NYK Trade Deadline Chatter

mafra

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The Knicks and Jazz have had exploratory conversations surrounding Obi Toppin, Evan Fournier, and draft pick compensation for Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt, league sources told HoopsHype.

As reported in a recent HoopsHype NBA notebook, Utah is seeking the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player. In these particular trade talks, Toppin would potentially be that equivalent for Vanderbilt with Utah seeking a potential first-round pick for taking on Fournier’s salary ($18.86 million next season and $19 million team option for 2024-25) and parting with Beasley, who has a $16.5 million team option for next season. Thus far, New York has been reluctant to attach a first-round pick to move off Fournier’s salary.

Beasley, who’s also drawn trade interest from the Cavaliers and Pelicans, told HoopsHype in an exclusive interview earlier this season that he’d like to remain in Utah and have the Jazz pick up his team option for next season.

Toppin previously came up in trade conversations over the summer during the Donovan Mitchelltrade negotiations between New York and Utah. Jazz executive Danny Ainge previously traded for Fournier while running the Celtics as well.

Knicks senior basketball advisor Gersson Rosashas been a staunch supporter of Beasley and Vanderbilt since he traded for both players in the same four-team deal and eventually signed Beasley to a four-year, $60 million deal and Vanderbilt to a three-year, $13.8 million contract with the Timberwolves. Ironically, while Beasley was meeting with the Timberwolves and on the verge of agreeing to his contract, the current Knicks regime led by Leon Rose called to express interest in signing him, league sources told HoopsHype.
 

Kiyaman

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I like the Knicks 2022-23 roster, it's only missing veteran Taj Gibson, and coach Mike Woodson from the Knicks depth being a 4th seed team in the East.
PG Veteran D.Rose, Brunson, and young McBride are Keepers
SG Veteran Fournier, plus Quickley and Grimes young 2-Way talented are Keepers
SF Barrett and Cam Reddish talent should be sharing the 48 minutes evenly
PF Randle got to go .. Obi Toppin and Hartenstein are Keepers
C MitchRob and young Sims are Keepers
Thats 6 guards, 5 forwards, and two centers mixing together throughout a 82 game season, without a Dog-House.

Did the Brooklyn Nets make the Dallas Mavs into a top contender in the West by trading them Kyrie ???
 
Kiya, I still don’t see what you see in this Knicks team.
Everybody must go outside of D.Rose and maybe Randle(if the offensive scheme can tailor to his ability).
This team isn’t a Championship team under no circumstances… None!!
Let’s kill Dr. Frankenstein and his monster and start over.
 

Kiyaman

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Wsup Dark .. The NBA have a lot of contenders this season in the West & East.
The Knicks started the 2022-23 season having 12 HUNGRY PLAYERS on the roster waiting to play in a lineup alongside of the Knicks new young PG Jalen Brunson who out-performed Donovan Mitchell in a playoff series last season. It's no longer about the Knicks players!
The decade of waiting for a standup NBA PG since Lin Sanity (2011) and Jason Kidd (2012) has finally arrived in the Knicks camp. We Knicks fans gave Leon Rose Four Stars for the Brunson signing.
However, not getting Donovan Mitchell over the long offseason news, plus the Barrett extension takes away 2 of those four stars.
The Knicks roster of players are no longer the problem, the Knicks head coach Thibs one on one offense/without any ball-movement, substitution, the 30 game Dog-House, and the 9/8 man rotation is the Knicks BIG problem.
Head coach Thibs has a career of only playing 9 or 8 man rotation in the regular season games.
In the Knicks playoff vs Hawks the Knicks were 1-1 using a 10 man rotation, Thibs took PG Payton out of the rotation to run a 9 man rotation which loss the next 3 games.
Coach Mike Woodson's 10 man (2 unit) rotation throughout the regular season won COY award in 2021 season.
Head coach Thibs 9/8 man rotation throughout the 2021-22 season finished with a 37-45 record as a 11 seed team in EAST.
 

mafra

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Knicks taking to Bulls about Zach LaVine. Talks broke off yesterday but are supposedly back on…
 

Kiyaman

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Knicks taking to Bulls about Zach LaVine. Talks broke off yesterday but are supposedly back on…

Ha Ha Ha .. Dolin is still unliked by the NBA ....
No NBA team are trading to the Knicks without Leon Rose giving up a first round draft pick.

