MaGee anyone?
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Knicks4Life_1985
★The Floor General★
OriginalKnickGrandson
Starter
yes exactly, he reminds me so much of camby dudes....lols
id love to get his ass up in ny dudes. next step would only be to get another perimeter playmaker and we're good dudes...
TruOrngnBlu
Benchwarmer
Seriously doubt it!
I just can't see the Wiz giving up Mcgee for just AR or just any old player. Mcgee is a need player for most if not all franchises. Bigs are always at a premium we'd have to give them something alot of us would't want to part with.
That being said, If he can develop a nice lil reliable 15 ft. jumper ala Camby or Oakley...He'd be perrrfect for this team. Question is who are you willing to give up???
Not even sure AR and TD are enough. Could be more like AR and Fields
I just can't see the Wiz giving up Mcgee for just AR or just any old player. Mcgee is a need player for most if not all franchises. Bigs are always at a premium we'd have to give them something alot of us would't want to part with.
That being said, If he can develop a nice lil reliable 15 ft. jumper ala Camby or Oakley...He'd be perrrfect for this team. Question is who are you willing to give up???
Not even sure AR and TD are enough. Could be more like AR and Fields
Markutis
Benchwarmer
Forget about Fields. This guy has to be the third untouchable player of the team along with Stat and Felton. I can live without Chandler or Toney or even Gallinari but leave Landry Fields alone. He's smart, composed, has great basketball IQ, a lot of potential and he's cheap. How many players like him are there in the league right now?
Crazy⑧s
Evacuee
Are you from Syria? Are you Syrias?
-This isn't a reference for proposing trades to Washington. McGee is a specimen that you don't give up on a rookie's wage.
-Blatche has been a hinderance with his bad 'tude the last 3 years, and hasn't emulated his pre contract form since the Arenas suspension.
-McGee's contract lasts 2012/13 at an incremental total of $4M with a Q.O in the final year - Blatche's lasts until 2014/15 and sits at $35M without any clauses of any kind.
-McGee, IMO, will lead the league in blocks at some stage(s) in his career, is the perfect above the rim player for Wall to play with, is one of the fastest and most athletic centers in the whole league.
-McGee is - potentially a better version of - Tyson Chandler waiting to happen. Blatche is on the decline, not significantly, but doesn't appear to be improving markedly since 'breaking out' 2 seasons ago.
★ McGee would be IDEAL for this team defensively. Not so much offensively. If we had a different coach, that would less likely be the case. All things considered, the chances of Washington trading him are slimmer than Ally MacBeal's clitoris. Blatche, on the other hand, has proven to be another big signing that didn't work out in Washington. Wizards trade Blatche, not McGee.
-This isn't a reference for proposing trades to Washington. McGee is a specimen that you don't give up on a rookie's wage.
-Blatche has been a hinderance with his bad 'tude the last 3 years, and hasn't emulated his pre contract form since the Arenas suspension.
-McGee's contract lasts 2012/13 at an incremental total of $4M with a Q.O in the final year - Blatche's lasts until 2014/15 and sits at $35M without any clauses of any kind.
-McGee, IMO, will lead the league in blocks at some stage(s) in his career, is the perfect above the rim player for Wall to play with, is one of the fastest and most athletic centers in the whole league.
-McGee is - potentially a better version of - Tyson Chandler waiting to happen. Blatche is on the decline, not significantly, but doesn't appear to be improving markedly since 'breaking out' 2 seasons ago.
★ McGee would be IDEAL for this team defensively. Not so much offensively. If we had a different coach, that would less likely be the case. All things considered, the chances of Washington trading him are slimmer than Ally MacBeal's clitoris. Blatche, on the other hand, has proven to be another big signing that didn't work out in Washington. Wizards trade Blatche, not McGee.
The Javel can run, too. That + his athleticism should have D'ant percolated enough.
Like I keep saying, a guy like him is perfect too bc he won't "demand" starter minutes -- he won't expect it, and his contract won't make it seem necessary.
Paying big salary and taking in a starting C ego will never be worth it to us unless we get a C who can truly play C for d'ant and have the game where MD will plug his ass in and his offense will run seamless and without much hitch.
M. Gasol is the most realistic guy like this. But lord knows how much MEM will give to him.
With Amare being able to play the 5, and play it so well, along with guys like Gallo/Chandler/Turiaf...and Amare himself, being able to fill in the 4 so adequately, we have the versatitlity -- where for our versatile offense -- we can get a more "specialized"/focused talent, a la McGee (or a lot of the bigs in upcoming FA) who won't demand starting minutes and salary.
But will fill a necessary niche for us, he of relatively minimal risk and overall consequence to our franchise and it's flexibility, and boost needed areas while not sacrificing but likely improving our offensive flow.
Interesting Scenario of Diabolic Genius Move Shaking for a 10-Man Lineup:
Chandler for The Javel
Moz, 2nd, 2nd for Mayo
Gallo, Fields, 1st package for Melo
AR, Walker for Iggy
Sign Kirilienko in offseason.
Felton-Douglas
Iggy-Mayo
Melo-AK47
STAT-Turiaf
McGee-? (Jerome Jordan)
Douglas can be a great backup guard bc Iggy is such a good passer. Which will also let Felton maximize his scoring and shooting even more. And there's ridiculous versatility for going big, small, lockdown D, absurdly fast paced offense, and matchup hell for opposing teams.
