KNICKSONLINE I ask you is it Time to Trade Amare?

[Hayato]

He has 60 million dollars on his contract. His value is low.

I would try to move him for Elton Brand or Drew Gooden. If nobody wants him, send him to the D League and waive him before the trade deadline next season.

I have no respect for this bum. He's all talk, no action. He had an opportunity to force a game 6, but he decided to punch a fire extinguisher and take game 3 off. Then he plays zero defense on Chris Bosh in game 5.

Gay R Myth and Amarknee Stoudretire need to go.

Mike Woodson is also stupid for giving these bums so many minutes. I think Woodson deserves one more chance, but if the Knicks can't force a game 7 next year, he has got to go.

oh now amare couldve WON us a game against the heat? after all of u said him being on the floor with melo alone is a huge problem, youre now pinning an entire loss on amare not showing up? i thought he was a detriment to us anyway because him and melo cant coexist?

 

[KingCharles34]

if i dont like it dont post? what do u want only the people who agree with you to post?

i just think the ridiculous heat given to amare is in fact ridiculous. i already mentioned all the ineptness that transpired this year with amare and the knicks as a whole and he didnt even play that bad. and melo was still poopin in the playoffs with amare on the floor.. with an offseason and a year with no midseason coaching and philosophy changes, and hopefully not as many serious injuries, i strongly believe amare an melo can both do work like they did in game 4.

amare-tyson is more of a concern than amare-melo

Im sayin if your gonna come in here being an opinion hitler then u can get the FOH

What do u want me to do, listen to u and stop posting in my thread? U want me to just drop it? Should i have the same opinions as u? Huh? Yea i thought so

I respect some posters that disagree with me, but i dont respect anyone that says I should just forget about my opinion. You might be right that Amare's not going anywhere, but i have a right to hope we trade him and i have a right to make a thread about why we should trade him especially when its backed up by facts

 

[Newbie]

watch melo in syracuse or denver, he was on the thinner side.. now when they show him running/jogging from behind u notice his big walrus ass.

i think melo wont be a superstar because he DOES NOT make others around him better like lebron does. he's just a pure scorer. thats really it.


and stop disrespecting amare. enough with that bull****. he's staying; no if and's or but's, so drop it.

Hayato: With all respect, it seems you want people to agree with your posts. Perhaps, we can agree to disagree?

if i dont like it dont post? what do u want only the people who agree with you to post?

 

[YuvalNYC]

Nobody is gonna take him either way...

AmarKNEE StoudeFIRE is gonna be a knick for life.

 

[KingCharles34]

Hayato: With all respect, it seems you want people to agree with your posts. Perhaps, we can agree to disagree?

Thank you very much Newbie, sorry about all those porn sites i posted in that other thread. That wasnt very gentleman like of me and I apologize for that. Those women in those videos have no disrespect for themselves and im just as bad for watching them

 

[NYk_Reloaded718]

lol actually i didnt notice your spelling error until i just went back and reread your post. i wasnt talking about your spelling though. u said of course he needs to go, im asking you why does he "of course" need to go?

-______________- what you mean why? lol here's my long list of why

1. Amare's ugly contract is sucking up cap space for other players who will produce more than what he's doing

2. Amare's game does not compliment Carmelo's (not exactly your ideal 1, 2 punch

3. Amare dont play no defense

4. Amare dont rebound

5. Amare is to injury prone to last another 3 years, matter fact i guarantee you the man is down again within 3-4 weeks of next season

6. Amare can barely keep himself in the playoffs

7. Amare's jumper has looked as awful as his defense

8. Im tired of watching him drive right only to lose the ball or get that $hit smacked somewhere

9. He does not make ANYBODY around him better

10. Im tired of hearing him tell the media "we gotta play harder" when he's the main one missing defensive assignments

11. Im tried of hearing him use the word "phenomenal" in every damn sentence when he talks to the media

12. He is to lazy to improve his game...during the off-season
Dwight- Worked with Hakeem Olajuwon (improved post up game)
Lebron- worked with Hakeem Olajuwn (improved post up game)
Amare - worked with.... Fashion designers and soaked his toes in jacuzzies

