should the Knicks trade for STAT now?

quiggle said:

what about keeping Lee and offering Chandler?

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metrocard said:

Bosh takes too many jumpshots. We need an inside presence. Bosh doesn't block, his defense is weak, offensively, he's not that DYNAMIC.

Bosh is overrated.
Amare isn't really all that either...but he's better than most, I would take him over BOSH because Amare can do it effectively IN THE PAINT...plus he has a jumpshot too.

I really like Greg MONROE...but I doubt we can get him.

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richtree said:

Personally I think Chandler is looking more and more like the odd man out...

Its Obvious that we are going to look to get a Legit big man either in trade or in the free agent class of 2010

Dannio is cheap , pretty good, young, a crowd favorite, and most importantly Mikey's guy.

If we keep Lee I think Chandler will have to go.

Also, the Suns like defensive minded players that can knock down the jumper, IE Chandler.

I think if we send Chandler, Nate, Pick for Amare and Barbosa that would be fine with me.

I didni't check out the numbers but just in theory this is probably what would happen.

Amare fits well in this system and is one of the best talents in the league.

duhon
Wade
Dannio
Amare
Lee



Mikey will keep

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Red said:

^^^^^
What did that mean?

I'm all for it, but to be honest if Kerr did this deal I would make sure he hasn't been hangin' with Mr. Phelps if you know what I mean :smokin::smokin:

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Toons said:

Chris Bosh

Takes too many jumpshots....yet shoots 50% from the field.
Bosh doesn't block.... But averages a block per game
His defense is weak....But he steals, he is quick, he is long and aggressive defensively
He is not offensively dynamic....but is #1 in the nba in free throws made
Olympian, Leader, Class Act, Intelligent.....
Overrated? I think not

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metrocard said:

Bosh is a career 48% FG shooter...stop inflating STATS.

Bosh is shooting 49% not 50%.
Bosh is averaging .9 blk per game not 1 block per game. Keep in mind he's playing 38 minutes per game.
Steals doesn't equate a great man to man defender, Bosh is poor.
Leader? What has Chris Bosh ever lead? You're sucking this dude more than Crawford.
I guess you have a thing for thin skinny black dudes.
Intelligent? LMAO...Class Act? You're mad random, you might as well call him a sexy beast.

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Perhaps signaling a willingness to dismantle their roster, the Phoenix Suns have begun exchanging trade proposals with teams for All-Star forward Amare Stoudemire, league executives told Yahoo! Sports on Thursday.
With dysfunction and dissension reigning within the Suns, rival front-office executives believe general manager Steve Kerr is determined to move Stoudemire and others before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.
While Stoudemire, 26, is the Suns? most valuable asset, sources say Kerr has told teams that he?s willing to trade anyone on his roster except for point guard Steve Nash.

?Everyone is on the table but Nash,? one executive said.
Phoenix owner Robert Sarver has been more reluctant to part with Stoudemire and still hasn?t yet given his blessing to act on a Stoudemire proposal. Nevertheless, most believe that Sarver will inevitably do so.
While there will likely be some interest in a rejuvenated Shaquille O?Neal, it is Stoudemire, the enigmatic 6-foot-10, 250-pound forward, whom most NBA teams have an interest in acquiring.
If Kerr and assistant GM David Griffin do trade Stoudemire, a four-time All-Star, they want a combination of expiring contracts, a talented young player ? preferably a forward ? and draft picks. Stoudemire is expected to opt out of his contract for the historic free-agent summer of 2010. He makes $15 million this season and $16.3 million next season. His relationship with Suns management has steadily deteriorated and few expect that either side is interested in a contract extension.
Phoenix made the biggest move of the trade deadline a year ago, trading Shawn Marion for Shaquille O?Neal in a deal that the Suns believed could help them overtake the San Antonio Spurs and Los Angeles Lakers in the Western Conference. Yet, the Suns lost to the Spurs in the first round of the playoffs, which turned into a prelude to an acrimonious exit with coach Mike D?Antoni.
This season, Phoenix has struggled to a 26-21 record, which leaves them tied for the final playoff spot in the Western Conference. The Suns were blown out Wednesday night in Golden State, 124-112.
With O?Neal clogging the middle, Stoudemire has expressed frustration with a diminished offensive role. Stoudemire still flusters his GM and coach because of an unwillingness to commit to anything but scoring. Stoudemire?s scoring and rebounding averages have dropped this season, and he recently told Yahoo! Sports that he was struggling with an offense that features fewer pick-and-rolls for him, fewer touches in the low post.
?It is harder,? Stoudemire said. ?When you?re in the flow, everything flows. When you?re not, sometimes it?s hard to get involved.?
After the loss to Golden State, Stoudemire told reporters, ?To keep losing these games the way we are, it?s not fun. I?m not used to it. It?s almost against my religion.?
Sources believe the Suns are more apt to shop Stoudemire to the Eastern Conference, where Toronto and New York are natural possibilities. Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo drafted Stoudemire for the Suns, and Knicks coach Mike D?Antoni helped turn him into an All-Star. Still, the acrimonious nature of Colangelo?s and D?Antoni?s departures could lessen Phoenix management?s willingness to deal with them.
Nevertheless, Phoenix promises once more to be at the center of the league?s biggest trade talks leading up to the deadline.

