Constructive Critique On Mozgov's Game.
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It was worth a look, kind of confirms what I thought of Mozgov, big man that moves well for his size, shot blocker but with few other offensive skills such as a post game or jump shot since we didn't see that in his videos. He is a work in progress that could use a good big man coach, not sure the Knicks are the right team for him with what I saw with Jordan Hill. In Houston, Hill is getting a ton of coaching, can't say I heard that when Hill was in NY.
Also, very interesting that he says the Knicks were the best PnR team in the NBA last year, I would have bet the Suns with Steve Nash by a mile or Nelson and Howard. Who would have thought Duhon and Lee by a mile, I hope it's the system and not the players because if it is Felton and Amare should do very well with PnR this year.
Also, very interesting that he says the Knicks were the best PnR team in the NBA last year, I would have bet the Suns with Steve Nash by a mile or Nelson and Howard. Who would have thought Duhon and Lee by a mile, I hope it's the system and not the players because if it is Felton and Amare should do very well with PnR this year.
portega1968
El Cacique
8s, nice find, thanks.
Although the author says his defensive weaknesses wont be an issue with the Knicks, he needs to fix them if he wants to stick long term in the NBA and if he does that then we may have found a center for many years.
Although the author says his defensive weaknesses wont be an issue with the Knicks, he needs to fix them if he wants to stick long term in the NBA and if he does that then we may have found a center for many years.
portega1968
El Cacique
Watching Puerto Rico vs Russia at the FIBA tourney. Mozgov not a starter and he definitely doesn't defend too good the PnR and got beat to the hoop a couple of times by Barea and Arroyo, but he definitely screens and rolls to the rim very nicely and will no doubt give us some quality minutes on offense next season. If he can get some good coaching, he can eventually be a very good center.
very good analysis.
He is a pick and roll specialist, which is the play the Knicks specialize in so a perfect fit he is. But he is so much of a D'Antoni player I am worried. He is a dumb center that just does good on reaction and not thought process. Like Wilson Chandler, has talent and is good but can't think like a pro.
Anyway I see Mozgov getting minutes from the start maybe at a few per game and then evenually being a role player since Turiaf won't always have the stamina and/or any big man in foul trouble is were Mozgov comes in.
Mozgov will be the 10th man
p0nder
Starter
Good analysis, mozgov will be an effective backup C for us this season. And with some work in the video booth and lots of coaching he could turn into a starter by the end of the year, with STAT at the 4. would really like to see his help defense improve. I think he will just get better with time.
The truth is ..... all Mozgov highlight videos show he is a NBA project.
Mozgov is a big strong body in the paint which will need a bigman coach on the
side line to guide him for the next two seasons.
I'd rather kept Jordan Hill (and resign Earl Barron).
The Wolves headcoach Rambis, would rather have Darko at center than Jefferson. Funny right?
Here is something more funny, Dantoni DNP Russian Darko throughout the 2009-10 season for
an inferior comment Darko made about the Italy team when Darko was playing proffesional ball
in Russia.
Donnie Walsh signing a Russian center Mozgov for Dantoni's 2010-11 roster for what reason?
to sit in Dantoni's dog-house? or for Dantoni to prove he is not prejudice by giving a raw
Mozgov playingtime? It's just to funny for comment. I will compare Mozgov vs
Darko/Hill/and Barron this season.
Mozgov is a big strong body in the paint which will need a bigman coach on the
side line to guide him for the next two seasons.
I'd rather kept Jordan Hill (and resign Earl Barron).
The Wolves headcoach Rambis, would rather have Darko at center than Jefferson. Funny right?
Here is something more funny, Dantoni DNP Russian Darko throughout the 2009-10 season for
an inferior comment Darko made about the Italy team when Darko was playing proffesional ball
in Russia.
Donnie Walsh signing a Russian center Mozgov for Dantoni's 2010-11 roster for what reason?
to sit in Dantoni's dog-house? or for Dantoni to prove he is not prejudice by giving a raw
Mozgov playingtime? It's just to funny for comment. I will compare Mozgov vs
Darko/Hill/and Barron this season.
Every time you shed tears about Darko Milicic (let me repeat that...DARKO MILICIC) not playing, not only do you sound more and more like a complete and utter moron, an angel loses its wings and a puppy is shot.
DARKO MILICIC IS NOT, HAS NOT, WILL NEVER BE A QUALITY NBA STARTER. THE REASON JEFFERSON WAS TRADED, YOU ****ING MORON, IS BECAUSE THE GM KAHN THOUGHT THERE WAS NO WAY LOVE AND JEFFERSON COULD CO-EXIST, NOT BECAUSE THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE DARKO START OVER JEFFERSON.