LAST BUT NOT LEAST

this post season

Amare game 1- 14 points 4 rebounds 5 turnovers

Amare game 5- 9 points 5 rebounds

this man is sucking up cap- space with a 100 mill contract and is putting up Darko Millicic Numbers . matter fact i think Darko would of even did better that. I can go on and on about why the guy "of course" needs to go lol

only a blind man or fool would accept this madness. If the opportunity to get rid of Amare presents itself whether it be through trade of draft picks you TAKE IT, RUN AWAY WITH IT, AND NEVER EVER LOOK BACK

To tell you the truth i'd package Lin, Amare & Fields for Deron who is leaving anyway

Deron
Melo
Chandler

^^^
thats how you start a championship caliber team they all compliment each other, all you have to do is fill in the pieces.

 

[KBlack25]

-______________- what you mean why? lol here's my long list of why



2. Amare's game does not compliment Carmelo's (not exactly your ideal 1, 2 punch

3. Amare dont play no defense



7. Amare's jumper has looked as awful as his defense


9. He does not make ANYBODY around him better

10. Im tired of hearing him tell the media "we gotta play harder" when he's the main one missing defensive assignments

12. He is to lazy to improve his game...during the off-season
Dwight- Worked with Hakeem Olajuwon (improved post up game)
Lebron- worked with Hakeem Olajuwn (improved post up game)
Amare - worked with.... Fashion designers and soaked his toes in jacuzzies

Man you really hate Carmelo Anthony.

 

[KingCharles34]

-______________- what you mean why? lol here's my long list of why

Wow thats some great work Almost Famous...I'd say the posters that feel Carmelo is as bad or almost as pathetic as Stat have some explaining to do.

If i was a detective looking for the worst basketball player on the Knicks (factoring in salaries) instead of looking for the worst criminal, i would say the evidence in this thread strongly suggests Amare is the biggest waste of space and money on the Knicks.

Great work again Almost famous..

 

[Newbie]

Thank you very much Newbie, sorry about all those porn sites i posted in that other thread. That wasnt very gentleman like of me and I apologize for that. Those women in those videos have no disrespect for themselves and im just as bad for watching them

What porn sites? :mrgreen:

Carry on, men! I learned to NOT sign on in public places
so people don't wonder why I'm looking at pictures of naked women! :lol:

P.S. And, we both know you're full of you know what regarding your
last sentence. Hee-hee-hee.

 

[KingCharles34]

^One of the game threads where u said women dont kiss and tell

I said thats not always true

And then I posted the first 10 porn sites that came to mind...

And your suppose to go to school libraries, find some idiot that forgot to sign off their computer, find some porn, leave it on the computer and walk away

 

[NYk_Reloaded718]

Man you really hate Carmelo Anthony.

Im not going to lie, Carmelo is not exactly your cup of tea defensively and can get lazy at times.

The difference between Caremlo and Amare is that for one Carmelo is a flat out more reliable and better player.

Tell me what has Amare done for us this season?

When Melo went down who stepped up? (LIN) stepped up... better yet stepped up big time and brung us back to the 500. mark

When Amare went down who stepped up? (Melo) stepped up played PF and guided us into the playoffs

I ask you again what has Amare done this season?

Melo time and time again has carried the Knicks, whether is be game winners or timely buckets iv'e seen him deliver over and over again... iv'e also seen him brick over and over again. But when you have a team like the knicks who have been injured prone all season..

what are exactly your other options?

who's going to step in and help Melo?

who's going to create for themselves besides JR smith>?

What happens when your other Star player (amare) cant play up to expectations?

I just don't understand how some of you can expect one player by himself to win you a series... What i seen from Melo during this series was diving on the floor to save balls no homo and stepping up to the defensive challenge trying to guard Lebron... then coming down the other end trying to keep this team in the game, when nobody else was delivering.

At least melo earned somewhat of his contract.

Amare played like he was a MLE signed player smh am i right or wrong here?

 

[KBlack25]

Im not going to lie, Carmelo is not exactly your cup of tea defensively and can get lazy at times.

The difference between Caremlo and Amare is that for one Carmelo is a flat out more reliable and better player.

Tell me what has Amare done for us this season?

