The Official Carlos Arroyo Thread

metrocard

Legend
its a pity walsh and mr. pringles cant look beyond Arroyo's past woes and give him a shot

and Im not vouching for the guy cause he's a homey... fact is this guy would be perfect in the SSOL.. hes built for that type of offense

Co-sign 100%.
This is the best system for a PG of Arroyo skills.
Anyone who believes Arroyo isn't a good fit because he's 30, which is actually a prime age is a FOOL.

Duhon is a back up...Arroyo can give you 28-32 efficient minutes.
Arroyo is cocky...but he isn't going to break up a locker room and was one of the best locker room guys in the NBA. Guys like Billups and Grant Hill loved Arroyo.
Whatever...

MSG, good reply...Knicks dont take advantage of overseas free agents and we have to settle for scrubs....

Arroyo/Duhon
Hughes/Douglas

is pretty much an upgrade...we need a PG, back up or starter.
Nash/Kidd/Sessions arent coming to NY
Miller to NY isn't official.

Whats left out there?
Lets be realistic guys.
 

portega1968

El Cacique
reports are that Arroyo will sign with an NBA team in the next week

but rumors are not associated to the Knicks

if not NYK, it would be nice to see him get a shot with teams needing an experienced PG like Portland, Sactown... maybe backup Stuckey or Aaron Brooks
 

metrocard

Legend
reports are that Arroyo will sign with an NBA team in the next week

but rumors are not associated to the Knicks

if not NYK, it would be nice to see him get a shot with teams needing an experienced PG like Portland, Sactown... maybe backup Stuckey or Aaron Brooks

Lakers could use Arroyo.
 

GetRealistic

Starter
Since the Lakers are looking for a point guard and have seemingly given up on Jordan Farmer we should consider bringing him in... He's a good up tempo point guard that has one year left on his deal and is realitively cheap. It'd be like the Darko aquistion. It'd be all reward because if it doesn't work out he's gone. The Lakers want Nate so how about something like Nate for Farmar and a draft pick... Just an idea.

As far as Arroyo goes i'll pass.
 

metrocard

Legend
I thought Farmar was going to be solid in the NBA..he was made hyped as a high school prospect...and in UCLA too.
 

Scribbles

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Up, up, and away....
 

GetRealistic

Starter
I'm looking at the dudes play on the court not his physical appearance... But whatever floats your boat my man..

Not that getting Farmar is likely but he's far my talented then Arroyo, but i really don't feel we need another point guard right now since TD seems to be a serviceable backup point. I'd rather add a legit SG. I like Wilson Chandler but he's simply not a prototypical two guard and i'm not sold on Morris Almond.
 

metrocard

Legend
I'm looking at the dudes play on the court not his physical appearance... But whatever floats your boat my man..

Not that getting Farmar is likely but he's far my talented then Arroyo, but i really don't feel we need another point guard right now since TD seems to be a serviceable backup point. I'd rather add a legit SG. I like Wilson Chandler but he's simply not a prototypical two guard and i'm not sold on Morris Almond.

Arroyo is better than Farmar in everything.
He has the stats, the resume, and the talent/skils and experience to easily prove that.

We need a point guard.
Duhon is a back up
TD is a back up.

Arroyo has experience being a starter at Utah/Orlando...honestly Arroyo can do what Nash did for Phoneix, without the 3pt shooting.

Arroyo dribbles a lot, but so did Nash.

guys like Nash and Arroyo know how to keep their dribble because they have EXCELLENT ball handling skills.

Duhon's ball handling is really poor and stops this offense from doing what it should do.

Guys like Arroyo, Alston, Nash, Calderon, all these great ball handlers FIT because getting assist in this system isn't that hard. Didn't Nate get 14 in a season? Duhon's assist numbers overrate him as a passer/PG.

I'm telling you right, Arroyo would be a steal and especially at a cheap price.

If we dont keep Nate, we must obtain Carlos. MUST. Especially since we failed on Rubio/Nash.

Arroyo (13 pgg, 8.8 assist)
Chandler(16 ppg 6 rebs)
Gallinari(18 pgg 3 assist 4 rebs)
Lee(17 ppg 12 rebs)
Hill(9.5 ppg 7 rebs)

Bench
Harrington(19 ppg, 5 rebs)
Darko(5 ppg/5 rpg/1.5 blk
Duhon(7 ppg/4.5 assist/39% 3pt)
Douglas(11 ppg, 3 rebs, 3.8 assist)

9 man rotation = good
Everyone plays a role.

Arroyo - handling the rock, pick/roll, dishing, scoring, breaking the defense
Chandler - slasher, best athlete, inside/outside game, size advantage
Gallinari - efficient shooter/scorer/passer...point forward
Lee - He can SHOOT, shoot a high percentage, top 3 rebounder in the NBA, good passer, great hustle and can play at a high tempo
Hill - good rebounder, shot blocking help for Lee. Can also shoot which will spread our offense out and allow us to run and gun.


Harrington - 6th man...best scorer on the team
Duhon - back up PG/defensive specialist
Douglas - back up combo guard
Darko - true center/shot blocker

Outcast:
Hughes
Curry(hopefully traded)
Jefferies (hopefully traded)
Sene
Wilcox
Hunter(cut)
Crawford(cut)

I see Sene, Wilcox and Hughes filling in the rotation incase of injury.
 