I've watched you cry on here about the following:
1) Darko did not get playing time (really? You are mad at D'Antoni for not playing a guy who never saw time until he went to a place where they actively tried (and successfully) just traded their best player for a pile of rocks)
2) Eddy Curry is one of our four NBA-starter-level players
3) D'Antoni is not good with young talent (some guy named Amare that I've heard of did well with him when he was a teenager)
4) We have to sign Earl Barron or we are doomed
This season we got tough interior defender Ronnie Turiaf. We drafted Jordan. We signed Mozgov. We have to keep Curry on the books or burn $11 million. I expect Turiaf to start, and if he can give 28-30 minutes a night, if Jordan, Mozgov or hell even Curry can step up and be even serviceable we will be okay. And you want to sign a FIFTH center?
You are blind in your hate for D'Antoni...maybe if you decided to not just hate anything and everything D'Antoni and Walsh have ever done, you would find a second or two to not be totally negative about your team.
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portega1968
El Cacique
:wtf:
Kiya, you always want to play the Devil's Advocate... defending second-tier players like Balkman and Jordan Hill like they are the future of the NBA and then trashing talented guys like Gallo and Mozgov, and just berating D'Antoni because he supposedly hates Russians? and he hates Russians cause Darko (a serbian) talked trash about Italy?
SMH
Darko is good for a backup role, 20min max, in a halfcourt offense. Guy cant run the floor at all and his shooting beyond 18ft sucks. Rambis thinks he can make Darko a Bogut but he will see that Darko is plain bogus and he will prove it again in Minny this year.
No doubt Mozgov is a project. He needs to learn how to defend the pick and roll and not get beat off the dribble. But he's a better choice for the Knicks SSOL than Darko. and better yet, Mozgov wasnt picked ahead of Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, etc... so, he doesnt have the ego of Darko.
Why is he better for the Knicks?
1. Positive attitude
2. Runs the floor (Darko couldnt do 40 meters in 20 seconds)
3. Is good at the pick and roll
Jordan Hill was a mistake, a big one I must say, getting picked ahead of Jennings. He will prove to be another Balkman down the road, a good bench player but no more than that.
Earl Barron? jajajajjaa... yeah right.
LJ4ptplay
Starter
You've got issues dude.
nuckles2k2
Superstar
I see we agree on at least one thing.
u & LJ4 I expected to understand the Mozgov situation
Excuse meeeeee!
Balkman/Jordan Hill are not 2nd tier players they are defensive-role players
u have on the bench for rebounds/blocks/picks/and fouls.
u remind me of all the fans that considered Rodman and Horace Grant as
second tier players b/c they were not scorers.
sit back n chill (Portega).
When coach JVG quit on the Knicks alot of our coaching staff left along with
him. Which is the reason why we hired Herb Williams as out assistant
headcoach when his player contract ended.
We had the poorest-coaching staff in the NBA for a decade.
When watching a USA Olympic game/practice u are reminded constantly by
the sports announcers "Dantoni is the team offensive coach".
Whats strange about this is all the other coaches on the Olympic team has
not been single-out as the defensive coach by the sports announcers. WHY?
We have alot of young-players on our 2010-11 roster, and Turiaf is one of them.
Turiaf is showing good leadership since becoming a Knick which is all good.
Turiaf was in the same draft class as Frye/Lee, yet Turiaf performance on
court was never as high as Frye/Lee each season in the NBA.
I'm mentioning this b/c Turiaf was around a better coaching-staff than what
the Knicks had since the departure of coach JVG.
Who is our Big-Man coach?
Who is our defensive coach?
All of our players with less NBA experience, younger than Turiaf (9 in total)
will need a decent bigman coach/defensive coach to help develope their
skills/talents/and team position on design plays on offense/defense.
u will not have a discipline roster of players when u have a
short coaching staff which is clueless in many areas of the
game.
Excuse meeeeee!
Balkman/Jordan Hill are not 2nd tier players they are defensive-role players
u have on the bench for rebounds/blocks/picks/and fouls.
u remind me of all the fans that considered Rodman and Horace Grant as
second tier players b/c they were not scorers.
sit back n chill (Portega).
When coach JVG quit on the Knicks alot of our coaching staff left along with
him. Which is the reason why we hired Herb Williams as out assistant
headcoach when his player contract ended.
We had the poorest-coaching staff in the NBA for a decade.
When watching a USA Olympic game/practice u are reminded constantly by
the sports announcers "Dantoni is the team offensive coach".
Whats strange about this is all the other coaches on the Olympic team has
not been single-out as the defensive coach by the sports announcers. WHY?
We have alot of young-players on our 2010-11 roster, and Turiaf is one of them.
Turiaf is showing good leadership since becoming a Knick which is all good.
Turiaf was in the same draft class as Frye/Lee, yet Turiaf performance on
court was never as high as Frye/Lee each season in the NBA.
I'm mentioning this b/c Turiaf was around a better coaching-staff than what
the Knicks had since the departure of coach JVG.
Who is our Big-Man coach?
Who is our defensive coach?
All of our players with less NBA experience, younger than Turiaf (9 in total)
will need a decent bigman coach/defensive coach to help develope their
skills/talents/and team position on design plays on offense/defense.
u will not have a discipline roster of players when u have a
short coaching staff which is clueless in many areas of the
game.
portega1968
El Cacique
comparing Balkman and Hill with Rodman and Horace Grant?
I stopped reading the rest after that...
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