When Melo went down who stepped up? (LIN) stepped up... better yet stepped up big time and brung us back to the 500. mark

When Amare went down who stepped up? (Melo) stepped up played PF and guided us into the playoffs

I ask you again what has Amare done this season?

Melo time and time again has carried the Knicks, whether is be game winners or timely buckets iv'e seen him deliver over and over again... iv'e also seen him brick over and over again. But when you have a team like the knicks who have been injured prone all season..

what are exactly your other options?

who's going to step in and help Melo?

who's going to create for themselves besides JR smith>?

What happens when your other Star player (amare) cant play up to expectations?

I just don't understand how some of you can expect one player by himself to win you a series... What i seen from Melo during this series was diving on the floor to save balls no homo and stepping up to the defensive challenge trying to guard Lebron... then coming down the other end trying to keep this team in the game, when nobody else was delivering.

At least melo earned somewhat of his contract.

Amare played like he was a MLE signed player smh am i right or wrong here?

Not saying that Amare didn't play bad.

Just that many of your criticisms can be directed at Carmelo also. The issues on this team are plentyfold. Melo has his share too.

 

[NYk_Reloaded718]

Not saying that Amare didn't play bad.

Just that many of your criticisms can be directed at Carmelo also. The issues on this team are plentyfold. Melo has his share too.

I agree 100% Melo has his fair share, We all can agree this is MELO's team now right? but if you had to choose between Carmelo and Amare for who is more Cancer to this Knicks team. Amare wins this debate flat out every time hands down.

Sure i can go on and on about how Melo's Jumper has been inconsistent this season ----------( but to a certain extent) because he did keep us in alot of games this season and he was the reason we won alot of games this season right or wrong? he did step up like a leader in April and take us to the promise land right or wrong? or was that Amare out there doing it?

Sure i can go on and on about how Carmelo and his iso game wont ever win us a championship (but to a certain extent)---------- because that same iso game took him to the western conference finals in Denver and nobody yet has proved they can stop Melo's Isolation and anyone in the league will tell you Carmelo is the best scorer in the NBA... Chuck of all people can has even admitted that and we all know the man hates the knicks

Sure i can go on and on about how Carmelo is not a team player ( but to a certain extent)-----------because those of us who have watched every knick game this season saw Carmelo was willing to pass to the cutting man headed to the basket (fields).... (allies to chandler). If anyone is expecting Carmelo to become Lebron james and be this amazing point forward your kidding yourselves aint happening and never will happen, but to say he's selfish is a bit naive. You see what JR smith did in the playoff? NOW THATS SELFISH

Believe me if Carmelo played as bad as STAT id bash him as well and he'd receive the same criticism, I've seen all the knicks games this season i call it how i see it. (Favorite player or not) if you cant produce you deserve to hear it from the Fans.. it's disappointing when people pay big money to see you play and you suck isn't it? it's disappointing you say expectations are championships and you Fail isn't it?

Alot of people on here i admit were very MELO FRIENDLY, when Melo had that awful start of the season, He deserved a bashing there... but cmon man Stat has been terrible ALL SEASON LONG, i don't even think the games he did good in were good enough! the media and post games just said they were good because they were better than what he previously presented on the court.

When you let a guy like fat a$$ Diaw out play you when your clearly more dominant then... i see something seriously wrong

 

[shemmue0311]

Reality is neither amare or melo are going to be traded, pray we get nash and this expirement will work...PG leadership is what we need we get nash it will work.

 

[REALHEAT]

hmmm. id give it just one full season before they talk trading one of the pieces. The knicks honestly had little to no time to gel. The lockout was a disadvantage to all 30 teams but injuries plagued the knicks. I don't think any big time deals with happen this summer unless Dolan has a retard moment and makes a knee jerk decision. I would wait and give them just 1 more chance to fix the problems. If the issues are ongoing then Amare is the first to go. The big question is who will take his 60 mil contract? He's turning 30 and has chronic back issues.

I know one thing for sure is that both Carmelo and Amare need to put worth more effort on the defensive end.

