ronoranina
Fundamentally Sound
I didn't say that. And you didn't answer my question.
In our wins against Chicago and Washington, what were the keys to victory? If you watched the games, you'll know.
Seriously. I get the whole time and gelling hoopla. I do. But what about the stand out lack of clarity in strategies we've seen in every game, except for the +40% 3P% games? There are parrots that can tell you 3 is more than 2.
NY - no Nash. No Nash in NY. Phoenix Nash. Nash plays in Phoenix. That was a stacked team of veterans, a young stud and an MVP. Peter Griffin would be successful with that crew. You're misguiding yourself with your own references. Phoenix comparisons mean literally nothing in NY in 2010. Nothing. The fact that NY are enquiring about Nash's availability is enough to ensure me that Mike is lost without him. That, and the last 2 seasons, as complete a bumbling debacle as I've ever seen, are no longer an excuse for sub par leadership.
Courtesy of CoolClyde.
"Biggest weakness: Stubborness can often alienate, confuse complimentary players" Is the man stuck in a mode? You referred to the ingredients in a cake, yes? MD is a selective eater. Like a panda or koala. One way, one ingredient and nothing more. Adjusting,, apparently is not an option.
What's not to grasp? Mike's mantra has, thus far, been based around shooting threes, cutting and the P&R. Comparatively, no post up plays for STAT, no isolations for Wilson to do what he does best, not a single P&R play for the Gov who sets great picks and rolls exceptionally well, no baseline screens for a 10-12 foot catch and shoot jumper/ the absence of a mid range game in any way, shape or form.. That, and less than a dozen picks have been set for Chandler. If I could be bothered, I'd go on. In fact, I think I will.
"D'Antoni is not perfect -- he stubbornly relies on a short rotation despite playing at a breathneck pace - but he's a brilliant offensive mind that understands the key to a good offense in this league is eschewing the mid-range jump shot."
Shunning the mid range game doesn't bring success!!!! That poop's so rotten it's steaming! Let's look at some of the decade's championship teams and their mid range contributors.
Detroit - Hamilton, Billups
LA - Kobe, Gasol
SA - Parker, Duncan
Boston - Pierce, Garnett
Any familiarity amongst that list of names?
Chandler, Felton, Douglas, Gallo and, with time, Randolph are all highly capable mid range converters. Chandler especially has a crisp baseline 15-20 footer. Gallo can drop them from anywhere. What form of deluded mind shuns an entire facet of offense and is considered an offensive genius?
You can't possibly agree with that sentiment? I can't see how anyone could.
In fact, I dedicated an entire thread to our success depending on spreading the floor with shots inside the 20 foot semi circle. Here it is. Please, check it out it'll save me the effort of typing more.http://www.knicksonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9146&highlight=feet
As I mentioned previously, I question whether or not you've watched any games? Because if you have, you would have seen Chandler's capabilities in full array during the pre-season and in our opening 3 games as a spot shooting/slashing threat. What happened to that? I'll ****ing tell you what happened.....It's more of Mike's unyielding, fractious 'my way' mindset.
No, not suddenly, not recently, but it did happen all of a sudden. On the day Shaquille O'Neal referred to himself as the Big Cactus. Shaq threw a spanner in Mike's fanny and now we have a team that isn't based on a one track MO as well.
Again. Have you been watching the games!? Have you seen the team crumble? Have you watched the 'SSOL' (which spells LOSS backwards) hand momentum to the other team? Our excellent first quarters (bar Philly)? Our players look they've had plenty of time on the court together. They're just not being coached to epitomise their strengths individually or as a unit/units.
There has been no encouragement from Mike, from what I've seen, in crucial stages of the 3rd and 4th quarters, to use the clock, draw fouls or set drawn out plays based around interior to perimeter passing to lull the defence in to mistakes as leads dwindle..... The green light is killing us. Again, where is the mid range threat? 3, 3, 3, 3, 3. Can't not mention missed layups though.
