Obviously nobody's proven on an NBA level but Rubio's as close as you can come to being proven on an NBA level given that he's been playing in tougher competition than his fellow draftees for four years
nah..its not like Rubio was putting up superstar numbers over there in Europe. He just didn't embarrass himself which is pretty impressive for a guy 5-10 years younger than most of the other players.
Even if he did embarrass himself and do absolutely nothing there like Brandon Jennings he would still be a top 10 pick..which is why playing in Europe is kind of misleading because stats don't really mean anything. Everyone expects the 18, 19 year old to do nothing and anything they do its like wow an 18 year old got 10 pts in a game in a much more advanced league
Still, everything is all about projection on Rubio and Jennings..no guarantees. The reason why scouts love them and especially Rubio is because they should have an easier time adjusting to the NBA having competed in a league superior to NCAA. Its a good enough reason for me..I'd love to get Rubio..but not enough to trade the world and center the franchise around him.
RUBIO RUBIO RUBIO RUBIO, 4 real i doubt he'll "fall to our laps" but i hope walsh is trying to make deals to move up. i wudnt mind trading any1 but gallo to make a package that cud entice a team to give us a higher draft pick
Just as the notion of Ricky Rubio in a Kings uniform is seeming less likely by the day, there is this unsurprising news: he is moving on.
A source with knowledge of the situation said Rubio was visited in Los Angeles today by the Oklahoma City Thunder, who have the No. 3 pick in the June 25 draft. This matters mostly because Rubio's visit in Sacramento this week came with unspoken terms, an understanding of sorts that a Rubio promise on the Kings' part could have stopped his American tour with just one concert. But that clearly never happened, and certainly not only because Rubio was unable to get on the floor Thursday when he fell ill.
So he continues to interview away, certainly hoping to not fall below the fourth spot if only because that $6.6 million buyout has to be paid for somehow. There has been talk of a second Sacramento visit, but I'm not sure that's plausible now since he is believed to be headed back to Spain on Sunday. - Sam Amick, SacBee
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Like the opening post said, though, I don't see the Thunder taking Rubio when they already have a well-established point guard in Russell Westbrook. They're better off getting improvement at the shooting guard position, and it works out well for them cause they can just pick James Harden.
There's also the fact that Rubio wants to play in a big market, and what bigger market is there than NY? Other teams would have trouble getting him endorsements that pay him enough for the 6.6 million dollars he needs for his buyout, but if he's in New York, that won't be a problem...
Nice to see you're not in denial about it anymore abcd
and what point are you trying to make..I just said he wasn't a superstar and you said there are no superstars in Europe..so you just agreed with me.
My point was towards the ones that talk as if he was a superstar over there when in realty he was just not embarrassing himself.
You obviously failed to understand you don't need superstar numbers in Europe...the numbers Rubio produced in Europe are legendary itself for such a young player...especially in a league where they favor experience over talent.
Guys like Gasol didn't even make the professional league till their 18...Rubio did it at 14 and produced some really awesome numbers and won defensive player of the year.
* Won 3 Catalan National Leagues (2005, 2007, 2008)
* Won the FIBA EuroCup Championship (2006)
* Led the Spanish ACB League in steals (2007, 2009)
* Won the Spanish ACB League Rising Star Award (2007)
* 2-Time FIBA European Young Player of the Year (2007, 2008)
* Won the Spanish King's Cup (2008)
* Won the ULEB Cup Championship (2008)
* All-Spanish ACB League Team (2008)
* Voted the Spanish ACB League's Best Point Guard (2008)
* Mr. Europa European Player of the Year (2008)
* Led the Spanish ACB League in assists (2009)
* Spanish ACB League Defensive Player of the Year (2009)
You can't say that about many 18 year olds in the world.
Especially since the ACB has improved every season, compared to 10 years ago.
Gasol averaged 11.3 points and 5.2 rebounds in just under 24 minutes per game...for FC Barcelona in the year he got drafted #3 overall to the Atlanta Hawks.
Are those superstar numbers?
Are you a dumbass?
My point is proven...you dont need to average superstar numbers(no such thing) to be successful in the NBA.
Calderon's number in Europe are similar to Charlie Bell in the NBA...but Calderon still manages to put up all star type numbers in the NBA league.
Do your research homie.
my point was to look past stats and see that by just competing at his age was impressive enough. So everything you said to try and defend Rubio proved nothing. We all know he is a once in a generation PG prospect..but it has nothing to do with his stats over there. He could have put up Brandon Jennings #s and still be the #2 pick in the draft.
I probably value and want Rubio as much as you do just don't think its realistic.
Its ok, I understand you may be stressed out and confused with fathers day just passing. I'll forgive you for your overreaction.