Linsanity Rule could ease all our off season concerns!
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CA7
Scoring Champ
Well I'd split it and the bi annual between 3 guys
PG- Kirk Hinrich- 2.5mil
SG- Deshawn Stevenson- LeBron's worst nightmare- bi annual exception
PF- Jeremy Evans- 2.5mil
draft- Moe Harkless- trade up into late 1st using Toney and Landry plus our 2nd Rounder
re-sign Bibby
G- Lin/Hinrich/Bibby
G- Stevenson/Smith
F- Anthony/Harkless/Novak
F- Stoudemire/Evans
C- Chandler/Harrellson/Jordan
Shumpert will be out for a while so its best to look forward to starting the year without him, I dont wanna lose Jeffries but Evans is younger and more athletic and provides similar contributions on the game. Hinrich is the perfect back up as he knows Woody's system and can play both guard spots as well as shoot and defend, Stevenson adds more perimeter D and attitude as well as range, Harkless is the young James Posey type we need off the bench.
We get younger, faster, more athletic and deeper
21 Shump Street
Benchwarmer
Jesus that's actually much better than anything i've seen so far. Im real big on the Hinrich & Stevenson signings as we need a legit backup PG and he already knows Woodson's system.
I have faith in Grunwald and hope that he can prove his pickups and last offseason weren't a one off. Just hoping that this rule goes in our favour now! I'd think that pending Lin is re-signed Dolan will retire to his boardroom chair and leave the rest of the transactions to Grunwald. He has a big 3 and Lin so his money driven ego should be satisfied.
I have faith in Grunwald and hope that he can prove his pickups and last offseason weren't a one off. Just hoping that this rule goes in our favour now! I'd think that pending Lin is re-signed Dolan will retire to his boardroom chair and leave the rest of the transactions to Grunwald. He has a big 3 and Lin so his money driven ego should be satisfied.
CA7
Scoring Champ
we dont need major moves to be honest, we just need 2 way players those who can score a little and defend a lot
Hinrich, Stevenson are great guys to add to Lin, Shumpert and Smith
Harkless and Evans will work STAT and Melo in practice and be great energy guys for us
Jordan and Harrellson both will get better and Chandler will not lose his intensity and leadership
Novak will be our specialist and Bibby is the vet PG playing short minutes
STAT1
Starter
Be realistic guys, we're not gonna be able to sign both Lin AND Nash this summer. Nash will easily command more than the Mid Level from the Suns, the Knicks won't be able to match their offer with any salary exception. Lin is going to be the choice for us. Landry Fields will likely be back too since we have Bird Rights on him as well.
A good backup PG option that already has shown good chemistry with STAT & is familiar w/many of the plays the Knicks run is Raymond Felton. I think we could get him to sign for the bi-annual exception. The most painful loss this summer will be Steve Novak no doubt, we won't have enough cap flexibility to be able to keep him on the roster with the offers he's going to get in free agency. It's going to suck real bad losing him, he was our only real consistent shooting threat from the perimeter.
A good backup PG option that already has shown good chemistry with STAT & is familiar w/many of the plays the Knicks run is Raymond Felton. I think we could get him to sign for the bi-annual exception. The most painful loss this summer will be Steve Novak no doubt, we won't have enough cap flexibility to be able to keep him on the roster with the offers he's going to get in free agency. It's going to suck real bad losing him, he was our only real consistent shooting threat from the perimeter.
tkrieger
Benchwarmer
I live in Phoenix, and have seen Steve Nash play a lot........ I happen to be one who believes he would NOT be an upgrade over Jeremy Lin..........
Sure Nash would get more assists per game, and maybe shoot better at the line and beyond the arc (although Lin is excellent at the line too). But Lin could do so many things Nash has never been able to do, such as create his own shot, penetrate without a screen, play big on defense (maybe Nash's biggest flaw), and most-importantly take over a game.
Acquiring Steve Nash would indeed divide fans regarding who should start and finish games...... Maybe I'd start Nash just to get the players involved (very reliable in this regard), but Nash has never finished games the way Lin has.
And as one who prefers complete players over one-trick ponies, I'm afraid Steve Nash is too much of a one-trick pony......... Those tricks might be exceptional (assists/distribution and shooting), but his liability on defense and inability to take over games have been the prime reasons Nash has never won a title. Two items which happen to be strong points with Jeremy Lin.
Sure Nash would get more assists per game, and maybe shoot better at the line and beyond the arc (although Lin is excellent at the line too). But Lin could do so many things Nash has never been able to do, such as create his own shot, penetrate without a screen, play big on defense (maybe Nash's biggest flaw), and most-importantly take over a game.
Acquiring Steve Nash would indeed divide fans regarding who should start and finish games...... Maybe I'd start Nash just to get the players involved (very reliable in this regard), but Nash has never finished games the way Lin has.
And as one who prefers complete players over one-trick ponies, I'm afraid Steve Nash is too much of a one-trick pony......... Those tricks might be exceptional (assists/distribution and shooting), but his liability on defense and inability to take over games have been the prime reasons Nash has never won a title. Two items which happen to be strong points with Jeremy Lin.
NYk_Reloaded718
★KNICKS-TAPE★
The way things been going for the Knicks as of lately the chances of this happening in our favor are small.
I wanted to put this up for the longest but my anger over the new CBA rules vs big market teams made me delete the copy.....plus I couldnt imagine coach Dantoni giving any playingtime to a walking FA or a D.League player.
