Can We Win w/ D'Antoni

TR1LL10N

Hannibal Lecter
Great post! Really nice vids as well.

Dantoni is on Team USA mainly because hes the most familiar with the Euro style of play.

While I would LOVE to have a defensive specialist on the knicks, the Suns squads in the past where definitely underrated defensively. The key is to get the stops when they really matter. Using all your energy on defense all the time can backfire on you as well. Its all a matter of having the right players for your system and this year looks a LOT more promising.

You would think that with all the talk of the knicks being completely focused on fast tempo and absolutely no defense should make the knicks at least top 3 in terms of pace. They weren't even top 5. I believe it was 9th in the NBA last season. While thats not slow, it certainly doesn't add up to all the press the Knicks get about inflated stats and the like. Especially that tired talk of David Lee having great stats just because of the system. The man just hustles and has a knack for being in the right place. No one talks about Indiana who ranks number 2 for having no defense and inflated stats.

This is a case of a well known coach in the Mecca of basketball. When he loses, he'll be analyzed and criticized by all. If he starts winning, everyone who was whining about him will suddenly write about how underrated his defense and coaching is.


Yea, I have been battling those talking points all year. The simple fact is that we did not have the players to run SSOL so Dan't went with a modified half court offense relying mostly on the PnR. The inflated stats people talk about come from the extra positions SSOL provides so D Lee got his numbers the "honest" way.

I also don't get why people buy into the notion that SSOL makes a team weak at defense. Maybe they give up a few points in transition but that should not effect intensity, defensive match ups or schemes. I will say it again, defense has more to do with the players than the coach. If a player is not committed or does not have good instincts a coach can run drills all day every day and it would not really improve anything.
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
Man, it's so ****ing simple.

Name one coach - ONE COACH that has been successful with a shit team in a rebuilding phase.

Just one will suffice.

Lottery teams are an exception with instantly high picks in the draft.

Otherwise, to the D'Antoni haters, give him half a year to either prove you right or wrong. Either way, you couldn't have ever predicted the future. All opinions based on assumption are ****ing useless.
 

knicksin60

Starter
There is only one answer to the question that was asked by the creator of this thread and it isn't a yes.Judging by his resume, nobody could win with Damphoni as their head coach.Even a starting five of Magic, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman and Kareem would have difficulty getting past the conference finals with him coaching them.It has been proven almost every year that celebrity coaches who are offensive minded,stubborn, terrible at communicating with players, terrible at coaching down the stretch, and who like to use small rosters are not coaches that can win in seven game series' against other elite teams.

I would love to drink the kool-aid by making the bold prediction of D'antoni's Knicks winning 50 games in the 2010-11 season but does anyone believe that D'antoni is going to help the Knicks win 20 more games next season because of the additions of Amar'e, Felton and a new group of role players? I am not picking the Knicks to miss the playoffs, even that is a very bold prediction to make.But this team won't be a top 5 seeded team in the Eastern Conference unless they add another superstar and even if they added another superstar D'antoni wouldn't be competent enough to coach them to the NBA finals.
 
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TR1LL10N

Hannibal Lecter
There is only one answer to the question that was asked by the creator of this thread and it isn't a yes.Judging by his resume, nobody could win with Damphoni as their head coach.Even a starting five of Magic, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman and Kareem would have difficulty getting past the conference finals with him coaching them.It has been proven almost every year that celebrity coaches who are offensive minded,stubborn, terrible at communicating with players, terrible at coaching down the stretch, and who like to use small rosters are not coaches that can win in seven game series' against other elite teams.

I would love to drink the kool-aid by making the bold prediction of D'antoni's Knicks winning 50 games in the 2010-11 season but does anyone believe that D'antoni is going to help the Knicks win 20 more games next season because of the additions of Amar'e, Felton and a new group of role players? I am not picking the Knicks to miss the playoffs, even that is a very bold prediction to make.But this team won't be a top 5 seeded team in the Eastern Conference unless they add another superstar and even if they added another superstar D'antoni wouldn't be competent enough to coach them to the NBA finals.