"D'Antoni preaches a low foul rate, sometimes at the expense of preventing points."
What sort of philosophical crud is that?
Thank you for making my own last point resoundingly clear in your own post! We have what we need to win on the roster. That's the most overt point I could possibly make. Getting your team to the best possible result requires an in depth perception of the players we have VS the motto Dantoni's created. Well, he didn't even create it! 'My way or the highway' is older than Donnie Walsh.
So yet again, I'll make my point, my perception, the premise of my disdain, whatever you want to call it, clear once again:
MD's ways are set in adamant and none shall suffice without doing so on the onus of his tenure in Phoenix.
He's fixated on past success, as the coach of a team locked in a tumultuous present. So with the past and present covered, the future is looking bleak with MD pressing the wrong buttons on a time worn modus operandi that depends on such focal components.
ie: Steve Nash
hate to be redundant but 3 point shooting is what will get us to be a consistent offensive team. that's how the system is played..
as i explained in my op, it is possible to shoot it consistently on a night to night basis.. phoenix proves that. they run the same system but there guys hit shots. nash has alot to do w that as he is a mistro at the ssol system.
felton could improve in a couple of areas:
1. consistently push the ball up the court and pass it aggressively up the court in transition.
2. break down the defense much more. get in there and cause havoc.
3. when getting in the paint be more patient. maintain your dribble at times, maybe take a little fade-away at others, shoot the runner, just be a threat and keep the defense guessing.
the team as a whole would benefit if felton took more control of the offense and was more like nash. we know he can't be nash, but he can be more nash-like more often.. this would help the offense greatly. it would also help the perimeter shooters. if the perimeter shooters start to click, then amare has more breathing room and so will the pick and roll.
this is how i think our offense can get better in a few different, important facets. as i stated above there are some things felton can do to be the pg this offense needs. he needs to be nash-like..
next, yes coach is in stuck mode. he has his offense and he's gonna go w it for better or worse. my belief is that we've seen it run great before and history tends to and can repeat itself. i think it can work here too. mike d can coach up pg's. he knows the position, as he was one (a great one in his own right) and has coached the position for a long time well. he did have alot to do w nash's development. that is undeniable. felton may not end up being what nash is, but i believe coach d can get him somewhere in the neighborhood. this would look like him being able to run the offense capably enough to where our shooters could breathe on the perimeter, there would be that crisp timing to the offense and the pick and roll would be effective. not too much to ask of mike d.. this is what he does. this is a new team w new players, a new point guard. simply put, it will take time.
also, mike d doesn't have a whole lot of options right now. these guys don't know how to run his offense competently enough yet. you crawl before yo can walk my dude. we start two rookies and we have a new point guard. out of the only three players that really know the system that start, only two of them have played together and that was only for a season and a handful of games. what do you expect dude.. if your as smart as you want everyone on here to think you are you should know this group of players needs time to develop an array of threatening plays that will work consistently. let felt get a feel for amare in the pick and roll. let some of the other little plays start to develop. let the guys get to know where each other will be in the myriad of instances throughout a game. let them develop chemistry. you can't rush it.. neither can i. it will take time, maybe a whole season.
again we run the ssol. this is the way we play. get over it. you're right about the mid range game being a great, viable weapon in the league tho .. can't deny that. but there happen to be different philosophies out there and mike d's is just one of them. again, it has worked in the past. it can work now.
mike d hasn't lost any of his coaching abilites.. your're overreacting to an under- gunned, inexperienced team that lacks chemistry at the moment. to me it's a waste of energy and time if you know what it takes to get good, ie time, ups and downs, etc. and, yes i've seen the third and forth quarter collaspes. they are symptomatic of a young inexperienced team learning to win. pretty simple.
And no, we don't have what we need to be the kind of team we all want. we have just enough to be a scrappy .500, or just under .500 team. it will take time and growing pains to grow into that tho, which we've seen over the last 9 games.