Douglas
Iggy
AK
Turiaf
McGee
Felton
Mayo
Iggy
Melo
STAT
Like I keep saying, a guy like him is perfect too bc he won't "demand" starter minutes -- he won't expect it, and his contract won't make it seem necessary.
Paying big salary and taking in a starting C ego will never be worth it to us unless we get a C who can truly play C for d'ant and have the game where MD will plug his ass in and his offense will run seamless and without much hitch.
M. Gasol is the most realistic guy like this. But lord knows how much MEM will give to him.
With Amare being able to play the 5, and play it so well, along with guys like Gallo/Chandler/Turiaf...and Amare himself, being able to fill in the 4 so adequately, we have the versatitlity -- where for our versatile offense -- we can get a more "specialized"/focused talent, a la McGee (or a lot of the bigs in upcoming FA) who won't demand starting minutes and salary.
But will fill a necessary niche for us, he of relatively minimal risk and overall consequence to our franchise and it's flexibility, and boost needed areas while not sacrificing but likely improving our offensive flow.
Interesting Scenario of Diabolic Genius Move Shaking for a 10-Man Lineup:
Chandler for The Javel
Moz, 2nd, 2nd for Mayo
Gallo, Fields, 1st package for Melo
AR, Walker for Iggy
Sign Kirilienko in offseason.
Felton-Douglas
Iggy-Mayo
Melo-AK47
STAT-Turiaf
McGee-? (Jerome Jordan)
Douglas can be a great backup guard bc Iggy is such a good passer. Which will also let Felton maximize his scoring and shooting even more. And there's ridiculous versatility for going big, small, lockdown D, absurdly fast paced offense, and matchup hell for opposing teams.
Douglas
Iggy
AK
Turiaf
McGee
Felton
Mayo
Iggy
Melo
STAT
Crazy⑧s
Evacuee
Truth x1000.
Chandler + ____ would be well worth it.
I'd argue that offensively McGee would be more than fine, too. His speed and athleticism in this offense will not just engender him to MD, but create even more simple scoring opportunities. All while seamlessly fitting into team offense and letting the big scoring dogs get more meat.
We also don't want a "good starting center". Unless they are pretty great and will fit us like a glove. The demands of them, money especially,just won't be worth it otherwise. Not with MD, not with this team.
I'd rather have a "solid, speculative starting center",but who could be a quality minutes but non-full-time starter who has "perfect, dominant-like skills that we can fit us like a glove and we can utilize with our overall team in mind without making a big financial/emotional investment in"
Why as far as FA's go I'm so high on BigBaby. Has size and versatility with a quality shot, solid D with some unique qualities. Can come off the bench just as smoothly as he can start -- and can play the 4 and 5.
Crazy⑧s
Evacuee
Hence McGee's abilities and contract being a perfect for us, in my opinion. Washington won't trade him, but I'd be willing to hand them Gallo and AR if they were. My reasoning for that is in my previous post. I see all the things I mentioned therein reason enough to make that trade.
Absolutely! But I still think he's an untouchable.
Fair enough, but he probably won't be ready for opening night. We'll still be scrubbing the stench of Celtic gayness out of him by Christmas. I am taking the lockout into account here, too.
Lollll. :teeth: Fair enough. Walsh will have to design a Clockwork Orange-like indoctrination chamber where Davis watches doctored, montage video of Garnett and Pierce being knee capped and pissed on by people wearing orange and blue jumpsuits.
Re: McGee. Ya, it'd surprise me, but if Blatche(!) proves to be un-tradable...Yet he clearly still has value and they want to play him/must play him...They have enough logic -- or at least panic and emotion -- to seriously look into a Javel trade.
In which case we swoop in with either Gallo or Chandler. Likely whomever DEN is perceived to covet less.
Crazy⑧s
Evacuee
Exactly. That is so well said. I still advocate maintaining those variables. They are nicer than nice, IMO. Our 'turn cards' are STAT, Fields, Chandler and Felton and we can afford to play a less daring hand.
A big part of me wouldn't hate for that to happen at all. You can bet Jim Dolan doesn't agree.
metrocard
Legend
You obviously never seen McGee play.
StEpHoN_mArBuRy
All Star
I thought Crazy8's analysis of McGee was pretty good.
metrocard
Legend
You good at making shit up. Not to be mean.
Chandler can play D on the block, man to man, and just lock his man down.
Block shots = good...but thats all McGee does. He gives up a lot of points on the D side.
Everything McGee does, Randolph does.McGee is not a defensive big. He has absolutely no idea about man defense, positioning, rotations, etc. He's really a horrible basketball player at this point.
This system requires smart players, not guys that can jump and run.
Plus, 'Antoni is obsessed with STAT at C.
Lets look into a 4.
I like Andy Vaejao
all around defense.
Chandler can play D on the block, man to man, and just lock his man down.
Block shots = good...but thats all McGee does. He gives up a lot of points on the D side.
Everything McGee does, Randolph does.McGee is not a defensive big. He has absolutely no idea about man defense, positioning, rotations, etc. He's really a horrible basketball player at this point.
This system requires smart players, not guys that can jump and run.
Plus, 'Antoni is obsessed with STAT at C.
Lets look into a 4.
I like Andy Vaejao
all around defense.