Not a single fact in your entire post. BTW, D'ant won several titles in Europe as coach and I already shredded the argument that he does not coach defense. Further he is such a horrible coach to players that Amare is coming back to him for a second stint. Who did he have issues with? N8 who dug his own grave? Harrington the ball chucking nija turtle who thinks he is Jordan? Darko? Come on maaaaaaaaaan!?
 

portega1968

El Cacique
Not a single fact in your entire post. BTW, D'ant won several titles in Europe as coach and I already shredded the argument that he does not coach defense. Further he is such a horrible coach to players that Amare is coming back to him for a second stint. Who did he have issues with? N8 who dug his own grave? Harrington the ball chucking nija turtle who thinks he is Jordan? Darko? Come on maaaaaaaaaan!?

really hard to argue with you buddy while I'm fixated on those set of pork chops wearing number 3 in your sig.
 

iJoe

Rotation player
Seriously, I wish people would at least skim a few posts before replying to a topic and feeling like a dumb ass.

Don't be a blind follower. Get some facts and do a little research. Hell, look up a few posts and most likely you'll find that your argument has already been posted and debunked.

btw trillion auto wins all debates with his sig
 

stuntmanmike

Benchwarmer
we won't win with d'ant, walsh, or dolan... it's sad my kids will never know a winning new york team.. not the knicks not the jonnies... sad for nybb
 

ronoranina

Fundamentally Sound
Yes, he can win it all. He just needs the right mix of players. Maybe we have the beginnings of that now, idk..

With Gallo growing into what most of us hope and believe he can be and a healthy Amare, this team could be really dangerous. Gallo is a hungry, fiery leader. Throw Felton in the mix with what he can bring and this could be a nice little squad.

Felton needs to bring it though. He needs to be our engine.

W Gallo, Amare and Felton we're one more player away from being a contender. Can AR be that guy?? I don't think so. I think he's a role player personally. And frankly you can't teach feel, or IQ as it's called more often around here. He is a nasty iso scorer tho. I could see him being our boris diaw type offensively, although Boris could shoot better than AR. AR's got holes in his game. I think we need another really nice player.

Right now we are about a 42-45 win team. I think D'ant is a really good coach. His name and job are both on the line. He can't have ANOTHER shitty-Knicks season. He will bring it this year. Considering those factors, we might be a 45-47 win team. :gony:
 

Kiyaman

Legend
It's funny that you call me clueless when all you do is make posts about non-reality...shit you totally made up in your head like a schoolgirl passing a rumor around about the cheerleader you are jealous about...

First it was your made up conspiracy theories about our front office, then it was Dr. Kiya the patella injury expert who knows that Azu is going to miss the whole season without a shred of proof.

D'ant is indeed an offensive specialist but he does coach defense quite well. Again, until you or anyone can explain why SSOL means weak defense all your talking points are as hollow as the national media's hate for the Knicks.

Watch and learn guys:




Lets see what our best defender over the last few years said about D'ant and defense:


D'ant was such a horrible coach that he won 2 coach of the year awards and Amare ran to play under him once again giving D'ant the chance to coach him through his prime.

The fact is the Suns could have won a title had a few things gone there way or had that not run into a Spurs dynasty. Riley is a hall of fame coach yet could not get the Knicks past MJ and the Bulls. It's clear your hate clouds your judgment and you are not looking at his tenure in Phoenix objectively.

P.S.This dude is still talking about Balkman a complete scrub! GTFOH!

P.P.S. Dan't was indeed brought in to coach offense with Team USA because they needed an offensive specialist to manage all that firepower. They had other coaches serving other roles and that in no way proves that D'ant can't or doesn't coach defense. In fact my video proves the exact opposite!


