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    Default Fox Sports Charlie Rosen on the NYK

    Says we should dump Hughes, Nate, Curry and Darko and the Knicks are not as bad as their record. I agree with him, the core of Lee, Harrington, Chandler, Gallo, Duhon and Jeffries (can't believe i wrote that) should win you a few games. If Rosen is right, maybe Donnie doesn't need to hit the home run by signing LBJ, Dwade or Bosh. Not a big fan of Bosh any way, Toronto has struggled with him despite his #s.

    Maybe the thing to do is fine tune the team, resign the core of the team, get a big man like Brad Miller or Gortat and a decent PG ie TJ Ford or DJ Augustin and maybe we start winning. Donnie can worry about rings after the Knicks start winning.

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    Even though the Home-standing Hornets played a lackluster game, the Knicks' fourth straight win was very impressive.

    However, it's universally agreed New York's front office is already looking past this season and is betting its future on being able to sign at least one top-flight free agent next summer. If this is indeed the case, which if any of the current Knicks are keepers? And which are losers?

    Al Harrington is a point-maker deluxe. He has great range 4-for-7 from out there and he sports a wide variety of drives and pull-ups. What he can't do is pass 0 assists, 3 turnovers play defense and make good decisions in the clutch. Despite his shoot-first-and-never-ask-questions (or because of this), Harrington could easily be a dynamic go-to scorer off the bench for a competitive club. However, getting him to accept such a "diminished" role would take a lot of doing.

    Depending on his attitude and the specifics of whatever roster changes are made in the offseason, Harrington is a keeper.

    Chris Duhon celebrated his return to his home state by playing superb game 7-for-11 (including 6-for-8 treys), 8 assists, nary a turnover and 22 points. Last season, Duhon simply wore out both physically and mentally, but he does seem to be totally energized so far this year. The key to his effectiveness in any given game, however, is his shooting when he hits his jumpers, he doesn't miss much else. True, he has also been somewhat inconsistent, but if Mike D'Antoni can limit his playing time, then Duhon is a more than adequate point guard.

    If a high-quality backup can be obtained, and Duhon's minutes can therefore be limited to about 25 to 30 minutes per game, then he's a keeper.

    David Lee was given almost as many isolation opportunities eight for 9 points as Harrington nine for 6 points. Lee can drive and reverse field in either direction, run the court, make nifty passes from the high post and he also scored three buckets on screen rolls. He works hard on defense, showing marked improvement in his understanding and his footwork so that he has become an adequate defender. Unfortunately, although he's power-forward sized 6-9, 250 Lee often goes head-to-head with opposing centers. Indeed, Emeka Okafor destroyed him in the low post, but for some reason Okafor played only 20 minutes.

    Lee's specialty, of course, is rebounding 14 rebounds, 17 points which is enough for him to function as a valuable role player on a team that has a high-scoring center. Given that the Knicks can lure one of these rare specimens to NYC and that Lee's agent doesn't price him out of the market, Lee is a keeper.

    Jared Jeffries is the team's only quality post defender. The bonus is that he can also occasionally drop 3-balls. Would be best used as the fourth big in a four-man rotation, also making him a keeper.

    Wilson Chandler can shoot, drive and jump to the moon. He's not really an iso-type scorer, but needs to have space, time and lanes created by ball and player movement. Nevertheless, he's an explosive scorer 10-for-15 for 20 points.

    Chandler is a better defender when arriving on the scene in a help situation than he is playing man-to-man defense. On several occasions, he went under high screen/rolls and paid the price when his man dropped long-range jumpers. Chandler was also guilty of repeatedly turning his head and of getting faked off his feet beyond the foul line.

    But he's only 22 years old and still learning the game. In any case, Chandler has the tools to develop into a 20 per game scorer. Definitely a keeper.