I thought Kyrie would be the big CANCER in Brooklyn, but Keven Durant poor team leadership was the BIG cancer in Brooklyn Nets locker room. The Suns Monti & Chris Paul have a lot of work to do on replacing the defensive-players for Durant.

Kyrie's 24 pt win over the Clippers in his first game as a Dallas Mavs without Luka in the rotation says owner Cuban & head coach Kidd are going back to the WCF.


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Kiyaman

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Reddish for Josh Hart!!

Reddish for veteran Beverly playoff experience to go along side with veteran D.Rose leadership for a playoff run.
The Knicks trading Cam Reddish means the Knicks don't have anyone on the roster to defend opponents Tatum, Derozan, Butler, Kuzma, OG Anunoby, Wagner, and the Big SG in the EAST down the stretch of games.
 
Reddish for veteran Beverly playoff experience to go along side with veteran D.Rose leadership for a playoff run.
The Knicks trading Cam Reddish means the Knicks don't have anyone on the roster to defend opponents Tatum, Derozan, Butler, Kuzma, OG Anunoby, Wagner, and the Big SG in the EAST down the stretch of games.
What else is new that they don't have anyone to defend those players.

How about the Net's cleaning house and the Knicks staying pat with their team? Keep D. Rose and get rid of everyone else!!
 

Kiyaman

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It's becoming a FACT .. NBA Teams expect a first round pick from the Knicks in any trade.
And the 2023 first round pick the Knicks gave up on the Hart for Reddish trade says, "TANKING!".

The Dinwiddie Nets again, beating the Chi-Town Bulls tonight 116-105
 

mafra

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LaVine would’ve been nice but not at the cost of 2/3 what a Utah wanted for DM.

Knicks are 30-26…they have PHI, Utah, Nets and ATL before the ASB. They’re 4-3 last 7, when I said even a 5-6 run going into all star weekend would be about what we should expect/hope for.

If they split next 4, they end up 6-5. Having 35 or 36 wins going into the week off… with 22 remaining…. Folks, we’re talking about a potential 45-50 win team. And a YOUNG team with plenty of assets.

I’m surprised they didn’t scoop up a Bones Hyland for that cheap price…. But Malone probably warned Thibbs about potential character Me-1st issues?

I thought a shrewd GM finds a way to add an Allen or Eric Gordon or be bold and grab a Zach Lavine and make a run this year. At the least, it’s equity you bank for next year. Brunson, Lavine and Randle would’ve been worth sacrificing RJ or QG/Obi combo.

But, this team should be battling somebody in Game 4 R1. We have to be realistic with what the options were. Leon failed the franchise again. But at least he built a team that’s not entirely pathetic. He’s just been ultra timid to make a mistake. And his free agent blunder of 2 years ago really hampered matters

2 first rounders or 1 first and 4 second rounders not worth Hart, especially when almost as much gets you DM. But it’s not like he’s saddled with Ben Simmons.
 

Kiyaman

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Who minutes will Hart get ???
McBride?
Grimes?
Quickley?
Will coach Thibs put 5 bench-players in a 2nd unit lineup on the court this season?
It won him COY !!!
 

Kiyaman

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The Knicks management haven't been on social-media the past 4 years, if they had they would've seen over a million Trade Randle post.
The Knicks management haven't watched the Knicks past 15 games of a inconsistent no-defense RJ Barrett.
The decision-making the Knicks management has been making are the same as owner James Dolan.
Especially when the Knicks have a group of players that could make it to the 2nd round.
And Cam Reddish 2-Way performance was one of those players.
The Knicks coaching has become personal between Head-coach vs players.
 

mafra

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The New York Knicks also expressed interest in acquiring Bones Hyland, and Cam Reddish was dangled in trade talks before Reddish was dealt to Portland, league sources told HoopsHype.

This bothers me, bc Bones is better than a bunch of second rounders. Shot selection and defense are issues, but Bones Hyland was worth a roll of the dice.
 
How do you now go after Andrew Wiseman??
Why keep MRob if Wisemen was available??

Wiseman is a player that you could rebuild a team around. The Knicks are 4 years too late in rebuilding around the RIGHT players. None on the current roster is worth building or rebuilding around.
••How do you make up the 4 years lost on mistakes??
 
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