Tr1ll1on..... being clueless of the Knicks is not as bad as u think it is, u
should accept it with pride. Bigger people than
u like Layden/Isiah/Walsh/Lenny Wilkins/Larry Brown/and celebrity coach
Dantoni are all accepting their cluelessness of the Knicks and its
organization with pride.
u have to excuse Kiya, he have been a big pessimistic Knick fan since 1999
when the Knicks fired GM Ernie Grunfield (an ex-player/ex-coach/ex-GM of
the Knicks organization).
Two years after the firing of GM Ernie our best headcoach JVG quit with alot
of our great coaching-staff quiting alongside of coach JVG. This is how ex-
player Herb Williams became assistant headcoach of the Knicks the day after
his player contract expired.
The Knicks owner and all of the GM's he has hired since GM Ernie have done
nothing to build or replace the big coaching-staff that Pat Riley put into
place to take us to the FINALS (twice).

We have 10 young athletic players on the 2010-11 new roster, these young
players could improve their performance by meshin with their teammates on
either offense/defense in a uptempo or halfcourt setting if we had the
"coaches" to make them stick to the plan.
It is obvious as a quack from a duck we will need a big man coach on the
bench yelling guidance for the signing of Euro-player 7.0 C-Mozgov switch to
the NBA league, where the rules, tactics of oponents, and expectation of his
teammates will be alot different from what he is used to. The Knicks dont
have anyone on their coaching-staff that qualify for that job for a NCAA
bigman. I dont recall them hiring anyone who speak fluent russian/english
either.

u can boast about Dantoni's record and success in Phoenix while leaving out
Phoenix Marbury/Marion/Joe Johnson/Chambers were a playoff team when
Dantoni was an assistant coach for the Denver Nuggets.
u can also leave out all of the veteran players experience in the
(Western Conference of the) starting 6 men in Dantoni's first full season
as headcoach of the Phoenix Suns.
Dantoni not wanting GM Kerr to hire defensive coach Tom Thib, plus wanting
defensive C/F-Kurt Thomas off the roster during the same offseason, which
was the big talk in Phoenix during Dantoni's last season in Phoenix.
Tom Thib was on our coaching staff when we signed a walking Kurt Thomas
on the Knicks in 1998-99 season.

It is not a conspiracy or theory that Walsh and Dantoni is not on the same-
page. Walsh had to know about the "fued" of Dantoni/Marbury in Phoenix.
The sports media started an episode about it as early as June 2008.
Look at all the new players and 10 day contract players Walsh put on the
roster that Dantoni DNP without giving them a steady chance to mesh with
the same players or any players (its well over 10 new players).

Jefferies was never the best defensive player on the Knicks.
Jefferies missing so many open layups made him the Knicks worst offensive
player in the history of the Knicks. Winning the crown from Charles Smith.
It was assumed Jefferies was a Defensive player. But us Knick fans new both
JJ were a MLE "RED-FLAG" to FIRE Isiah asap.

Balkman is a great role-player off the bench to give u
rebounds/blocks/screening/decent passing/and put backs (Bowen).
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Tr1ll1on.... just incase u dont understand the above post

Dantoni is single-minded. as a boss he hires family/friends to do important
jobs they are not equip 2 do. Its like being force to hire your brother in law
that u hate.
Dan Dantoni had to be the worst coach in the summer league games.
Mike Dantoni is NOT open-minded or wise enough to keep a discipline roster
once they find out how clueless he is in so many areas.
Amare knows it was captain Matrix Marion who kept order in
practice/lockerroom/and on court.
:gony::agreed::gony:
 