 

[Cuckoo]

Im sayin if your gonna come in here being an opinion hitler then u can get the FOH

What do u want me to do, listen to u and stop posting in my thread? U want me to just drop it? Should i have the same opinions as u? Huh? Yea i thought so

I respect some posters that disagree with me, but i dont respect anyone that says I should just forget about my opinion. You might be right that Amare's not going anywhere, but i have a right to hope we trade him and i have a right to make a thread about why we should trade him especially when its backed up by facts

He gets riled up when someone even has the slightly notion about trading Stat, not just here, on other threads too. It's healthy to give your opinions and more importantly, respect others as well.

I dont see Dolan paying excess amount in luxury tax in the near future. So with salary cap as our limit, the only way to acquire big name FA is to get rid of one of the big 3; Stat, Melo or Tyson. The fans agreed upon the most is Stat and a logical choice. None has the no-trade clause in his contract. There is nothing wrong by explore all the possibilities. But if we stick with our current 3, we can only 'patch' up our roster.

 

[KingCharles34]

Great post again by Almost famous, I agree with every word u said

Respectable post from Real Heat, I actually respect a Heat fans opinion more then Hayato's. Yo Heat my bad about that neg rep last night, i got some green for u next time around fam

Great, open minded post by Cuckoo. Thats what i respect, no need to argue or shut down others opinions here.

 

[Hayato]

Im sayin if your gonna come in here being an opinion hitler then u can get the FOH

What do u want me to do, listen to u and stop posting in my thread? U want me to just drop it? Should i have the same opinions as u? Huh? Yea i thought so

I respect some posters that disagree with me, but i dont respect anyone that says I should just forget about my opinion. You might be right that Amare's not going anywhere, but i have a right to hope we trade him and i have a right to make a thread about why we should trade him especially when its backed up by facts

i didnt say stop posting. u told me to stop posting in your thread if i dont agree with you.

backed up w facts why we should trade him? one SUBPAR season in a bizarre year and we should trade him? good thing youre not running the knicks.

 

[NYk_Reloaded718]

Thanks @ Starbury, i just dont see how a single one player can be blamed for for things when there are 4 other players on the court.

"MELO SHOOTS" the situation turns into, why doesn't melo pass

"MELO PASSES" the situation turns into, Melo is a loser and failure trade him

I find the poor man in a lose lose situation every time he touches the ball, which is really pathetic because last season the fans were all cheering "WE WANT MELO WE WANT MELO"

Amare on the other hand, got a PASS all season

-1st he Amare was still recovering from his back, he didn't get proper treatment because of the lockout

- Then he was just rusty

- Then it was blame Melo for not getting him involved ( so what happen when Melo did get him involved? He still shot poorly, played zero D, and let players skip to my lou to the basket

- Then it was he needs a pg

- Then it was His brother died (understandable)

- Then it was a bulging disc (understandable)

cmon son the rest is history, i hate how the media acts like MELO is the only player on this team making big money :barf:

 

[KingCharles34]

I was ignoring your hoe tendencies on the 1st page until u said this

watch melo in syracuse or denver, he was on the thinner side.. now when they show him running/jogging from behind u notice his big walrus ass.

i think melo wont be a superstar because he DOES NOT make others around him better like lebron does. he's just a pure scorer. thats really it.


and stop disrespecting amare. enough with that bull****. he's staying; no if and's or but's, so drop it.

And then I proceeded to say

Go where doggie?

All I want is opinions, Im not here entertain kids like u telling me to drop it. This is a forum, im here to share my thoughts and opinions. If u dont like them then dont post in my thread

Followed by what u just said

i didnt say stop posting. u told me to stop posting in your thread if i dont agree with you.

backed up w facts why we should trade him? one SUBPAR season in a bizarre year and we should trade him? good thing youre not running the knicks.

So if u didnt tell me to stop posting, whats this?

enough with that bull****. he's staying; no if and's or but's, so drop it.

All im saying bro if u gonna come in my thread dont act like your opinions are fact and try to boot me outta my own thread. I have several facts on the 1st page and Almost famous has brought even more facts. You never replied to any of them, all u said is that the Knicks wont trade him so I should give up and stop posting about what I think the Knicks should do with Amare. While i even agreed with u that its unlikely he gets traded, I still do have a right to make this thread and to state the reasons as to why i think the Knicks would be better off without Amare.