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    Default The Big Debate.

    What's your opinion on the future state of the Knicks if Lebron doesn't sign here?


    In light of a decade of suffering Knick fandom, and 2 years of -let's face it- tanking in the name of James, who is calling failure if he doesn't come?

    I'm not. The big reason being that we had to drag the franchise out of the financial toilet.

    I'll elaborate later but leave on this note:

    Anyone who thinks the Randolph and Crawford trade not happening would have us in a better situation now............. You are a smelly person.

    Prepare for the onslaught of a Kiyaman stampede!
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    Not really. Sign JJ, Lee, TyrusT.

    Douglas
    JJ-Walker
    Gallo-Chandler
    Lee
    Tyrus-Barron

    Team would at least be a lotta fun to watch next year; and could be a sleeper.

    Could still look to do a Chandler + pick for Flynn/Rubio too, eg.

    Let The McFlurry melt. Ink Melo/Parker after but 1 more season.

    Still in good, maybe great shape; and certainly a revolution, tho maybe an imperfect one, from the epic-fail Walsh inherited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iSaYughh View Post
    Not really. Sign JJ, Lee, TyrusT.

    Douglas
    JJ-Walker
    Gallo-Chandler
    Lee
    Tyrus-Barron

    Team would at least be a lotta fun to watch next year; and could be a sleeper.

    Could still look to do a Chandler + pick for Flynn/Rubio too, eg.

    Let The McFlurry melt. Ink Melo/Parker after but 1 more season.

    Still in good, maybe great shape; and certainly a revolution, tho maybe an imperfect one, from the epic-fail Walsh inherited.
    BANG!

    Off to a great start in my eyes.

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    I love that line up and it would be more entertaining to watch it would be total team play then add varando and vasguez then you sign two other players to the minnimum undrafts or vetran free agents

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    It's a failure only because we shed cap in such a hurry that we traded Hill and future picks in the hopes of making a splash in 2010. If we don't get 2 max worthy players or close to it this year then the urgency was not justified. Having cap space is always good but having draft picks and cap space at a slower pace may be better if Lebron caliber players don't sign this year.

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    Yeah. If we don't get 2 maxes, we could've just let Jeffries' contract expire, keep Jordan Hill as our Center, drafted some PGs in the draft, used our 2011 draft pick (that would've been higher), and signed Carmelo Anthony in 2011 since he's pretty high (no pun intended) on coming to New York.

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    It was a necessary risk though, so I'm not going to complain about it if Lebron doesn't come. It was guaranteed that nobody was coming if Jeffries was still here.

    With our cap flexibility, we have countless options available to us. At the very latest, by this year's trade deadline, we will have a very good team. A team that is a thousand times better than the one we would have had we kept Crawford and Z-Bo.

    Teams will be desperate and we will be the beneficiaries. We may even be able to recoup some of those lost draft picks. So Lebron, or no Lebron, I like where we are headed.

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    Heck, worst case scenario is better than what we had before. I would be happy if we signed Lee, Rudy Gay, Steve Blake, Anthony Morrow and Tyrus Thomas. Then traded Curry's contract for Andres Biedrens.

    PG-Blake
    SG-Gay
    SF-Gallo
    PF-Lee
    C-Biedrens

    w/ Douglas, Morrow, Chandler, Thomas and Walker off the bench.

    That's a deep team with a lot of versaltility and a good mix of defense and offense. A lot of players that can play multiple positions, which D'Antoni likes.

    You could do a pure offense lineup with Blake, Morrow, Gay, Gallo and Lee. Or a pure defense lineup with Douglas, Chandler, Gay, Thomas adn Biedrens. The Suns were a 10 deep team all year and throughout the playoffs.
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    I love that idea too and it would be possible to make a team with no allstar

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    I like that except I want the cap space to sign Carmelo Anthony

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    All of Isiah Thomas players contracts expired after the 2010-11 season taking us out of any high salary cap.

    Zach & Crawford was the Knicks leading scorers that wanted Isiah FIRED.
    But then all the players/coaches wanted Isiah FIRED.
    Giving the coaching-chain to interim coach Herb Williams, who is known for not taking any bull from Marbury wouldve been the best move to make to raise all of Isiah's players "trade-value" for good prospects in return during the 2009 trading deadline/draft night trades/offseason trades/2010 deadline trades.

    The 2 year TANKING and DNP of healthy players were all uncalled for.

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    Hey look a Kiyaman post that doesn't say "D'amntoni" in it!

    Seriously though, trading Jordan Hill would have been a waste. I thought he had some pretty good potential to be a decent, if undersized, center...

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    if we do not get lebron, I just wish we have a young, hustling, don't die attitude team. I'm sick of the Knick team quitting on the coach year after year. Maybe the Knicks can be the next Oklahoma City Thunder. I'm happy if we have at least half the talent of that team.

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    the only way these past two years are not a waste is ONLY if Wade or Lebron is signed. If not, its been a total waste. Anyone who says its not is completely fooling themselves. Listen, when walsh announced his "plan" for getting the knicks back to a respectable organization, he all but said its going to be respectable because of lebron james. so he put all his eggs in one basket. He didn't try to make the team he inherited better, he traded or released the top 3 players at the time, he made a ridiculous draft pick in Hill when point guards were available, then you counters that by allowing his coach to not play him.

    You guys can **** on Zach Randolph and Crawford all you want, but the fact of the matter is, they were a product of the system. They each went to different systems, with better coaches, and they excelled. If Isiah thomas would have hired a real coach the knicks would have been a better team years ago, If donnie walsh didn't compound on Isiahs mistakes and hire the wrong kind of coach for the Knicks, they would have been a better team.

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    As I look into my crystal ball I see Lebron staying in CLE., Wade stays in MIA and is joined by Bosh, Amare stays in PHX, Dirk stays in DAL, and JJ goes to CHI with Boozer. The Knick allow Lee to sign elsewhere while waiting for the "King" to choose to stay home.

    That brings us to another season of losing with the hope of landing some "Big" FA in 2011? But untill then we'll have to field a team and it may look something like this???

    TD/???
    Walker/??? (I'd like A.Marrow here)
    Chandler/
    Gallo/Draft
    Curry/??? (maybe B.Haywood) / Draft

    Then at the end of another losing season D'antoni is fired and is replaced by Mark Jackson as Head Coach and Patrick Ewing as Assistant Head Coach and Bigs Coach, They start by bringing back tough NY style of play Basketball find us a real Center (maybe Pat could bring D.Howard with him ) and PG and they bring KNICK'S BASKETBALL back to where it should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    .......... just saying
    " It's a new era for the Knicks "

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