TR1LL10N

Hannibal Lecter
Tr1ll1on..... being clueless of the Knicks is not as bad as u think it is, u
should accept it with pride. Bigger people than
u like Layden/Isiah/Walsh/Lenny Wilkins/Larry Brown/and celebrity coach
Dantoni are all accepting their cluelessness of the Knicks and its
organization with pride.
u have to excuse Kiya, he have been a big pessimistic Knick fan since 1999
when the Knicks fired GM Ernie Grunfield (an ex-player/ex-coach/ex-GM of
the Knicks organization).
Two years after the firing of GM Ernie our best headcoach JVG quit with alot
of our great coaching-staff quiting alongside of coach JVG. This is how ex-
player Herb Williams became assistant headcoach of the Knicks the day after
his player contract expired.
The Knicks owner and all of the GM's he has hired since GM Ernie have done
nothing to build or replace the big coaching-staff that Pat Riley put into
place to take us to the FINALS (twice).

We have 10 young athletic players on the 2010-11 new roster, these young
players could improve their performance by meshin with their teammates on
either offense/defense in a uptempo or halfcourt setting if we had the
"coaches" to make them stick to the plan.
It is obvious as a quack from a duck we will need a big man coach on the
bench yelling guidance for the signing of Euro-player 7.0 C-Mozgov switch to
the NBA league, where the rules, tactics of oponents, and expectation of his
teammates will be alot different from what he is used to. The Knicks dont
have anyone on their coaching-staff that qualify for that job for a NCAA
bigman. I dont recall them hiring anyone who speak fluent russian/english
either.

u can boast about Dantoni's record and success in Phoenix while leaving out
Phoenix Marbury/Marion/Joe Johnson/Chambers were a playoff team when
Dantoni was an assistant coach for the Denver Nuggets.
u can also leave out all of the veteran players experience in the
(Western Conference of the) starting 6 men in Dantoni's first full season
as headcoach of the Phoenix Suns.
Dantoni not wanting GM Kerr to hire defensive coach Tom Thib, plus wanting
defensive C/F-Kurt Thomas off the roster during the same offseason, which
was the big talk in Phoenix during Dantoni's last season in Phoenix.
Tom Thib was on our coaching staff when we signed a walking Kurt Thomas
on the Knicks in 1998-99 season.

It is not a conspiracy or theory that Walsh and Dantoni is not on the same-
page. Walsh had to know about the "fued" of Dantoni/Marbury in Phoenix.
The sports media started an episode about it as early as June 2008.
Look at all the new players and 10 day contract players Walsh put on the
roster that Dantoni DNP without giving them a steady chance to mesh with
the same players or any players (its well over 10 new players).

Jefferies was never the best defensive player on the Knicks.
Jefferies missing so many open layups made him the Knicks worst offensive
player in the history of the Knicks. Winning the crown from Charles Smith.
It was assumed Jefferies was a Defensive player. But us Knick fans new both
JJ were a MLE "RED-FLAG" to FIRE Isiah asap.

Balkman is a great role-player off the bench to give u
rebounds/blocks/screening/decent passing/and put backs (Bowen).

10 Punch KO of Kyiawoman

(I will use bold letters since you are so fond of them)

1. I am certainly not clueless about the Knicks or the NBA in general. That my conspiracy theory spouting, Darko and Balkman daydreaming friend is all YOU. I am glad you can be proud of your shortcomings and feel comfortable in your ignorant skin.

2. D'ant became coach of the Suns and took them from a 29-53 record to 62-20 the very next year. That is the single greatest turnaround in NBA history. He took the Suns to back to back western confrence finals appearances and won 50+ in four straight seasons. He helped turn Nash from a above average PG into an MVP caliber and future hall of famer. He took a young STAT and molded him into a dominant big while making him the focal point of a high octane offense.

3. The Suns could have won a ring had some things gone their way. They were in the West and up against Duncan and a Spurs dynasty. They faced injuries and suspensions that all played a part in stopping them just short of their goal. Riley and then JVG faced similar situations with the Knicks yet I am confident you would have either back as coach.

