Before I start, a very important scripture. 2 tim 3:16
All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
This means that from front to back, the bible has to be taken in context with the theme of the book. That implies consistency from begining to end. So any doctrine you teach must be consistant with what the bible teaches.
Now then, onto you.
Im in error, but
you are the one who simply cannot comprehend that if God says he made this earth to be inhabited, but destroys it, then his purpose for this earth was not fulfilled. Why?
BECAUSE HE DESTROYED IT! God says all his purposes must come to fruition. (isa 55:11)
And tell me, how can I misuse this?
Prov 2: 21 For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. 22 As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.
What is to misinterpret?? It's fairly simple, Jehovah plans to rid
THIS earth of wicked people. What tells me that? 22
As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth; and as for the treacherous, they will be torn away from it.
What tells me that it will be
THIS EARTH these things will happen on? It's fairly simple, Jehovah plans to keep the righteous ones left over after he tears the wicked away. What tells me that?
21 For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it.
If one is using just common sense, they would realize this cannot apply to a NEWLY BUILT EARTH, because the NEW EARTH is said to not even have 1 unrighteous person. So then, how could the wicked, or treacherous be torn away as 22 says?
THERE WAS NO UNRIGHTEOUS ONES TO BEGIN WITH!
So clearly for proverbs to be applied, it can only be applied to an earth that holds wicked people. And that is
THIS ONE.
I will answer all your questions and statements...
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So you believe you will be ruling with Christ for the 1000 years?
Jesus said this once
john 17:14 I have given your word to them, but the world has hated them, because they are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.
15 “I request you, not to take them out of the world, but to watch over them because of the wicked one. 16 They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world..
When Jesus was ressurected, who saw him, his disciples, or the rest of the world?
His disciples!
So even though his disciples are in the world, as far as Jesus was concerned they were no part of it. Therefore when Jesus said the world would see him nomore, logic has it he means the world outside of those who truly are his followers.
John 17: 3 This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
This is Jesus prayer, he says everlasting life, (salvation) depends on our taking in Knowledge of His Father, whom he calls THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND of himself.
So you can't even gain life unless you recognize the true God first, then Jesus. Jesus did, and he was not talking to himself. DO YOU RECOGNIZE JEHOVAH AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AS JESUS DOES HERE?
Secondly, how can you stand here and tell me you expect a rapture, which is a ressurection, but in the next breath say you have an immortal soul that survives life after your flesh dies? To be resurrected you have to DIE. ALL OF YOU. If some part of you lives, then that makes a resurrection null and void, because YOU'RE NOT DEAD.
True story.
Im being picky? That is scary that you said that really. For you of course. His disciples seemed to care a lot. It was a big issue to them. So much so they asked him what the sign would be of his return! (mat 24:3). Why would Jesus NOT tell them you will see me plain as day, instead of telling them what SIGN to look for? How does that agree with what you're saying? Jesus tells his disciples what sign to look for, you say that's nit picky, it does not matter, we will see him. Thinking the way you are, would you not then likely MISS THE SIGN THAT JESUS SAID WOULD SIGNIFY HIS RETURN??????????????????????????????????
I notice you did not mention the DEAL EVERY LIVING THING A BLOW PART at all. Convenient really.Answer this yes or no please. If he destroys the earth as you say he will, would he NOT BE DEALING EVERY LIVING THING A BLOW ON ACCOUNT OF MAN?
Ok, but was this verse speaking of a new earth, or the current earth? Context would say current earth. Not one God builds from Scratch.
This has everything to do with the destruction of earth. If people are going to be left over in it after he tears the wicked away, than that means he is not going to literally destroy the earth! Sounds like he is evicting unruly tenants instead.
There are so many things wrong with that I wont even bother to break them all down. I'll just reply with this.
Collosians 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;
Creation Means you have a CREATOR. You wanna logically tell me how Jesus can be called a creation in the bible, but you reason he is God?
How bout Jesus own words here in revelation 3:14 “And to the angel of the congregation in La·o·di·ce´a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,
This appears to imply that when God began to create, it started with Jesus. Unless you are willing to try and sell me on God being created?????
More from Jesus own mouth
John 17:17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’”
Wow, Jesus has a God?
I see you left this verse out when you quoted Hebrews 1
1:. 9 You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you with [the] oil of exultation more than your partners.”
Now people Other than Jehovah being refered to as God happens more than once in the bible. So the fact that Jesus is said to be a God does not mean he is almighty God. He called Satan the God of this system once (2 cor 4:4)
But that Hebrew verse is special for another reason. If Jesus is said to be a God, but also has a God who exulted him more than his partners, how Could a trinity setting even stand there? To be exulted means to be placed above. It says his God exulted him above his partners... His partners are God the father and the holy spirit correct? At least in a trinity setting it would be. So is that correct?
No, the context has it speaking of angels, so the logic would indicate that Jesus has been exulted above the angels, who are his partners (or fellow angels)
And lastly, Hebrew 9: 24 For Christ entered, not into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God for us
Wait a second.. I thought Jesus IS GOD? WHY IS JESUS IN HEAVEN APPEARING BEFORE THE PERSON OF GOD????? IS HE NOT PART OF THAT PERSON ACCORDING TO YOU?????
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whom do the prophecies about restoration of Israel have fulfillment today?
Gal. 6:15, 16: "Neither is circumcision anything nor is uncircumcision, but a new creation is something. And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of God." (So "the Israel of God" is no longer determined on the basis of conforming to the requirement laid upon Abraham for all the males of his household to be circumcised. Rather, as stated at Galatians 3:26-29, those who belong to Christ and who are spirit-begotten sons of God "are really Abraham’s seed.")
Jer. 31:31-34: "‘Look! There are days coming,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘and I will conclude with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant . . . And they will no more teach each one his companion and each one his brother, saying, "Know Jehovah!" for they will all of them know me, from the least one of them even to the greatest one of them,’ is the utterance of Jehovah." (That new covenant was made, not with the nation of natural Israel, but with the loyal followers of Jesus Christ to whom hope of heavenly life was being extended. When instituting the Memorial of his death, Jesus gave them a cup of wine and said: "This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood." [1 Cor. 11:25])
Rev. 7:4: "I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel." (But in the verses that follow, mention is made of "the tribe of Levi" and "the tribe of Joseph." These were not included in lists of the 12 tribes of natural Israel. Interestingly, while it is said that people would be "sealed out of every tribe," the tribes of Dan and Ephraim are not mentioned. [Compare Numbers 1:4-16.] Reference must here be made to the spiritual Israel of God, to those whom Revelation 14:1-3 shows will share with Christ in his heavenly Kingdom.)
Heb. 12:22: "You have approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels." (Thus it is not to earthly Jerusalem but to "heavenly Jerusalem" that true Christians look for fulfillment of the promises of God.)
Ok, it's as I suspected, you are a Christian, who ignores what Christ says. He says their house is abandoned to them. You are saying, no it's not.
Actually, neither the "group" nor myself have it wrong at all. It says in signs for a reason. You choose to ignore that, so be it. You shouldn't though.
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