For those who want to sign a Jamal Crawford, Felton, Andre Miller, or another JR Smith type of player with our MLE, here's a Red Flag for u.....we do not want to sign our MLE to players that fold under pressure in big games and look like an all star vs mediocre teams.
We want to sign our MLE to a PG that steps up his level of performance in big games, plus be proud to share the point with Lin throughout the season (Billups or Nash).
I think you may be right because one of the purposes of the CBA was to make small market teams more competitive by taking away the power to spend by big market teams, a ruling like giving bird rights to waivered players doesn't do that.
Good thing is the ruling should come soon before the FA flood gates open, so we should know soon.
NYk_Reloaded718
★KNICKS-TAPE★
yup, Just because your a big market does not always mean your getting the players you want. The only player that wanted to come to this beautiful city of New York was AMARE STOUDEMIRE and part of the reason we got him was because we over paid the guy with bad knees 100 mill.
AMEN.......sign proven winners!!!!!!
tripleaamin9
Benchwarmer
BTW is their any chance we could get Billups?
Weissenberg
Grid or Riot
If you think Chauncey would reunite with the Knicks after we amnestied him you're delusional...
tripleaamin9
Benchwarmer
I was just wondering, but anyway yeah u r proably right.
New New York
Quiet Storm
Yeah....two factors working against us with that one....1. if the "linsanity rule" does pass then LA will have freedom to sign Chauncy for whatever they want and 2. If he does leave LA for another team it would be Mia. and that would be flat out scary!
You can tell I have contemplated the same thing
New New York
Quiet Storm
Good point...but lets remember the major issue for The Union was not affecting the players ability to make money, if players lose their Bird Rights once they are waived this could rob a number of players (not just Lin and Novak) of millions!
Think about it...by getting wavied a player's market value is instantly decreased if a team is only allowed to use The MLE on them, players like Lin and Billups who were claimed off waivers would have easily made more than the MLE next season (had they both not gotten injured) so how fair is it to cap what they can make next season?
is it fair that a player like Novak is not allowed to play for the team that wants him and that he wants to play for because they do not have the money to sign them?
Sure the have nots will complain, but the players and half the teams in The NBA will be for it....and deep down inside so will Stern and Adam Silver
SSj4Wingzero
All Star
IMO the Bird Rights should transfer, and here's way.
If a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded away with him, correct?
So how should this situation be any different? The only difference is that he's basically going from one team to another for free, and it seems messed up. I understand the NBA not wanting this rule because it does allow players to demand more money from the cash-strapped teams but honestly it's not like we're talking about big time superstars here, we're talking about players who were waived at some point which means it's just a matter of allowing teams to sign free agents to slightly more than the minimum while not killing themselves entirely.
If the players' association wins this battle this will be a bargain. Keep Lin, keep Novak, get Steve Nash, have Lin come off the bench.
If a player is traded, his Bird rights are traded away with him, correct?
So how should this situation be any different? The only difference is that he's basically going from one team to another for free, and it seems messed up. I understand the NBA not wanting this rule because it does allow players to demand more money from the cash-strapped teams but honestly it's not like we're talking about big time superstars here, we're talking about players who were waived at some point which means it's just a matter of allowing teams to sign free agents to slightly more than the minimum while not killing themselves entirely.
If the players' association wins this battle this will be a bargain. Keep Lin, keep Novak, get Steve Nash, have Lin come off the bench.
21 Shump Street
Benchwarmer
Come on man, Nash isn't coming here. Look at it from an outside view. He wants to play on a contender. We are a dangerous playoff team, not a contender. I know we all want him here and he lives in Soho in the offseason, but why, if he wants a title would he choose here over Miami or Chicago with Rose out? If the ruling goes the union's way I could see us more likely signing Miller/Felton, getting a backup for Melo which we really need(Grant Hill was real close to signing for our bi-annual last year) or perhaps trying to lure Camby. Hell JR might even get our mid level, doubt Grunwald does that however.
I know we all love the story of Nash coming to NY, but Lin with a backup of Miller/Felton/Hinrich* (knows Woodson's system) and another quality role player is a better situation for us then Lin/Nash
SSj4Wingzero
All Star
JR isn't getting the mid-level.
I agree that Nash coming is a long shot. But he's not worth much in Miami (when they have two dominant ball handlers in LeBron and Wade) and he'd be good for half a season and then fail to co-exist with Rose. If he went to any team that is currently a contender he'd be relegated to nothing more than a spot up shooter. I think he might come to NY only because it'd be one of the few places where he could actually contribute a serious amount of minutes, unlike those other teams where he'd be a tertiary guy. And that's the problem - it's not as if Nash is playing like a veteran who needs to chase for a ring. He's playing like the best PG in the league right now and he's not going to play for Miami and Chicago and be the third option. Not his style. Better for him to come to a team like NY where he'd be the starting point guard.
I agree that Nash coming is a long shot. But he's not worth much in Miami (when they have two dominant ball handlers in LeBron and Wade) and he'd be good for half a season and then fail to co-exist with Rose. If he went to any team that is currently a contender he'd be relegated to nothing more than a spot up shooter. I think he might come to NY only because it'd be one of the few places where he could actually contribute a serious amount of minutes, unlike those other teams where he'd be a tertiary guy. And that's the problem - it's not as if Nash is playing like a veteran who needs to chase for a ring. He's playing like the best PG in the league right now and he's not going to play for Miami and Chicago and be the third option. Not his style. Better for him to come to a team like NY where he'd be the starting point guard.