4. European record as coach (pasted for you to be less ignorant): He remained for four seasons, from 1990 to 1994, leading the club to the 1992 European Championship Final Four and 1993 Korac Cup. He was then chosen to coach Benetton Treviso, another major Italian basketball club. During his tenure (1994–1997), the team captured the Cup of Europe and Coppa Italia (in 1995) and won the domestic league title in 1996–97. Coach D’Antoni's Italian teams went to the playoffs each season, and he was twice voted the league’s Coach of the Year. In 2001, D'Antoni returned to Italy for a second stint as the coach of Benetton Treviso. In his one season back in Europe, he led the team to a 28–8 record, a league championship and 2002 Euroleague Final Four, coaching a team filled with many former NBA stars.

5. D'ant helped lead Team USA to gold and was credited for the much improved and efficient offense over previous years.

6. D'ant took on the Knicks job knowing full well that Walsh was planning a 2 year salary dump and rebuild project. He took the job knowing his reputation and win/loss record would take a hit. Knowledgeable fans knew and appreciated this sacrifice and understand that until this year he did not have a competent squad capable of executing his system or winning consistently. You and the other ignorant crybabies ignore these facts and want to crucify him to perpetuate your self admitted pessimism that started in 1999.

7. That Suns team you boasted about that included Marbury (having a career year) got ousted in the first round. D'ant could have easily coached Zbo/Crawford to a playoff birth but that was not the plan.

8. Mozgov speaks English you ignorant tool. Further your hatred for blinds your objectivity about our coaching staff. Afterall D'ant took STAT a young bigman and coached him into a perennial all-star so your point about needing a bigman coach is laughable.

9. Jared Jefferies was indeed our best defender over the last few years and guarded every position from the 1-5. I could careless if you disagree but I will point out that you are ignoring the thrust of his quote which directly counters your ignorant assertions.

10. Having an aging 6'10 PF in Kurt Thomas playing center in a high octane offense proves nothing about D'ant. He was a mismatched player for the system and one guy can't make a team play great defense.



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P.S. Refering to yourself in the 3rd person only makes you sound more like a d-bag so I would suggest you put that and the rest of your bolded/red fonted inaccurate talking points to rest.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Seriously, I wish people would at least skim a few posts before replying to a topic and feeling like a dumb ass.

Don't be a blind follower. Get some facts and do a little research. Hell, look up a few posts and most likely you'll find that your argument has already been posted and debunked.

btw trillion auto wins all debates with his sig


u need 2 skim through more than a few post.
u should go to the Phoenix Board and find out how headcoach Gentry
swept the Spurs in a series.

u need to know why the Knicks hired celebrity coach Dantoni, and why owner
Dolan wanted to hire Isiah as a consultant after the last star FA had signed.
I did not witness any decent FA lining up to be sign by the Knicks on July 1st,
when we had so many Starter jobs open and available for the FA market.

Or do u actually want to believe and think the next team under the
salary cap wouldve took a chance on paying Amare's knees above $85M
when u had unsign FA Bosh/Boozer/Lee as 20-10 option too? the Phoenix
Suns organization was skeptical on paying Amare above 17M per for 6 years,
so they knew something.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
10 Punch KO of TR1LLwoman

Dont u think u r going 2 far
u have to be one single-minded stuborn person TR1LLWOMAN!
no body cares about how many NCAA Championships/CBA
Championship/Euro-League Championships a coach has won once he
coached a 32 and 29 win season in the NBA (except u).
Chicago beginning headcoach Del Negro had a worst team than the Knicks,
but coached 10 times better than Dantoni two seasons in a row.