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quiggle said:

forget about signing him in 2010 and try to get him now since him and the Suns look like they're going in opposite directions?

"Amar’e Stoudemire seems to be sun burned. He’s had to accept a complete change in style of play because of Shaquille O’Neal, and because of the system Terry Porter wants to run in order to placate Shaq’s abilities.

Simply put, the Suns want to run their offense through somebody who’s going to retire in two years.

Can you understand why Amar’e would have a beef?

Fast forward to January 09, with former Suns coach Mike D’Antoni now coaching the Knicks. Chris Duhon and David Lee working beautifully in the pick and roll. A position Stoudemire remembers as being on the receiving of Steve Nash passes.

Amar’e had his own synergy with one of the best passers of this generation, but then had to accept a bogged down offense with the arrival of Shaquille O’Neal. A player who sits on the second half of back-to-backs, making it increasingly difficult to develop a good re pour.

STAT would have this to say about the Suns new style of play..

""I’m not sure we have the confidence that we used to have, knowing that teams are afraid of us," Stoudemire said. "I don’t think that confidence is there anymore."

Such a vote of confidence for his team right?

Well what if the problems go both ways? Who says the Suns are so elated with STAT?

Terry Porter slowed down the offense in an effort to help give up less easy baskets. But it doesn’t help if one of your core players isn’t buying into the defensive philosophy. Especially if the name "Stoudemire" is on the back of the jersey, somebody who has the gift of athleticism and size.

All this being said, the Suns organization is none too pleased.

Could Steve Kerr be planning a Stoudemire exile? Trading the 26- year-old freak of nature with the aspirations of building around two players both in their mid-to-late thirties.

If a deal came along for the right young player, along with picks and cap flexibility, then who knows. Stoudemire could be out of Phoenix before the trade deadline.

When it comes down to it, Amar’e has a amazing skill set for a player his size. Phoenix may be thinking of a breakup, but other teams around the league would kill for Amar’e Stoudemire."

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OGKnickfan said:

I think what we needed was Gasol, as I've said in the past, back when he was on the market and Isiah said that Curry was untouchable. Now, we lost two games that could have been won, had we had a strong inside presence, not to mention two seasons where, in my opinion, had we had Gasol, we would have been contenders.

Even if we had just drafted Brook Lopez, we would have at least won one of these games. Bottom line is that we need an old school, tough, long big man, who can rebound and intimidate. I don't know enough about Amare's game to say whether he would be that. I do know, however, that David Lee and Harrington, as good as they are, are not capable of providing this, as evidenced by the past few games.

Anyway, if we're going to compete for the eighth or seventh seed, and then give ourselves a chance to win a game or two in the playoffs, we better try to make a move for a big man, fast! This is not 1999, as some guy stated in his thread, we do not have Patrick Ewing waiting in the wings, and we do not have superstars, like Sprewell and Houston on our roster.

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Red said:

"If Kerr and assistant GM David Griffin do trade Stoudemire, a four-time All-Star, they want a combination of expiring contracts, a talented young player – preferably a forward – and draft picks. Stoudemire is expected to opt out of his contract for the historic free-agent summer of 2010. He makes $15 million this season and $16.3 million next season"

Chandler, Lee, Our 1st, Curry? Does that work?

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