He's looking like a tall skinny kid that will probably get abused and hurt before Preseason.
Knicks fans are just going to love that. That he couldn't play in Summer League because he hurt himself during those extremely grueling NBA workouts, oh brother. :boohoo:His brother said he's questionable for game 1 so lets hope that's the only game he misses, can't wait to see him against better talent than he plays with over there in Spain. BTW, did you see him block Mardy Collins shot in this video, I was wondering what happened to him since he left the NBA.He already is hurt and may not play in his Summer League debut and could sit it out completely and remember he couldn't complete his full workout in front of us. Isola said the kid told him he only worked out for about 5-10min in front of Melo before he shut it down.
Imo, The Euro league is just not impressive enough; it’s hard to really judge BBall talent in this league because it’s where the NBA rejects and wannabe’s go to play (and sometimes dominate). I remember a time when the college players would represent USA in the Basketball Olympics…I’m sure they still can. As of now…The jury is still out on this kid…We’ll see what this youngin can do in the summer league. We’ll see if he can stay healthy enough to bang with the most talented b-ballers that all seem to be stronger and hungrier.
Yeah this whole notion that the draft got confusing at pick 4 is horse manure. It got odd for us because of Phil's desire to be Triangle Centric and him not being able to adjust to the new age style of players.
Mudiay appears to be a double/double(pts/ast) guy out the gate, I mean but who needs that in today's game at the point guard position?
Real Ny Baller: Good post because as you went down the line with other prospects that fit Phil's TEAM game criteria you proved there were some even more so with what they provide elsewhere.
If it were Ainge/Morey with pick 4 in the 24th hour wanting to trade down(As Phil was doing) I bet they get us something better than what we got!
I do like the fact #kporzee appears to be a player who can play with high efficiency, at least I'm hoping he does. He is skilled but....what I don't like about #kporzee he appears a little soft, timid, he has almost zero alpha to him. Let me say this loud and clear........
IF A PLAYER HAS NO ALPHADOG IN HIM....I DON'T CARE WHAT SKILLSETS HE POSSESSES, HE'LL NEVER REACH HIS POTENTIAL.
This is one of the main rebuttals as to why we picked him over others....his supposed unlimited ceiling.
Start naming All-Time greats who had no Alpha?
Yes #kporzee should from day 1 he steps on the court believing in his own abilities, should respectfully challenge Melo's rights to this team
Is Porzingis any more timid than Tim Duncan? Not sure Porzingis is timid at all for that matter.
Tim Duncan had inner alpha and really was rock Day 1, so much so that D-Rob jumped on his back to a chip.
What I don't want to see is #kporzee taking backseats to Jerian and the gang in SL.
@ SSJ4Wingzero, I?ve heard tons of Analyists thought the same thing about Gallo, *wink*
I?m going off of what was available to watch as far as his game is concern. I don?t rely on Euro-league footage when stating my opinions, because this is not the EL. You were hoping and putting faith in the pick without having much insight and footage of his game. I don?t do that. There was nothing serious to view of him?not until recently. I can think for myself when viewing someone?s game. Only a moron will believe and regurgitate someone else?s opinion, and put blind faith in what he cannot analysis for himself. Plus they have a tendency to over react, get frustrated, and try to offend/insult others when they can?t really support their own argument with details. Maybe if they actually did their own investigation instead of going off of what others have to say on the subject?the outcome would be more in their favor. This is the case we face here.
Yes I?m watching the summer league games?not just Knick games. Are you seeing what the guys I?ve mentioned are doing in SL? I doubt it, simply because they are all playing well, some even better than Porzingis.
What is Porzingis doing better than the other guys I mentioned? Post those opinions now?don?t wait for another game to be played, cross your fingers, and then come back here to respond. IMO, from what I see NOW. He has the height. A long thin frame and should get us at least 2 blocks a game (like Stein).
Stein?s numbers/stats are just about the same as Porzingis, but Stein?s a much better defender with clear offensive potential. Oubre is having a great SL and Deven Booker had 18 and 6 rebounds last night. Are you watching the SL games or just Knick games? What did the zinger have last night?
We need to run plays for zinger? Well, how about he finds his way in the post (like a big man) instead of the outside (like a little man). Were we running plays for the other guys? Kristop is better fitted to play down low but I fear his body isn?t ready to commit to that just yet. The triangle will make him a useless player if he can?t drain his shots. I want to see more post play from him on both sides of the court. I?m not totally convinced, but the kid did put a lil smile on my face.
Porzingis has potential; I already said I like his jumpshot, his hook shot, and his desire to take it to the rack. I already said I like his footwork and arms span for defensive purposes. And, I don?t think he?s timid at all, just that his frame may not be able to keep up with his desire to bang down low. This is also a trash talking league, his wit and focus will be tested. Will he get suckered into playing physical, or will he keep the thin frame, upgrade to a finesse player and let his game do the talking for him.
So far, Grant and Ndour are the real highlights of the Knicks summer league. Kristops is playing ok, If he can keep his long arms extended without picking up fouls I?m happy. The real completion starts in preseason?when your strengths and weaknesses are exposed. I want to see how he enforces his game and will on others, and if he can adapt when players figure him out? This is what the jury wants to know.
Yeah Broadway, glad to see that someone gets it.
@htr10, Speaking for myself… the bulk of my essay’s are just clarifications to my original post in this thread. The replies to that post were made after we have gotten some much needed footage of Porzingis (mainly in SL). And... that there were other players out there that will mesh well with mello within and without this dated system… that will most likely disappear once Phil leaves here in about 2 to 3 years.
We all know how melo plays, and the guys I’ve mentioned will fit well with his playing style. For the triangle…Porzingis appears to be a good fit (logically). But we have very little on this guy to actually form an honest opinion on him. I/we do know the other guys I've mentioned.
This system never worked well without having the games most dominate players using it.
The league has evolved and I wanted players to go along with what we have on the team. You win more when you build around your player’s potential…not by trying to build up players to fit within an aged system. I’m not so sure if melo, the triangle, and Porzingis will mess well, not yet. But, I can easily imagine the players I’ve mentioned playing well with melo…no matter what system we’re playing under. It’s a simple read, just check the dates and the posting times to get a better understanding on how this discussion started and where it’s at now. I’m sure you’re figure it out after that...