Coach Frank Johnson was fired the 12th game of the 29 win season for
putting Joe Johnson in the starting lineup over Penny Hardaway, Penny
screamed and cried to the media throughout all 12 games (4-8 start).
Mike Dantoni coached the next 70 games of the 29 season as the interim
headcoach.
Joe Johnson became the 6th man before Dantoni join the Phoenix
organization. Headcoach Frank Johnson final starters were Joe
Johnson/Marion/Amare. The same starters that took Dantoni to the WCF with
Jim Jackson/Nash. Dantoni only had more NBA experience than Amare/Barbosa on the Phoenix 2004-5 Roster.
 

iJoe

Rotation player
u need 2 skim through more than a few post.
u should go to the Phoenix Board and find out how headcoach Gentry
swept the Spurs in a series.

u need to know why the Knicks hired celebrity coach Dantoni, and why owner
Dolan wanted to hire Isiah as a consultant after the last star FA had signed.
I did not witness any decent FA lining up to be sign by the Knicks on July 1st,
when we had so many Starter jobs open and available for the FA market.

Or do u actually want to believe and think the next team under the
salary cap wouldve took a chance on paying Amare's knees above $85M
when u had unsign FA Bosh/Boozer/Lee as 20-10 option too? the Phoenix
Suns organization was skeptical on paying Amare above 17M per for 6 years,
so they knew something.

First of all why do heck do you keep going on and on and on and on about Celebrity Coach Dantoni????? He's certainly popular among players which is a great thing as they finally would want to come here. The only other "celebrity coaches" I can think of are Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, and maybe Popovich and Doc Rivers. You only become a well known coach by winning. So why keep pointing that as a negative?

Personally I think coaches get way too much credit as well as too much blame. The NBA is a players league. If you don't have good players or suffer through injuries, you lose. Its that simple. Why do you think Popovich always deflects praise by saying hes got Tim Duncan. Btw the Suns won with Gentry against the Spurs because they had better players this year. The Spurs had a gimpy tony parker/ginobili and still gave them some trouble.

If you want proof, look for the Coach of the Year curse.

2005?06: Avery Johnson, Dallas Mavericks, 60?22 (Fired April 30, 2008)
2006?07: Sam Mitchell, Toronto Raptors, 47?35 (Fired December 3, 2008)
2007?08: Byron Scott, New Orleans Hornets, 56?26 (Fired November 12, 2009)
2008?09: Mike Brown, Cleveland Cavaliers, 66?16 (Fired May 24, 2010)
2009?10: Scott Brooks, Oklahoma City Thunder, 50?32 (???)

The media always votes for winners and doesn't take into account whether the coach is actually the reason for the wins or not.

Some coaches have brilliant systems and awesome plans for defense. However, its all up to the players to actually have passion and learn those systems.

Lets make this simple;

1. A great coach like Phil Jackson and Popovich can push a talented team over the top to win a tough series and/or championship.

2. A mediocre coach such as Sam Mitchell and Mike Brown can't adjust to a 7 game series and end up losing their players' respect. They still win a lot of games due to their team having a ton of talent and win COY!

3. ANY COACH WITH BAD PLAYERS LOSES. Media and fans all go with the crowd and bash the coach because they are the easiest ones to blame. It can't be the GM's fault for picking dumb trades or players being more interested in stats then winning right?

Dantoni has an great record in the playoffs with the Suns. Their only losses came against championship teams that had to fight tooth and nail to beat them. Is he the greatest coach in the world? Absolutely not. He certainly has some weaknesses. However, you can't expect to win without good players and this year will be a great testing point. Expect this to be a make or break year where Dantoni can finally prove himself yet again for all those naysayers who constantly ride the seesaw of what the media portrays
 

TR1LL10N

Hannibal Lecter
Dont u think u r going 2 far
u have to be one single-minded stuborn person TR1LLWOMAN!
no body cares about how many NCAA Championships/CBA
Championship/Euro-League Championships a coach has won once he
coached a 32 and 29 win season in the NBA (except u).
Chicago beginning headcoach Del Negro had a worst team than the Knicks,
but coached 10 times better than Dantoni two seasons in a row.