    Danilo Gallinari has incredible range and a quick trigger. His shortcomings are shot selection, a slow initiatory dribble when he attacks the basket and a tendency to get lost when playing weak-side defense. On the other hand, he does have quick hands and good instincts on the defensive end. Give him another two seasons and Gallinari could easily become a much better player and shooter than Peja Stojakovic was in his prime.

    Another keeper.

    Larry Hughes registered 7 assists, mainly because his teammates shot the lights out 55.1 percent, including 13-for-25 from downtown. But he also showed poor discretion in his own choice of shots 3-for-10, including five forced jumpers. His defense was always overrated, based as it was on his continued gambling.

    The best that can be said for Hughes is that, more often than not, he keeps both teams in the games.

    A loser.

    Eddy Curry's primary value is to stay healthy and show enough on the court to induce another sucker er, team to propose a trade that would be acceptable to the Knicks. In other words, any offer won't be refused.

    Is and always was a loser.

    Nate Robinson has been on the bench during the Knicks' mini-streak, proving he's much more valuable as a cheerleader than as a player. For sure, he's a cute little fellow and Knicks fans adore underdogs but his rampant immaturity makes him a loser.

    Darko Milicic wants to take his ball and go home, and the Knicks should oblige this loser.

    Toney Douglas is supposed to be a good defender. And, in fact, nobody scores against him when he's glued to the bench. On the basis of his potential, he's a keeper.

    Jordan Hill is a keeper, only because the Knicks would be too embarrassed to get rid of their first-round draft pick so quickly. In any case, Hill is a long-term project.

    Marcus Landry shows some promise as being a dead-eye three-point shooter. Or maybe not. Somebody has to be the last man on the bench, and it might as well be him.

    Overall, the Knicks played with much more urgency than did the moribund Hornets. New York did have some stretches where it stood around on offense particularly when Harrington had the ball and could see the basket but when the Knicks all got involved, their offense usually generated good shots.

    Their post-up game was virtually nonexistent six of these for 4 points and most of their scoring came from mid- and long-range jumpers and fast breaks. The fact that they shot only 15 free throws (to the Hornets' 25) demonstrated how seldom they were able to drive the ball into the paint.

    In addition to various isos, the Knicks offense consisted mostly of screen/rolls, handoffs and weaves and a guard or wing making a dive cut, then popping out behind a high screen. With no post-up game, the middle was usually open.

    They clustered around ball-penetration on defense to good effect and were helped by the Hornets' poor shot selection 40.5 percent. However, the Knicks were often outsized in the low post, and their screen/roll defense was frequently confused with both defenders choosing to guard the ball-handler and leaving the roller unattended.

    But their energy was sufficient to overwhelm the listless Hornets.

    So, the Knicks are not quite as bad as many critics including me have previously believed. If they can keep the ball moving and consistently shoot a high percentage, they can be a very dangerous club. Consistency is the key word here.

    If they can somehow obtain the services of an athletic big man who can hit 15-footers and do some damage in the low post like Chris Bosh? then the Knicks could easily develop into a playoff team.

    LeBron who?

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    I've been supportive of the fact that our players are not as bad as everyone on this forum makes them out to be, but lets not get carried away here. The team severely lacks a go-to scorer, someone who can take over a game and not let leads like the one we had last night slip away. The team (besides Harrington, who i still think should go after the season) is built like a donut, we have pieces surrounding it but we need that center. The team constructed now has a ceiling of an 8th seed, which would be a huge accomplishment but in the future I want to be more then just an eighth seed.

    I wrote on my website that it is still really important to trade Jeffries as the future is more important then the present, but as soon as Jeffries is gone, so are our playoff hopes, because he is the only thing keeping out defense in-tact.
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    Well I stopped reading after his assessment of Duhon and Lee.

    Duhon has been energized all season? lol... He was absolutely dire until this last string of games those were the only games he showed up to all season long.

    And Lee's vastly improved defense? Yeah that was really apparent last night when Felton drove straight through him on 2 consecutive possessions to put the game out of the Knicks reach.


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