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NYKnicks15

Starter
Carlos Arroyo again... okay, i have nothing against carols arroyo. solid player, good floor general, good size, above average passing ability, around average defender, thirty years old..

the only reason the thirty year old thing bothers me for someone like Carlos compared to Andre Miller is because Andre has played the NBA game and succeeded for years Carlos not so much and then for him to jump back into the game and get off the rust is not worth the risk.

We are better off with Duhon who is younger, a backup just like Arroyo should be at this rate and dont have to go through any contract negotations plus we already know what we are getting with him. nothing special but not a hassle.

and i can honestly say the only reason we are talking Carlos Arroyo right now is because he is puerto rican. thats the only reason i talk about Gallinari with high hope.. because he is italian haha
 

metrocard

Legend
Carlos Arroyo again... okay, i have nothing against carols arroyo. solid player, good floor general, good size, above average passing ability, around average defender, thirty years old..

the only reason the thirty year old thing bothers me for someone like Carlos compared to Andre Miller is because Andre has played the NBA game and succeeded for years Carlos not so much and then for him to jump back into the game and get off the rust is not worth the risk.

We are better off with Duhon who is younger, a backup just like Arroyo should be at this rate and dont have to go through any contract negotations plus we already know what we are getting with him. nothing special but not a hassle.

and i can honestly say the only reason we are talking Carlos Arroyo right now is because he is puerto rican. thats the only reason i talk about Gallinari with high hope.. because he is italian haha

What rust off? Arroyo is more improved than ever.
Why does age make someone better?
Arroyo is a better overall talent and superior to Duhon, more sucessful, experienced and skilled.

Duhon is very limited, offensively he's the Ben Wallace of PG's and his defense isn't good as advertise (poor offensive players automatically get labeled as good defenders)

Only reason why we're talking about Arroyo is because he's a free agent PG with experience, talent and skills to produce good numbers in this offense.
The reason why we talk about Gallo is because he's a Knick.
Puerto Rican and Italian, thats cool...athletes we could look up to.
But its pretty damn foolish to deny the talent and skills.
Arroyo is IMPROVED and has a bunch of new moves in his arsenal that will make him a bigger threat in the NBA...his shooting/defense/passing/ball handling/scoring instincts have increase.
 

JayJ44

Starter
He's going to the Bulls:
According to multiple sources, former NBA point guard Carlos Arroyo is on the verge of returning to the league after a very successful stint overseas. Since leaving the Orlando Magic, Arroyo guided Maccabi Tel Aviv last season to an Israeli Premier League Championship and was named MVP of the Finals. Now, according to El Nueva Dia, Arroyo is close to signing a one-year contract with the Chicago Bulls.
While his agent, Leon Rose, is working out Arroyo's next deal, Arroyo himself is playing with the Puerto Rican National Team in San Juan, in the FIBA Americas Championship.
"There are some opportunities that we're considering. Negotiating a contract is a pretty slow process," Arroyo told ESPN. "But my focus is totally on Puerto Rico's national team. My mind and heart needs to be here."
There are also rumors out there that have Arroyo's camp talking with the Milwaukee Bucks and Boston Celtics, though both teams have denied any contact whatsoever.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13702
 

metrocard

Legend
****y it if ya'll think Im biased.. but Carlos Arroyo and Mike Dantoni would be a SSOL match made in heaven!!!

It isn't bias at all.
Arroyo is very effective with the pick and roll and in a full tempo game...Arroyo is the anti duhon...he actually creates opportunities...a wizard with the ball.

Arroyo/Duhon backcourt would be really effective...both are good passers, Duhon the superior defender...Arroyo the superior ball handler...split their minutes 28-21 minutes each ...get a cheap quality PG for nothing.
 

metrocard

Legend
Heat have won 5 of the last 6 games with him starting. He is a great ball handler and distributor, plus his defense has been great. Take a close look at how good he is defending. In addition, his Ast/To ratio is among the best in the NBA so far this season:

The actual (as of Dic/26) leading PGs in AST/TO ratio of the East:




1- Jason Williams, ORL 4.28

2- Carlos Arroyo, MIA 3.60

3- Rajon Rondo, BOS 3.49

4-Mike Bibby, ATL 3.35

5-Chris Duhon, NYK 3.33

6-Luke Ridnour, MIL 3.24

7-Willie Green, PHI 3.13

8-Jeff Teague, ATL 3.06



Knicks passed on Carlos Arroyo...this is as bad as passing on Lopez.
 

knickzrulezH20

Sexy Stud
Heat have won 5 of the last 6 games with him starting. He is a great ball handler and distributor, plus his defense has been great. Take a close look at how good he is defending. In addition, his Ast/To ratio is among the best in the NBA so far this season:

The actual (as of Dic/26) leading PGs in AST/TO ratio of the East:




1- Jason Williams, ORL 4.28

2- Carlos Arroyo, MIA 3.60

3- Rajon Rondo, BOS 3.49

4-Mike Bibby, ATL 3.35

5-Chris Duhon, NYK 3.33

6-Luke Ridnour, MIL 3.24

7-Willie Green, PHI 3.13

8-Jeff Teague, ATL 3.06



Knicks passed on Carlos Arroyo...this is as bad as passing on Lopez.



chris dudu is on that list??? wtfffff
 
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