Coach Frank Johnson was fired the 12th game of the 29 win season for
putting Joe Johnson in the starting lineup over Penny Hardaway, Penny
screamed and cried to the media throughout all 12 games (4-8 start).
Mike Dantoni coached the next 70 games of the 29 season as the interim
headcoach.
Joe Johnson became the 6th man before Dantoni join the Phoenix
organization. Headcoach Frank Johnson final starters were Joe
Johnson/Marion/Amare. The same starters that took Dantoni to the WCF with
Jim Jackson/Nash. Dantoni only had more NBA experience than Amare/Barbosa on the Phoenix 2004-5 Roster.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so thank you for taking my joke about you and proving it was so effective that you needed to copy me. Now what you need to get through your think conspiracy theory creating head is that D'ant coached a Knick team that was shedding salary and not trying to win!!!!! Each time the Knicks got on a win streak we traded our players for less talented players with short or expiring contracts. How hard is that for you to understand!!!!?? You are a d-bag pessimist and I could care less what you think at this point...3/4's of this site knows what an idiot you are as you embarrass yourself in almost every thread. Keep crying and praying we sign Darko, Balkman and Earl friggan Barron!!! What a moron! :teeth:

P.S. The fact that you could not respond to my points should be a clue that your assertions and knowledge of basketball are sophomoric at best...
 

nyk_nyk

All Star
There really should be no more conversations about this. We have a much better team from last season and Dantoni will have to prove his worth now. Let's just wait and sit back and watch what happens. If the team struggles then we can all bash Dantoni.

Expectations are high this time around.
 

jimkcchief88

All Star
Dont u think u r going 2 far
u have to be one single-minded stuborn person TR1LLWOMAN!
no body cares about how many NCAA Championships/CBA
Championship/Euro-League Championships a coach has won once he
coached a 32 and 29 win season in the NBA (except u).
Chicago beginning headcoach Del Negro had a worst team than the Knicks,
but coached 10 times better than Dantoni two seasons in a row.

Coach Frank Johnson was fired the 12th game of the 29 win season for
putting Joe Johnson in the starting lineup over Penny Hardaway, Penny
screamed and cried to the media throughout all 12 games (4-8 start).
Mike Dantoni coached the next 70 games of the 29 season as the interim
headcoach.
Joe Johnson became the 6th man before Dantoni join the Phoenix
organization. Headcoach Frank Johnson final starters were Joe
Johnson/Marion/Amare. The same starters that took Dantoni to the WCF with
Jim Jackson/Nash. Dantoni only had more NBA experience than Amare/Barbosa on the Phoenix 2004-5 Roster.

Haha!!! Funny stuff here. D'ant hasn't sniffed an NBA title, but TRILL is worried about CBA, Euroleague, Korea, Africa, maybe even the moon. How many titles has D'ant won coaching MIDDLE SCHOOLERS TRILL??? D'ant will be a much "better" coach if we get MELO. THE END.
 

TR1LL10N

Hannibal Lecter
Haha!!! Funny stuff here. D'ant hasn't sniffed an NBA title, but TRILL is worried about CBA, Euroleague, Korea, Africa, maybe even the moon. How many titles has D'ant won coaching MIDDLE SCHOOLERS TRILL??? D'ant will be a much "better" coach if we get MELO. THE END.

Thought u had me on ignore Jimqueef....my skeet put that on Chief.

Now if you want to have a debate how about you respond to my numerous points instead of making some juvenile attempt at an argument by distorting one small slice of my overall argument.
 

JayJ44

Starter
That was like watching the retarded kid in school get beat up. Entertaining but sad.

:lol:

Some ignorant people on TV occasionally say D'antoni doesn't preach defense, and 90% of fans believe it and repeat it like sheep. They have absolutely no proof that D'antoni doesn't coach defense, and all indications are that he makes a great deal of effort on coaching defense.

We have horrible defensive players. Bad defensive players=bad defensive team, I didn't think I would have to state the obvious like that, but some people just don't get it.
 
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