Knicks fan my ass....
Allen..... at this point I am not even sure if it worth replying to anything you say. But for the sake of intellect, I will make an attempt.
We play sports to WIN. We do not play to finish second. We do not play to make it to the conference finals. We play for the ring. Anything else outside of that SHOULD NOT be celebrated. When you have anything less than team success, then you have to look at the individuals who comprise that team. You want to make sure you have players who are either developing or are playing hard. If you lack this, you make changes. There is NO question that Steph plays to his ability. There is no question that Eddie Curry can get better, and should get better. There is no question that Channing Frye has a serious upside. Am I suggesting that he will be Amare Stoudamire? No. But I dont know. What I can tell you, is that the Kevin Garnett as we know him today, was definitely not as good when Marbury was there. But Allen, thats because it takes time to develop your game.
This Jason Kidd comparison is ridiculous now. The cast of characters Marbury played with in NJ is nothing like what Kidd has. Kenyon Martin was a beast in NJ with Kidd. Richard Jefferson was explosive. Who did Marbury have? Kendall Gill? Keith Van Horn? While we are on the subject of Jason Kidd, again someone tell me what he accomplished of note? If winning is the object of the game, what makes Jason Kidd SO MUCH better than Marbury.
This entry is getting long....so I am not sure I should even address the Nash issue. There is NO way on God's green earth, that Nash should have beat out LeBron, Wade, and frankly a handful of other players this year. Kobe was considerably more important to his team. Lebron IS the Cavs, Wade delivered a title (albeit the MVP award is announced before the finals) and Nash was good, I would not take anything away from him. But there were far more worthy candidates this year. Barely getting by the Lakers doesnt help his case. He has a much better supporting cast than Marbury so he should have been able to do much more.
Even if you dont like my arguments Allen and still say that these two point guards are better, then that makes Steph third best in a close vote of point guards who never won a damn thing. So...what does that mean? It means you are all making moot points. Since none can be considered a winner just yet, you take the most talented guy. In this case IT IS Marbury - like it or not.
The one thing that is clear is that Allen is NOT a knicks fan. So I have been searching my brain to try and figure out who he is actually a fan of. The NBA does not have Red Sox/Yankees type rivalries. However, to have this kind of disdain for the Knicks can only suggest one thing. Allen is a Nets fan. The jealousy is showing, the inferiority complex is showing. He is definitely a Nets fan.