Who is the best player on the Knicks?

RunningJumper

Super Moderator
I think it's Rose, but he can't play as many minutes as when he was younger, but I still think there's a case to be made that he's the best player on the team. He's consistent, is a leader, gives the team a huge boost when they're down, and he's clutch.
 

metrocard

Legend
Rose is our most consistent offensive player and best on court leader. He controls the pace of the game.

I believe RJ is our best overall two way player. Last season showed RJ's potential. I think RJ will break out again like he did last season after the All-Star break and will average 22ppg on 40%3pt shooting with 6 rpg and 4apg. Quote me on this.

He has great footwork and timing defensively. I like how he fights over screens and at least tries on defense unlike Fournier/Randle.
 

mafra

Legend
Rose is the best individual offensive player we have, but is limited to about 20-25 minutes based on his age.

RJ best 2-way player and best hope for future.

Randle is the soul of team, it?s spirit.

IQ/OBI now the dynamic young energy duo.

Noel and Gibson and AB are wily vets
 

mafra

Legend
By Jordan Cohn, Audacy Sports

The last time that Derrick Rose was a full-time starter was when he came to the lowly 2016-17 Knicks, scoring 18 points per game alongside Carmelo Anthony and Kristaps Porzingis in the final year of the Melo era in MSG. Since then, he's been as good as anyone in the role of the bench scorer, the sixth man, the jolt of energy that comes into the game and pours in basket after basket on an unsuspecting second unit.

Could he become a starter once again, however, in his age-33 season on a contending team?

There's a little bit of speculation floating around that the starting lineup, as currently constructed, might not last for much longer. The stats help to paint the picture of why that might be the case, as does the team's 2-5 skid over their last seven.

The aforementioned Rose makes a strong case to be a moving piece if such a change were to occur, and the statistics help to paint this picture as well. One advanced metric in particular ? FiveThirtyEight's all-encompassing RAPTOR, or Robust Algorithm (using) Player Tracking (and) On/Off Ratings ? shows the veteran's production in about as positive a light as possible. It should come as a surprise to absolutely nobody that Nikola Jokic is leading the league in total RAPTOR, with a +14.2 rating. But in second place, and above names like Stephen Curry, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Kevin Durant, is none other than Rose at +12.0. Another metric that's probably more familiar to you, WAR, has Rose tied for fifth in the NBA with Paul George and Miles Bridges at 2.2. Pretty much however you frame it, Rose has been a more effective and dynamic player for the Knicks than many of the starters, at least based on box score statistics.


Rose ranks second on the team in points per 36 minutes (20.4), trailing only Julius Randle, and leads in some other key categories, like Value Over Replacement Player (0.4) and box plus/minus (3.3). He's also doing this while landing outside the top five in minutes player per game, which shows just how impactful he's been when on the court. Whether or not he gets an uptick in playing time is something that will be worth watching, but it might not be the worst idea to make a change sooner rather than later, especially if these statistical trends continue.

https://www.audacy.com/sports/nba/advanced-stat-ranks-derrick-rose-second-in-the-whole-nba


StatMuse
@statmuse
Knicks +/- from best to worst:

+110 ? Derrick Rose (3rd in NBA)
+67 ? Obi Toppin
+67 ? Immanuel Quickley
+43 ? Alec Burks
+32 ? Nerlens Noel
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-36 ? Evan Fournier
-44 ? Julius Randle
-45 ? RJ Barrett
-52 ? Mitchell Robinson
-89 ? Kemba Walker (11th worst in NBA)
 

KingCharles34

All Star
Im a bit concerned about Rose this year but i would still go with him. He was amazing in the playoffs last year for us and hes damn near impossible to guard

It should honestly be Julius and i dont know what he did or didnt do during the offseason
 
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