to attack Israel, not the United States. You also said that Magog is Russia. Correction, Magog is western Russia. The map of the Bible doesn't show any part of eastern Russia.
1)Your list of predictions are highly flawed. I read the Ezekiel chapter on my own, and it also predicts that the great army will be riding on horses. Do people still use horses for war? No
15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
16 And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
2) Your prediction also says that the countries will cover Israel as a cloud over the land. That's claiming that all the middle eastern countries will send their armies inside Israel, to the point where they completely fill the land with troops. Have we seen this? No. You can exaggerate recent wars to make it seem like this, but that hasn't happened in reality. Israel even went into Egypt, to try and take the Suez Canal, in the Suez Canal crisis. That doesn't sound like a country that's getting swarmed to me.
18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.
3) The Bible also says that God will be angry. Is there proof that God is currently angry? No. You can make up that he's angry, but nobody sees him angry or knows for a fact that he's angry.
4) The Bible also says that God will send a fire on Western Russia(Magog)
Has God set Russia on fire yet? No.
Chapter 39
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
The predictions may be real(I don't think they are) but even if that's so, the predictions are highly flawed, as you can see from the above quotes.
Okay here's my answer, the Bible does not mention the United States in any text, why is this? Maybe because this country will not be around when these events of the Battle of Gog and Magog will occur, have you thought of it that way? How else would all the Arab nations attack Israel? They have to get rid of the U.S.A first, it's there only way because we supply them with military equipment and have a strong alliance with them. And we are a superpower. You know that every superpower in history hasn't lasted forever. The Egyptian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, The Greeks, The Roman Empire, Alexander the Great's empire, The Persian Empire, etc the list goes on...are they still super powers? Are they even in existence? Some as small countries from descendants of the people back in the day yes, but nothing more. What gives you any idea that the same can't happen to the U.S.A??? History shows from former super powers that the The United States has the same fate. Once this country falls or is weak, the attack on Israel, the prophecy in the Bible in Ezekial chapter 38-39, will happen.
I then mentioned the vulnerability of the U.S.A, I used historical proof outside of the Bible, if anything being a non-believer of the Bible I thought that would capture your attention the most, i guess it didn't. In my long post before I talked about the 1998 commission formed to show the possibility of a third world country such as Iran having the capability to attack the U.S with long range missiles. The report showed that it would only take a 5 year process for Iran to acquire such weapons, and that the United States Intel would have no knowledge of this being completed. So if Iran has long range missiles, building Nuclear weapons using Nuclear facilities funded by Russia, an overall hatred towards America and Israel, Also a country headed by a Radical Islamic Regime that call for Jihad or a Holy War,BELIEVE ALLAH WANTS THE U.S.A AND ISRAEL DESTROYED BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE THEIR JIHAD COMPLETE what gives you any idea that they won't attack the U.S.A??? It's a matter of time, ABCD. And I suggest you look into the Military Alliance of Iran and Russia, Iran's Nuclear program, and the belief of President Ahmadinejad. It all points to an attack of Israel and any ally with Israel because the Koran states that any friend of the Jews is an enemy and will get the same fate as the Jews, which is death. And being Radical Islamist and basing their belief around Jihad, a war is inevitable.
Now what I bolded is your answer to my story about Gog and Magog. Thanks for being more specific, but you did not realizing something I said recently that you overlooked or didn't read. I explained the history of why Magog is Russia. You say that the Bible doesn't talk about Russia nor does it even have Russia in the Biblical Map. Is the word Iran in the Biblical Map???? NO, because Iran was once called Persia, which IS IN THE BIBLICAL MAP. So therefore, Persia=Iran. Now onto Russia. I explained that The Magogites, the people of Magog, are the people who the Greeks called Scythians. These are the people group who settled North of the Black and the Caspian Sea in what we now call Russia and the former Soviet Republics. If you look at your own map in the North there is an area called Scythians Ashchenaz, this is now present day Russia along with Magog. And in the Bible it is described as the "uttermost part of the North" which shows that Russia is the only solution. Now how else would Russian troops travel to Israel? From the Western area of Russia going South, correct? So if Magog(Western Russia) is one of the areas attacking Israel, then it is all of Russia attacking Israel from the North and traveling South to Israel. Russia is not split into an East or West, it is a whole. And it will be a land attack as mentioned in Daniel 11:40. Thank you for proving my point, do you see now what I am talking about?
Onto your 4 reasons....
Your first reason talks about how horses and the equipment described by the enemy forces are things not used today. That is correct but if you have read stories of the Bible many visual representations may actually be represented differently to the human eye. For example in the end times the Anti-Christ is said to be a Beast that deceives the world into loving him. Well we know that a Beast with fangs, red eyes, spiky hair, claws etc would scare the hell out of the world and the entire story of the Anti-Christ would be false because of it's visual representation. By saying Beast, it means someone who is as cunning and deadly as a Beast therefore the visual representation will present itself in a human like form. Now with the the visual representation of the horses...being that horses were a main form of military transportation back in the day the Bible was written, we can assume that the visions described in Ezekiel 38 are of the modern day military transportation. This can turn out being military vehicles such as Tanks, Hummers with machine guns, etc. There were also visions of "birds with crowns", this can easily be a helicopter with the crown being the propeller, and the bird being the body of the helicopter, and the wings being a machine gun or missile launcher attachment. So you see how visual representations in the Bible can mean something different in modern times. The answer to the horses and equipment is still debated and many scholars have their own theory on the topic. For the most part the conclusion is that it is a visual representation of an overwhelming amount of military personal, equipment and transportation that will come like a cloud to cover the land.
Your second reason talks about that there has never been a time when all of the Arab nations have filled Israel with troops, I know this hasn't happened yet. This is a prophecy waiting to be full-filled, my friend. I am showing you events as of right now that will prompt this event to happen, it's up to you whether you want to look into it, if you ignore what I am telling you then there is no point in having this discussion. You should not argue with me on end time events when you believe that they were all meant to happen already. All of Revelation and parts of Ezekial, which discuss the end times, is still yet to occur. This is why many people who debate on the Bible should study it before they argue about it, for the Bible states they will look like fools.
Your third reason, you ask if God is currently angry. When these events occur such as Gog and Magog, God will show his Wrath not anger by destroying the invading enemy army and defending Israel. During the Tribulation period and all of Revelation is Jesus revealing himself to the Jews. The Wrath of God will be on all non-believers because God gives man every opportunity to be saved through Jesus, and they will still reject him as the Messiah.
Your fourth reason about God setting Russia(Magog) on fire, you have to understand the these are visions that will happen in the very near future. Due to the fact that it hasn't happened yet doesn't make it a false prophecy. And so you know in your reasoning you put Gog as Russia, wrong, Gog is a ruler or dictator and the phrase "Gog of Magog" means Ruler of Russia.
Conclusion, I do have more specific information on the Battle of Gog and Magog and actually a time line in chronological order of what events will occur, why, and how. My source of information is the Bible, Joel C. Rosenberg, former political officials, and Dr. H.L. Wilmington who have all talked about the end time prophecy and how it is happening in the world today.
